Well, at LEAST they patched it.
Honestly? If he were my horse he wouldn’t be running. :no:
Go Denis of Cork. Stay safe, BB.
That’s all I’m going to say.
[QUOTE=War Admiral;3269975]
Well, at LEAST they patched it.
Honestly? If he were my horse he wouldn’t be running. :no:
Go Denis of Cork. Stay safe, BB.
That’s all I’m going to say.[/QUOTE]
The great Phar Lap ran with a quarter crack problem and won… and they didn’t have great materials back then like they do now. I’m guessing this isn’t all that uncommon, and that BB could come out of this just fine.
Again, if this isn’t all that uncommon and patching them up to run is done regularly in most barns and many trainers have done much worse than Dutrow and just knew how to keep it zipped better, I no longer want a racehorse.
To quote my trainer (dressage, but she has competed FEI and internationally, so she wasn’t just speaking from first-level only experience): “If my horse has a problem, I withdraw. I don’t care if I’m at the biggest show in the world. No ‘trying to make it right’ for this class. If my horse has a problem come up, I withdraw. No question.”
If I am unable to find such standards in the racing world, I don’t want to have a racehorse. Up until a month ago, I always wanted one someday. This TC run has opened my eyes in all sorts of ways, none of them positive.
I hope BB and all others, but I’m especially worried about him with his foot, come home safe.
you are a very nieve person …hope to have a perfect world…guess what ,it will not happen…until you understand the real facts you should not voice your opinion…racing is no worse than showing …i bet if your kid had a headache you would not give him an aspirin to go to school…or would you call the doctor…
I saw the video of Casino Drive, he just looks too quiet to me. Has no fire? Is that normal for him? (I haven’t seen him go before) I also noticed those big white patches on both his knees. Is that from an old fall?
For those of you who have been keeping up on these horse… How has Ready’s Echo been doing? He seems to have the ability to run the length, watching the Peter pan, he was a ways off of Casino Drive, but looked to be catching up. Do you think he has a chance?
My friend loves Tal of Ekati, she says he is bred to be the winner, but he did only place 4th in the Derby. I don’t think he ran in the Preakness?
Tale Of Ekati
Did anyone else catch the blurb about Tale Of Ekati having throat surgery after his 1:18 and change work? I think it was on DRF. Hadn’t heard anything about it before.
Melissa
Tale of Ekati comes up late in the end, so the Belmont just might be his thing. But BB is just so fast. I don’t see anyone beating him…
[QUOTE=hessy35;3269988]
The great Phar Lap ran with a quarter crack problem and won… and they didn’t have great materials back then like they do now. I’m guessing this isn’t all that uncommon, and that BB could come out of this just fine.[/QUOTE]
Look: I know that. I’ve seen plenty of OTTBs w/ quarter crack issues in my 40+ years of retraining them. And there was a WB in my old barn whose LF pretty much had to be kept glued together by the type of patching described.
BUT if you want to KEEP them sound, it’s pretty darn axiomatic that you don’t stress them on a fresh one. (But then, I’m into training for longevity, which racing trainers are not. My current OTTB is 23 and still working.)
So - if it were my horse, would it be running a long, demanding race tomorrow? Nope. Sorry. It would have some time off to let that crack grow down and THEN patch it, when the patch has at least SOME hope of staying in.
[QUOTE=War Admiral;3270142]
Look: I know that. I’ve seen plenty of OTTBs w/ quarter crack issues in my 40+ years of retraining them. And there was a WB in my old barn whose LF pretty much had to be kept glued together by the type of patching described.
BUT if you want to KEEP them sound, it’s pretty darn axiomatic that you don’t stress them on a fresh one. (But then, I’m into training for longevity, which racing trainers are not. My current OTTB is 23 and still working.)
So - if it were my horse, would it be running a long, demanding race tomorrow? Nope. Sorry. It would have some time off to let that crack grow down and THEN patch it, when the patch has at least SOME hope of staying in.[/QUOTE]
But you aren’t Dutrow… so all we can do is pray BB holds up!
