She wasn’t on trial. The defense made her out to be the villain to get sympathy for the defendant.
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I fired off an email to the reporter (who’s contact information is easily found with a quick google search), but I made a mistake. I emailed after reading it once, reading it a second time I would have added more.
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MB under NO circumstance would be committed for life, his evaluations would be ongoing if he is held after May 17. There would be mandatory check ins to see his progress.
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Thanks.
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Agree. There is no mandatory release date though, just mandatory evaluations. He may be out at the first hearing, soon after, or not ever released. We don’t know.
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I know. She was.
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I can’t figure out if you are deliberately being obtuse, or you’re just shooting off your typing fingers about stuff without giving it any thought. A character witness doesn’t testify to the veracity of what a person has said during the trial, but to the person’s character in general, including BUT NOT LIMITED TO truthfulness.
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Sometimes villains get shot.
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I remember you. “Everyone knew and just looked the other way.”
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I agree she wasn’t on trial. However, correction: the defense presented evidence of her own behaviors and how they contributed to Barisone’s state of mind. Her own actions may have led some to believe her to be a villain, but they are also what experts testified drove him to his breaking point into insanity. Whether people believe she is the villain or not is up to them, not the defense.
Further, she had literally plotted to “finish the bastard” as was testified. I might add that she had both formally and informally been asked to leave but refused to go and according to testimony it had little to do with logistics, but to do with her being satisfied with such arrangements. And I suspect also to do with her wanting to “finish the bastard”. Does that make her a villain? I’ll let you chew on that.
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It is not becoming how many of you are ok with with violence.
USEF code of conduct. Ambassador of the sport.
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Send this to SafeSport
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Yes they do & did.
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Well, what about witnesses to the bullying she suggests she suffered?
I’m still hung up on the fact that JK was supposed to testify, but didn’t. Would the jurors be aware of that?
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No, you are not alone - and I am a nobody too. Not an “up and coming” dressage rider like LK. Not a BNT. Just someone able to take a step back and watch this all unfurl… and watch LK present herself as someone I would not care to interact with. My very bad personal experience with an LK type showed me that they do not care about anyone besides themselves… that they feel everyone should bow down to them - or owes them something… that they are smarter than the rest of us peons… and that they will take no prisoners in their vengeful actions. We had our own version of Finish the Bastard here.
Watching/reading as people make excuses for that kind of predatory behavior… gloss over the nastiness… overlook the effect that has on everyone around that person… just makes me sad.
Maybe if some of you who continue to talk in circles to re-re-hash minor points and ignore and excuse bad behavior had stood here in my paddock boots… and watched a large, carefree, happy barn of supportive boarders and staff be torn apart by one person’s NPD and need to control and bully… and had exhausted every possible way available of trying to fix that crumbling situation at the time, you may have a somewhat different perspective. My sick coworker was bullied relentlessly - and with glee. I have ZERO doubts that the behavior of our version of LK hastened my coworker’s death. It may not have caused it - but it made her last few months hell.
I look back on that time as if I am looking through the smudged lens of a telescope. It seems so unbelievable now - but we did finally break through to the BO, expose every malicious web TBFH had woven, and got her tossed out of there along with her hubby and adoring groupies, who had no idea of what was really going on. They just believed what TBFH told them. It took a long time to pick up the pieces after that - and TBFH still fires occasional nasty salvos from a distance…
Lifestyles of the rich and infamous. I can only imagine what it must be like to never have to worry about bills or the future, having nice dressage horses, not living from paycheck to paycheck… counting numbers carefully and planning accordingly.
But then, I am just a barn & breeding manager, midwife, stall cleaner etc. 
Not much $$$$$$ or fame in that!
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Ok. Some basic reading about people found to be NGI in relation to given crimes reveals that duration of commitment has a GREAT DEAL to do with what their particular psychiatric diagnosis was, whether they are willing to participate in a given treatment plan, and whether there is evidence that their psychiatric condition is in remission, and thus, they no longer pose a risk to society if released.
It’s important to realize that other people who are found to be NGI often suffer from VERY difficult to treat/manage conditions like paranoid schizophrenia and certain personality disorders. Or combinations of conditions…
In the article that Hut-Ho linked about a young man incarcerated for over 20 years in a NY facility? Well… part of his diagnosis was that he had anti-social personality disorder. That’s another way of saying he was diagnosed to be a sociopath. Sooooo… it makes sense they didn’t release him, given that diagnosis.
According to testimony presented at trial, MB had a dual diagnosis of:
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A delusional disorder of the persecutory type. Dr. Simring testified that the disorder was greatly exacerbated by environmental factors (stress) pertaining to the LK situation, and the visit of the DCPP worker on 08/07/19 was a triggering event for a full blown psychotic break.
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Depressive disorder. This is a mood disorder, which is highly treatable. MB has a long history of being willing to pursue treatment for this issue.
Soooo… the key issue is how MB is doing now with respect to his delusional disorder, and how he responds to treatment. Is he in remission already? Or is he still completely fixated on LK, and of the belief that she poses a mortal threat to MHG and MHGs children?
Also, it’s worth noting that his particular psychiatric disorder is much more isolated in terms of posing a public safety risk, than something like paranoid schizophrenia. He is not delusional in general… and the cause of the psychotic break was very much linked to a specific environmental stress. His delusions very much focused upon LK, and the lethal risk he believed that she posed to him, MHG, and MHGs children. There is no history that MB suffered a persecutory delusional disorder related to anyone other than LK, nor is there a history that he has been violent before. So… it might very well be possible to release him quite quickly to a less restrictive environment if:
A. There are clear indications the disorder is in remission, and he is no longer psychotic.
B. He is amenable to intensive treatment and monitoring, including routine cognitive therapy and taking medication
C. There is an order of protection in place separating him from LK
Anyway… I’m not a psych expert… but I have experience with two family members being committed for inpatient psychiatric treatment before… both voluntarily and involuntarily… because they posed a severe risk to themselves or another. Bottom line… a great deal depends upon the underlying diagnosis, whether the patient has stabilized, and the patient’s willingness to fully embrace a given treatment plan.
If anyone wants to read more about delusional disorders, types, contributing factors, and treatment… I found this link from Cleveland Clinic, and thought it was quite good.
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder
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“The picture of LK with surgical cuts under her arm from front to back and sliced open from stem to stern was not allowed as prejudicial”
Just want to point out that is typical and happens often.
Slightly off-topic, many years ago, I worked on a homicide case where the victim was buried and it took cadaver dogs to find her. When it came to identifying her, there were no clothes, no possessions, no nothing except her very unique tattoos. It was my job to go through hundreds of pictures to find the absolute least “prejudicial” photo of the tattoos that were used to identify her to enter into evidence.
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I think it would be best for someone who is actively involved in the horse world to forward this to SafeSport, no?..but I’d be more than happy to 
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They did not have to make her out to be a villain when she has embraced that role and bragged about how fierce and formidable she was for years. Her own words all over SM. Her own actions.
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I’m not sure what you mean by formally. He never filed the eviction. After filing there is a 3 day emergency time to get out or a 30 day time to get out. There was a 10 day time as well but I am not sure what conditions that held.
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