From what I understand, the ruling finally went into effect that the shoes and soring were banned. It’s REALLY hard to find anything on it.
Can anyone point me to any sources that show this is actually in effect, or better yet, that all of those showing are shut down?
Anyone in those areas where they do this to horses and see anything?
It’s not true, it was reintroduced as a bill with a modified name:.
https://blog.hslf.org/political_anim…se-soring.html
H.R. 693 will amend the Horse Protection Act to eliminate the failed walking horse industry system of self-policing (i.e., the fox guarding the henhouse), and put the U.S. Department of Agriculture in charge of licensing, training, and oversight of all inspectors, as recommended by the Inspector General’s 2010 audit. It will also ban the use at horse shows of devices that are integral to the soring process, strengthen penalties for violations, and hold abusers accountable. And according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, the legislation will accomplish all of these needed reforms without any additional taxpayer burden.
Oh man. That sucks.
I just read the Act proposed. Yes, it will go a long way toward addressing the soring issue. But the MAIN reason the USDA is doing this designating of volunteers to police the horses involved is that the HPA has a statutory limit of a maximum of $500,000 that can be appropriated for HPA enforcement. IIRC, this amount has NEVER actually been reached. And that number was contained in the original legislation from the early '70s. So the Budget Office finding is not particularly important. If you want to be REALLY serious then that early number should be adjusted for inflation and will be about $3.2 Million. Then you can send real USDA/APHIS vets out to examine horses and prosecute alleged offenders.
G.
Has Coke pulled their sponsorship of the big lick shows?
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what? Coke is a sponsor? Well I tried the rape case of one of their interns years ago, life sentence and my judge wrote it up in Readers Digest so time for me to call Coke and stop the sponsorship. Intern from Colorado came to Atlanta for training and cab driver raped her and chewed up her face when she fought him. Coke owes me.
Anti-soring was outlawed in 1970. There just isn’t enough inspectors (not high on the government’s list, I’m sure) The stacks and shoes are a different matter. Some people think a horse moving in the “Big Lick” is beautiful, yeah, I know… but… how do you decide what is too much? Arab, Morgan and Fine Carriage type show horses use blocks and weighted (even some dressage trainers) shoes. I think volunteer whistle blowers is a great idea as everyone seems to be able to take photos on their phone. Hope it happens.
The reason I asked is because something circulated that the soring and the bod shoeing were outlawed, and it just took effect. But, I couldn’t find anything on it except the law put up in 2017.
Thus, I asked if anyone had any legitimate facts on this. If the shoeing were outlawed, it would stop this right away.
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A few years back there was grass roots movement to get Coke to drop their sponsorship of the TWH Celebration. Never heard but the show still goes on:
Not true. You can sore a flat shod horse.
And they are still actively showing… Had one last weekend (I have acquaintances that show in that world… I grew up showing flat shod TWHs). It’s gotten to be a much, much smaller world than it once was and that’s a good thing.
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Well while a lot of Coke people I’ve known over the years are retired or dead, I’ll make the call tomorrow. And hit the tv and ajc as I still know reporters Coke does respond well to publicity
You didn’t read what I wrote, which I mispelled, I said soring and big shoes were outlawed. I never said anything about a flat shod horse. If these horses weren’t shod that way, sure you can sore a horse, but without the insane shoeing, it would be crazy.
no, it wouldn’t be crazy. It wins. I regret to inform you that they can …and do… sore flat shod TWH show horses. You may not know it to be true, that doesn’t change the fact that it is.
No, it would win Blue Ribbons.
I was trained by FOSH many years ago as a DQP (“civilian” inspector at shows who examined horses and issued citations for suspected soring). As part of that training I learned WAY more than I ever wanted to know about the 5Ws of soring. I’ve been on trail rides in Middle TN where there were sored horses. Soring up a trail horse probably makes the list of the Ten Most Stupid Things You Can Do To A Horse yet there they were.
Just because something is outlawed doesn’t mean it “goes away.” If that were true we’d have no opiod crisis, drunk driving, or tax evasion.
G.
This!
What are the 5W’s of soring?
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