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if it took a week to train a sit, it’s like thinking a model A can compare to a Ferrari. +R takes far less time. [/QUOTE]
That’s what I said. Koehler is absolutely reliable, patient training over a period of time. People today want “far less time.” They don’t have the patience for Koehler.
LOL.
You mean all doggy-woggies don’t always want to please? I wonder what that’s like? 
He points out that the preliminary long line work has by this time - about one week in to training - relaxed the dog enough that very few resist though of course some do. Yes, you heard right. You’ve been training your dog about a week on a loose long line before you start teaching Sit. And you first have to pass a distraction test before commencing: You bring your dog “Without making any preliminary turns or corrections…directly to a new temptation, such as a different gate, an open car door, or a cat in a cage. When you reach the point of temptation, stop. If your dog stops and stands as though wondering what you are going to do next, you’ve got the foundation for the next exercise. And what is more, you are getting the authentic kind of obedience where the dog responds reliably without any prelminary warm-up or steadying.”
For the rare resistor, you just keep at it. You may have to position him between you and a wall so he can’t squiggle away, and you may have to hold the leash up and short, but you’ll get there. He does say this: “It is always disagreeable to make a dog uncomfortable when introducing him to a new command, but it is sometimes necessary. Certainly, less harm will result from getting squared away than from trying to pussyfoot around the reality that a dog must eventually face.”
It’s sentences like those that people don’t like. IME it’s mainly because people aren’t patient and quiet in training and they quickly - usually because their dogs have actually trained them - resort to force instead of the long - and slow - patient method.
He also talks a lot - probably from the military background - about how training builds confidence, and that the most confident dogs are not the ones who were trained with “Sit Sit Sit…I said, Sit. SIT! SIT!” and he has the dog’s methods of dissing their owners spot on: the sitting in heel position leaning against your leg, or looking all around with one foot draped over your foot so they don’t have to pay attention to you at all, they’ll feel if you move, etc.
Too long of a post…succinctly - most dogs after the first week of foundation work have quietly learned so much that you’d be amazed how much resistance has been overcome already. But again, you have to do the foundation work.