Belmont thread

I think this idea is even dumber than the, “Kids eat free Tuesday nights at Hooters” campaign the restaurant was running several years ago.

What kind of moronic marketing execs do they have working that company?

Suburban families with 2.5 kids and an SUV aren’t going to make Hooters their first choice for Tuesday night dinner. And I don’t think they’re going to win over any more customers with their foray into racing.

Those Hooters girls waiting in the wings are going to feel pretty out of place if Big Brown loses.

:rolleyes:

Then again, it’s perfect. Somehow, it fits this team and background. Maybe it even epitomizes racing today. Which would be a shame.

I have nothing against this horse himself and fear for him, actually, hope he comes home sound (relatively speaking, as with his feet, I question whether he is 100% sound now). I wouldn’t wish calamity on any horse. But there is zero excitement here for this TC bid. The connections have ruined it for me, from the name they picked, which could have been overcome easily if that were all, through their crass, classless behavior, which to me cannot be. I’ve heard all the reasons why people say don’t hold the connections against the horse. But I do not think that having this team in the winner’s circle would be good for racing. Poor Big Brown is saddled with a whole lot more than just Desormeaux. Not his fault, no, but baggage there regardless.

If this is what this sport is about today, my own dream of someday having a piece of a racehorse is fading. If I ever did have a racehorse, I would be constantly questioning now whether the trainer used meds and practices I didn’t even know existed. If my trainer said one-tenth of the things Dutrow has, I would fire him on the spot, TC on the line or not, and then issue a public apology for the insult to the image of racing that he had given while being paid by me and thus made me a part of it. And when people say this and worse goes on unsaid all the time in almost every barn, I seriously question whether I want into this sport someday after all.

I might not even watch this Belmont. If I were sure he would win, I wouldn’t, but as they say, anything can happen in racing.

Fire away, as I’m sure people will.

Maybe, just maybe, the NTRA and Jockey Guild can workout some deal as did for the Derby.

NetJets was brought in by them to buy all the starting jockey’s pant logo rights (although Kent was exempt and so was one other jockey) and in lieu of payment they jockey’s disable fund received a large donation. [Regarding taxes for having forgone that money they Jockey I think takes that amount as a tax deduction as they effectively gave up income for a charitable donation]

Maybe I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill, but look back at the wonderful ad-free photos of winners. Would anyone really like to see famed Secretariat/Ron Turcotte image known as “The Photo” with his pants reading: “Schlitz Beer” or “White Owl cigarettes”?

I’m just waiting to see how he looks in those little orange shorts!!:winkgrin:

Semi-Belmont related …

But big money on the table for Mass Cap if BB and Curlin stay undefeated and show up for the race (from Bloodhorse.com):

“Suffolk Downs has announced that the purse for this year’s Massachusetts Handicap will be $5 million if Big Brown wins the Triple Crown and both he and 2007 Breeders’ Cup Classic (gr. I) winner Curlin remain unbeaten in 2008, and go on to start in the MassCap against one another. The $5 million would include a $1 million participation bonus for each.”

Oops … I’m following myself, but this is freaking great!!

“Nike Signs Big Brown To $90 Million Horseshoe Contract”

Only in the Onion! http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nike_signs_big_brown_to_90_million?utm_source=onion_rss_daily

Excerpts:

“Big Brown, whose Nike endorsement deal is the largest ever for a thoroughbred, was flown from New York to Portland in a private Nike jet stocked with the world’s finest bourbon, caviar, sugar cubes, cigars, carrots, and hay. Upon arriving on the west coast, the equine superstar’s handlers whisked him past a throng of cheering fans into a stretch limousine bound for Nike headquarters, where Brown, his 11-horse entourage, and his team of lawyers reviewed the contract one last time before signing.”


“Although Big Brown was approached by a number of suitors from sportswear manufacturers including Adidas, Reebok, and Pony, the undefeated 3-year-old was ultimately won over by Nike’s willingness to work closely with him to create a horseshoe conforming to his strong sense of personal style as well as his physical needs. Big Brown was reportedly impressed by Nike’s efforts when technicians used cameras to record his gait from multiple angles while he ran on a treadmill.”


"Nike marketing personnel said that throughout the design process, Big Brown has viewed his trademark sportswear as a lifestyle rather than a line of products bearing his image. Whether approving design sketches or choosing materials, the racehorse has emphasized the promotion of individual identity by insisting the Air Brown buyer should be able to customize their horseshoes with alternate color schemes, optional blinking LEDs, or Swarovski crystals.

" ‘B-Squared brings a lot of energy to this project—you should see him cantering around in a frenzy, ranging back and forth in the studio space,’ Parker said. ‘He’s really exposing a side of himself that many people haven’t seen before. He’s showing everyone that he’s for real.’ "

You never know - the jock may have owl eyes on his ass!

N speed duels, please!

let’s hope bb and cd don’t get into a speed duel!:no:

:lol::lol: that’s awsome, and entirely possible in the near future. Nike is one of the biggest companies in the world and their advertising budget is HUGE, I can totally see them using a famous race horse in their ads, and tv commerical…easily these days with the technology (futbol fans know what I’m talking about…I can watch soccer commericals by Nike and Pepsi all day :wink: ).

