Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I remember a post by IM in which I interpreted him as saying that he feared people had misunderstood him to be saying that MHG would face criminal consequences, so he came on and clarified that he was saying MHG might face consequences for her role, although not criminal ones.

Yes…so where is the previous post detailing what people misunderstood? News flash: it’s not there…

[trubandloki]

@Sdel

Yes…so where is the previous post detailing what people misunderstood? News flash: it’s not there…

I could not find it either. So it is hiding from both of us.

[MorganSercu]

@trubandloki

I wonder if the guy who records everything has some of his own secret recordings stashed away somewhere to use for his own benefit?

In the cloud, of course.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I seem to remember that pretty much every post of IMs was QFPed in that era. If you go back and look at his posts in those few days, were there any that we’re not QFPed?

No they weren’t.

OK, if there were no posts of IMs that escaped being QFPed, how did he manage to delete the post without leaving a record?

[ohnoO]

@KurPlexed

I didn’t know exploding bullets existed until now and now I have a search on my phone for both!

That could be an interesting conversation!

“Well, sir, there’s this farm in NJ. It’s a horse farm. Back in 2019 it was owned by different people than the current owners. The current owners have nothing to do with this story.

“It was August 7, 2019…………

[trubandloki]

Oh please…You have been around enough to know that answer.

If a post is deleted is leaves something for 24 hours and then it vanishes.

See post below that I posted and deleted.

[hut-ho78]

@jvanrens

@hut-ho78

@KurPlexed

Another fishy thing is the search for hollow points

The search was for “exploding” bullets not hollow points.

Because that’s a better thing?

Maybe it was to understand some dumb sm discussion similar to this one.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I remember a post by IM in which I interpreted him as saying that he feared people had misunderstood him to be saying that MHG would face criminal consequences, so he came on and clarified that he was saying MHG might face consequences for her role, although not criminal ones.

Yes…so where is the previous post detailing what people misunderstood? News flash: it’s not there…

I’m not saying he made a post “detailing” what people misunderstood, just a post in which he clarified that he was not saying that he expected criminal charges against MHG, just that he thought there would be consequences of some form which led him to think it was unlikely she would ever represent the US in international competition.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@BrendaJane

unlikely.
When you do range time, you shoot.
unlike riding when you end on a high note, you don’t just quit and leave 3 bullets in the clip.

As I said, an empty gun gets you hurt!
This is bugging me, has been bugging me, and will continue to do so! It’s not sensical at all!
RC would have reloaded for the trip because without bullets a gun is a paperweight.
Or a blunt object at best.

Without sounding snarky…seriously, I’m curious what difference it makes at this point? I truly, holy heck understand the extreme desire to comprehend exactly what happened that day and even the two days leading up to “that day”, but we will never, ever know what happened. I keep going back to the Kennedy assassination and the witnesses who swear they saw smoke and think they heard shots from “the grassy knoll” and after years and years of speculation and research we are no further in solving the actual facts of that event, so we have to choke and move forward.

Heck, I’m still hung up on Heymer saying he search Michael and didn’t find anything but the 2nd cop searched him later and found the full magazine. Again, without forensic testing done on anything, we all speculate on who did what. It’s crazy.

To me the absolute irony would be the ultra slim chance Lauren is telling the truth about the shooting but no one will believe her because of her propensity to lie, but moreso because the cops failed everyone, and I mean EVERYONE with their incompetence to perform the basic, elementary evidence tests.

Those of a certain age will remember Sgt Friday saying, “Just the facts, ma’am, just the facts”. We don’t have or know the facts of anything except the reams of documents.

I believe her and Rob. I don’t expect the details to be perfect. Too much trauma.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

Oh please…You have been around enough to know that answer.

If a post is deleted is leaves something for 24 hours and then it vanishes.

See post below that I posted and deleted.

Yes, the original post disappears, but if it has been quoted for posterity, as all IMs posts were, the QFPed version would remain.

[ohnoO]

@3PonyFarm

On the diagram of the scene, does anyone know what the odd shaped item is on the drivers side of the dually truck? I wasn’t able to read the label.

I haven’t seen the diagram in a while, but there was something stacked on a pallet that was wrapped in white plastic—tile maybe—that was on the patio close to the driver’s side door of the dually. Is that what you saw? Or was it something on the truck?

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

I do like to get around!!

Remember when I sarcastically posted thousands and thousands of posts ago that I was hiding in the back of Barisone’s dually and saw it all happen and Lauren had a complete conniption fit for days because she misread the post and thought I was serious!!! That was a real hoot! It really is a shame I haven’t done everything I’m accused of doing!

Before everyone gets their undies twisted (is that phrase flaggable?) I haven’t spoken to MHG in many YEARS!

Except you posted that you ran into her not long ago. Which is it? Have you seen her recently or not? Today you haven’t/not long ago you have/friends of the family/all from North Carolina.

[ekat]

@3PonyFarm

I am not understanding how the process works. Are both sides present with the mediator or do they meet separately? Does the mediator propose a resolution and both sides would have to agree to it or else it does go to trial? I am guessing that the victim makes a claim for her injuries and his claim is for trial expenses maybe defamation?

Mediation doesn’t typically happen in a case like this. Typically, it’s used for simpler disputes. For example, two parents both want the kids for Christmas. They go in with a mediator, each one lays out why they want the kids for Christmas and the mediator helps them come to some sort of compromise.

There’s been no order for mediation in this case (yet). I think the confusion comes because there’s a case management conference scheduled for early October that is set in front of a “judge mediator” instead of the judge of record on this case.

The purpose of the hearing is “ a schedule for the completion of expert discovery will be set.”

Does that help?

[3PonyFarm]

That was probably it. Thank you. Do you remember anything said about a trash receptacle in the area? Unless they used one at the barn I was surprised that nothing was mentioned about one IIRC.
I would have thought a construction area would have had one but maybe not.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

[3PonyFarm]

Yes! Thank you!

[hut-ho78]

@jvanrens

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK reported MB to SS for bullying prior to the shooting.

Reporting someone to SS doesn’t result in child services showing up to check out the situation. She reported more than that because she wasn’t getting the response she wanted for her first complaint.

How would you know? She said she called to report bullying and during the conversation was asked if minor children were onsite.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Except you posted that you ran into her not long ago. Which is it? Have you seen her recently or not? Today you haven’t/not long ago you have/friends of the family/all from North Carolina.

Last I checked, seeing someone is not the same as talking to them… right?

I see lots of people at the grocery store and I intentionally avoid them just so I do not have to talk to them.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

My point was directed at posters who are claiming LK “is trying to ruin MHG”. Unless they have evidence of concrete steps LK is currently taking to “attempt to ruin MHG”, it’s just a nasty, baseless smear.

IM had to walk back that they said there would be criminal consequences for MHG. The funny thing is, there is no previous post in record for which to make that statement from. In order to have to walk it back, IM had to have said something very strong about MHG and her consequences. So, either IM deleted the comment that so many of us remember seeing (hmm…seems familiar) or IM said it as someone else……(who may have also deleted such comments)

IM only said that when all the facts were out and tapes etc that MHG would look very bad. So far, nothing has happened to do that. He never said anyone was planning on ruining MHG. He said her actions reflected badly. Nothing has come out to show that.

Now plotting to get someone to leave a premise and talking about “getting rid of her” or other statements could sound very innocent and may have been meant innocently but after being shot, could appear very sinister. I don’t blame LK or anyone affiliated with LK to see comments in the worst light.

[ekat]

@3PonyFarm

Yes! Thank you!

You’re welcome!