Well said. And that brings us back to NJ’s language:
“ A defendant may be dangerous in only certain types of situations or in connection with relationships with certain individuals. An evaluation of dangerousness in such cases must take into account the likelihood that defendant will be exposed to such situations or come into contact with such individuals”
That sounds like a horrendous task. Thank you for your care in your job.
What?! Nobody here says it’s okay she got shot. And I haven’t seen anyone say in a long time that she had it coming.
I can’t speak for anyone else, but what I have been saying since the trial brought to light the how far she went is that I can see how her plotting and scheming and lying and threatening could reasonably lead someone with a mental illness to snap. And she apparently engaged in this behavior with glee.
Do I believe MB shot her? Yes. Do I believe that was a reasonable course of action to take? Not by a long shot. Do I believe - beyond a reasonable doubt - that he did so as the events were described by her and RG? Nope. Do I believe he should have been found Guilty? Nope. Do I believe the verdict was just and understandable? Yep. None of these statements mean I condone violence.
Do you only read my posts? Yes people have said that and recommended other violence.
Yes, she was shot. Yes, gun violence is very bad. From the evidence from MB’s trial, I personally have no idea what happened and exactly HOW she was shot. Whether he just cut loose spraying bullets or whether there was a struggle. Thanks to the varied stories from the victim and her BF, no story from MB and the inept police department I don’t think we know the real story and feel the verdict was just.
Susan
Disagree.
They didn’t just look away. I’m sure the people who saw MB disintegrate felt helpless. Every avenue that was attempted hit a dead end. Call 911 to the police multiple times? Nada. Get help from your attorney? Too little, too late. Security guards? Could essentially only report the crazies running around in the dark.
He was falling into the rabbit hole, and things had gone far enough along that they couldn’t reach him. Note the testimony of his rider/attorney friend.
I can’t understand why you have so little sympathy or empathy for this poor man.
There but for the grace of Dog… etc. I would say put yourself in his place, but I don’t think you want to do that.
C’est la vie.
I would call the email to her, her father and her attorney (IIRC) as well as the notice that he intended to file eviction paperwork, as well as the ongoing negotiations between lawyers “formal”. I would call her being told prior she was unwanted and should leave “informal”.
I’d guess that MBs past use of mental health professionals suggests he would be amenable and compliant.
I am not “ok with violence”. And yet you seem to persist in using that label and flinging it around, hoping it will stick at some point. It won’t.
LK should not have been shot - that was not the appropriate solution to any of this. But bending over backwards to diminish all the events that lead up to that final moment on that tragic day suggests that some are truly OK with bizarre behavior and the stated goal of ruining someone’s life… that is not becoming.
Oh it was absolutely horrific. And that’s exactly why you don’t want juries to see all that.
One thing about the legal field, it’s never dull.
I should have just quoted you instead of bothering with my previous post.
I agree with all of that ^.
In an earlier thread about the honored BNTs not having any reason to behave badly, I brought up that BNTs were being outed for child sexual abuse. One of the responses was that it wasn’t news, “everyone knew and looked the other way.”
It was maybe a thoughtless comment meant only to show that person was “in the know” as compared to me and that person was just acting the fool and didn’t know anymore than anyone else. However, regardless of trying to excuse that person’s comment, it was said.
I responded to SillyHorse with that. I understand you taking it to mean MB. It did not.
Character witnesses can be used at any time.
Here are two of the latest examples of people promoting violence.
Edited to add “people promoting violence” for clarification.
Yes. Clearly.
He can’t be committed for life so just knock it off. No one can predict when any individual will be well enough to be on their own again.
You seem all Gung ho and equating the man with being a convicted criminal and that is not the case despite your affinity for using trigger words.
Many would say she is a villain.
Nice try. Run out of other options of things to say?
Oh, give me a break. I don’t need to show you anything. Furthermore, to compare anything, ANYTHING, about the MB/LK situation to that of people sexually molesting minors is preposterous and just plain dumb.
I’m honored that you remember me. /s /s /s /s /s
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