Oh, they can maybe use Big Brown in their campaign for that new equestrian boot they’re working on.

http://special.equisearch.com/blog/horsehealth/2008/04/nike-just-does-it-riding-boots.html

So, will it be NO Hooter’s girls in the winners circle? I hope to god they do not show up.

Really, that’s just beyond tacky–to even think of that kind of ploy. No class at all…

How completely rude if not insulting to fans and the horses by ABC/ESPN:

Two graded races scheduled for the Belmont Stakes undercard, the Woody Stephens Stakes and the Manhattan Handicap, might not be broadcast live on ESPN or ABC despite seven hours of live coverage on Saturday at the track, a spokesman for the networks said on Thursday.

Come on for Pete’s sake! The undercard races for the Belmont are excellent. How else could any network fill all that time with chatter about a 10-horse field race where 97% of the time is focused on 1-horse?

The Manhattan is where we’re see the return of Shake the Bank and Better Talk Now. The Woody Stephens is like a Kentucky Derby ‘almost’ field of names from Majestic Warrior to J Be K and Ready’s Image.

No reason whatsoever to not air both of these races live. NYRA should mandate that if ABC airs the Belmont live then they have two air two undercard races live too.

I don’t understand why they can’t at least show the undercard races in a split screen while they air the other mindless fluff piece drivel for the casual racing fans.

I’m going to be livid if I can’t see BTN and I have to watch Desormeaux ride with a “Hooters” logo on his @ss.

While I completely agree about not airing the 2 races, I think this happens every year. I don’t think any of the TC races show the race right before the big one. Remember, they missed out Buy the Barrel before the Preakness. I am only not whinning loudly bc I have HRTV. They will now be allowed to show them live but it is going to completely screw up my recording. I do feel for all of you that don’t have it though, trust me, I would be livid. I am livid about Einstein too though. You know they said on HRTV they were possibly pointing him to the Foster now? Is it just me or does that seem completely off the wall?

ruh roh…

Casino Drive having unspecified hind end issues…

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2008/June/06/casino-drive-physical-problem.aspx

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Casino Drive having unspecified hind end issues…

‘Casino Drive could miss Belmont with hind leg issue’[/QUOTE]

Odd photos are captured all the time, but man that to me is one ugly image taken there of him struggling over the slop yesterday.

It shouldn’t change the race too much. A lot of experts were tossing him out anyhow. Look to Denis of Cork or Tale of Ekati to be the true solid challengers.

On the bright side, I’m sure a good chunk of the planned pre-race coverage is going to be on the Casino Drive angle. If he scratches, maybe they’ll have enough dead airtime to show the last two undercard races!

Wishful thinking?

Does the Associated Press know more then others? They suggest he’ll still race Saturday:

Casino Drive has a bruised hoof but there are no plans to scratch the Japanese horse from Saturday’s Belmont Stakes.

Tada said Casino Drive would be examined again Friday. Depending on the hoof’s condition, he acknowledged there’s a slight possibility the colt may not run Saturday. [b]Horses entered in the Belmont may be scratched up to 45 minutes before the 6:25 p.m. EDT post time.

However, Tada said, “If he stays like this, there’s no reason to stop him. At the moment, we are not thinking of scratching.”[/b]

“Patches” the horse ready to go …

From The Daily Racing Form this afternoon …

Posted 6/6/2008, 2:18 pm
Big Brown has patch applied
By JAY PRIVMAN

ELMONT, N.Y. - Big Brown had an acrylic patch, to protect a quarter crack, put on the inside of his left front hoof shortly after noon Friday at Belmont Park by foot specialist Ian McKinlay, who said the procedure “was very routine.”

McKinlay said the procedure took about a half-hour.

“If that patch comes off, I might as well quit,” McKinlay said. “That patch will stay on three or four months if we want. This is so run-of-the-mill.”

McKinlay said he first had to “debride any loose material” in the crack, then “create a surface for the patch to bind to.”

[b]“There’s a little bit of fiberglass, and a methacrylic patch,” McKinlay said. “It’s stronger than his hoof wall.”

McKinlay said there was “no heat, no sign of infection” in the injured foot.[/b]

McKinlay said Big Brown, who has needed previous work on his troublesome feet, is “a super patient.”

McKinlay said he got his first good night’s sleep on Wednesday.

"Everything I see couldn’t be better,"he said. “Everything just went letter perfect.”

McKinlay, who lives in New Jersey, said he would not attend the race.

“I don’t expect anything to go wrong,” he said. “I’ll be watching on TV with some friends and people from our church.”

McKinlay also worked in Touch Gold before he won the 1997 Belmont. He described that injury, in which McKinlay had to rebuild a hoof wall that was severely injured in the Preakness, as far worse than that of Big Brown. Touch Gold denied Silver Charm’s bid to sweep the Triple Crown.

IMHO I’ll state that my view is that I think the hoof is a non-issue for tomorrow’s race.

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Odd photos are captured all the time, but man that to me is one ugly image taken there of him struggling over the slop yesterday.

It shouldn’t change the race too much. A lot of experts were tossing him out anyhow. Look to Denis of Cork or Tale of Ekati to be the true solid challengers.[/QUOTE]

Could someone thumbnail the image please!! I cannot pull it up as it is considered a “racing site” and it’s being blocked (I’m at work).

Me too! I’m with you on that.

Wearing my Go Big Brown button right this minute!!!