It’s a minor, small quarter crack. If the same well-respected shoer was able patch together Touch Gold’s far, far worse foot and that horse won the Belmont, then honestly, it’s not going to be an issue for Big Brown. Many other things may indeed be, but it won’t be the quarter crack.
And, sorry, in the 40+ years I have been around show horses, I have never, ever heard of a top rider pulling an otherwise sound horse out of a once-in-a-lifetime event because of a minor, small quarter crack. FWIW, I’ve known plenty who will do anything to get a horse with far more worrisome issues through the important event.
It’s easy to say “I would never do that” until reality smacks you in the face. A nice sentiment and I’ve no doubt that those espousing it truly believe it, but it’s just a lot harder to do in the real world.
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Did anyone else catch the blurb about Tale Of Ekati having throat surgery after his 1:18 and change work? I think it was on DRF. Hadn’t heard anything about it before.
Melissa[/QUOTE]
Ok, what’s the deal with this?
Tomcito DEFINITELY underwent a myectomy.
I have heard rumors Ready’s Echo also had a myectomy after the Peter Pan, but have not been able to confirm it.
And now Tale of Ekati???
I saw nothing in the news about Ready’s Echo and Tale of Ekati having any sort of throat surgery. Not saying it didn’t happen, but until I see proof from a credible source, I’m going to assume these are just rumors.
Well I’ll be damned:
http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=32881
Tale of Ekati also has had medical work done on him in the past fortnight. His trainer, Barclay Tagg, on Thursday said Tale of Ekati had a “very minor procedure” on his throat after working six furlongs in 1:18.20 on May 26.
“He displaced his palate in the work,” Tagg said. “I didn’t want to run the risk of it happening in the Belmont. He didn’t miss a day of training.”
Good job, Brink.
As cited before - the Belmont press conference which just ended confirmed that Casino Driver WILL RACE TOMORROW
Short of something totally unexpected he will be run.
Repeat again - HE WILL RUN IN THE BELMONT
[QUOTE=Barnfairy;3243601]
Well doesn’t this just sum it up beautifully?-
Love the horse, but that trainer’s irritating by John Clay[/QUOTE]
Yes, it does!! I really would like it if there was another TC winner, and I think a lot of Big Brown, but I cannot stand his trainer. It kind of reminds me of the New England Patriots this last year. It would have been an awesome accomplishment and I would have liked to have witnessed a perfect season and Super Bowl win, but I couldn’t bring myself to root for them because of some of the attitudes displayed. I feel the same way about Dutrow, but I will root for BB anyways! He can’t help it if his trainer is an arrogant a**.
Well whatever Tale of Ekati had done didn’t seem to affect his running. He was 7 seconds faster the last time he practiced! (in mud!)
Did they figure out what was up with Casino Drive?
Any news how Ready’s Echo has been doing?
I wonder if Tagg feels like a jerk for giving Coa a hard time now. LOL
Ready’s Echo
Well, finally some official confirmation on Ready’s Echo.
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/article/45617.htm
quote
Ready’s Echo
displaced his palate in his last start, the Peter Pan (gr. II), and has since had
a myectomy to correct the problem. He’s a strong closer with a ton of stamina in
his female family, and while he still hasn’t been tested for class, he could be an
interesting horse to include in the exotics.
Melissa
Does anyone know anything definitive about Casino Drive this morning?
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Does anyone know anything definitive about Casino Drive this morning?[/QUOTE]
He is out. Lame on his LH.
checkout the Bloodhorse.com article.
GO BIG BROWN!!!
from the NYT;
June 7, 2008, 8:54 am [B]Casino Drive Scratched[/B]
By <a href="http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/author/jdrape/">Joe Drape</a>
Casino Drive was scratched from the 140th running of the Belmont Stakes because of a stone bruise to his left hind hoof. The colt jogged three furlongs early Saturday morning, and appeared to be in fine shape.
But Casino Drive’s racing manager Nobutaka Tada said the colt was favoring the hoof while taking a bath after the workout. Tada said it was a minor injury, but owner Hidetoshi Yamamoto did not want to take any chances with the Peter Pan champ, especially in the grueling mile and a half marathon.
The horse will be shipped back to Japan on Tuesday, but could return later this year to run in the Breeders’ Cup.
