Funny how a training question was surrounded by name calling , sarcasms and a just plain low class attitude . I will try and move away the debris for those who might realy want the answer to the question so coated with venom because so many like what I am teaching and come here to learn it.
Look I give as good as I get.
First about the bits,. it is not the length of the shank that evens determins how severe the bit is . It is the distance from the purchase to the top of the mouth piece that creates the leverage . Ask a bit maker if this is confusing . .
One again a bit maker is not making statements that are completely different from anything that I have ever heard before you are. I have always been told that the length of the shank definitely plays a roll in the severity of the bit.
Were you to have one of my bits in your hands and could measure that and knew what you were seeing you would know it is not as severe as it looks . I guese I better retake all those photos on my site becuase I’m not seeing tight reins and overbent horses .
Well I would like to know how long the purchase is and how long the shank is. The shank is the leverage hence the force.
Every horse every day can go through somthing that creates tension . Eever wake up with a stiff neck or back even though you did not think you did somthing to cause it Ever see a horse get cast in the stall ? Maybe it did and you never saw it as well Horses get spooked and make quick reactions, we just don’t allways know about .
So you go to the barn everyday assume that the horse did something you did not see and you are reacting to it? Then I’m assuming that the bending on the ground happens every day before you mount is that correct? Could you describe the bending that you do from the ground?
SO before I ever mount my horse I do him a courtesy and I check these things with flexions .
Well that answers one question.
I have been taught to watch for certian signs the horse gives me in the direction of the ears etc and can tell at once if it is stiff today on the left or right, has a tight back etc BEFORE I put my weight on and add to the pain FROM THE JAW .
So if the horse is lame or back sore the pain will manifest in the jaw? Will you look anywhere else? Will you lunge to see where the pain is emanating from? It would seem hard to tell back or leg if all your information is coming from the jaw.
We do not saw back and forth on the horse we have a left and right flexion of the Atlas , we use the snafle and curb if in a double seperate and together all done with soft opening and closing of the hand nmot brute force , and AFTER that we can see if the neck is free with a flexion .
I never said saw I asked if you bend to the left and right sawing is entirely different. How do you tell if the neck is free? Do you bend more or do you ask the horse to go forward? If you are asking the horse to go forward how do you ask?
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F NOT we work longer to see if the flexions can free that spot . Mesrter Racinet also taught some manipulations of the flexions alone were not enough but I find I seldom need those unles the horse is really injured . However I CAN feel the subluxation and I CAN see it is released from the flexion as he taught me to do .
What do you see? what does the horse do if he need more bending hoe does the horse feel under saddle? What does the subluxation feel like and how does it differ when the horse is relaxed.
If anyone has ever done allmost any type of sports , people stretch first and this is like a stretch and a language between the horse and rider . Some times the horse is very free in all the flexions , it takes a few seconds and we get on OR go to work in as we choose for that horse at that time . This means I KNOW tjheior is nothing PHYSICAL from stopping the horse from the work and I am not PUSHIHG him through a physicla problem which would add tension and stress.
Are you saying that a person that does not do what you do can’t feel that their horse is off unless they do flexions on the ground first. Lets say I go to you as a beginner know very little about horses and I give my horse to you for full training. It seem to me that if I do not understand what the horse is telling you when you are flexing him you could tell me what ever and I would have to believe you. My riding would be at your mercy.
After I get on, as the horse walks a bit free I ask for a few more to make sure my weight and the moving is not a problem .I also checked this in the work in hand by the way at the movment also . If I find an area, a leg that is stiff etc I ask that leg to work ,maybe a shoulder in and WHILE that leg is stretching a little and slowly I ask for a flexion . WHEN I get it that leg is relaxed because the flexion goes to the spot being worked and releases the tension their AKA the door to to the entire horse NOT just the head .
You said that the door is the mouth the mouth is on the head I can read anything you don’t put down. Please explain how you do a shoulder in without your leg? What is guiding the shoulders and preventing the shoulder in from becoming a circle?
Of course we know the brain is in the head that controls the entire body and their is NO pain if the brain says so ,and their IS pain if any part of the brain is deprived of oxygen. NOT because somthing IS really wrong all the time , the brain is sending the WRONG signa lbecuae that section is deprived of the blood and what ever part that is the brains screams PAIN at that area. . I dont want to get into the fact the horses skull in the creases are movable and the flexions can also help recirculate this blood supply as the tension is released . That is cranial therapy but it hits on part of it and I can do this on the ground as well if I discover a problem in hand .I is better to fix it in the work in hand first . Of course these are things science has taught us long after Baucher and he had no way to know BUT it does give multiple layers as to why he got such great results and we can as well and best yet we do every day no matter what people say .
If the brain is being deprived of oxygen if you are not riding your system how are we not seeing damage to horses over a period of time?
On Dr. Bennet ever read her essay on Baucher and why the Jaw flexions work so well ?
No, However I do read The Horse medical magazine and a veterinary journal that I subscribe to online and her name has never come up.
Now for those who keep ranting and name calling you are over tense in the jaw for sure since your fingers are doing the typing I can hope a good jaw flexion might relax those rigid digits .I can highly recomend a good double bridle (with a big purchase AND a long shank , why not ) and some jaw flexions . However in some cases here I am very tempted to say maybe the cranked nose band would not be so bad and I think I see why it was invented .
I think your a little like Steven Segal doer of everything master of nothing and a little public scrutiny will do you some good. And from what was just written above don’t belly ache about people calling you names.
