Boarder pulled my horse's mane

[Scribbler]

My guess is that this poster misread or didn’t properly read the original post but is constitutionally incapable of owning up to a simple error. Yeah those are real good qualities for a career in IT (sarcasm font).

[ThreeWishes]

You’re unbelievable. So anyone who you’ve never told not do really stupid things to you and yours is off the hook. Because you miscommunicated?
Right…. Ridiculous

[trubandloki]

@ThreeWishes, see, you got suckered in too!

[ThreeWishes]

Sorry. Now I’ve been sucked into
This vortex of nonsense. Lol. It’s ridiculous beyond measure. I’ll be sure to tell every person in my near orbit all the usual things that constitute being a normal person because otherwise I’ll be complicit. Hahahahaha

[KBC]

@gone_rabian

Have a nice day. We’re done. I’m not repeating myself anymore. You can take yourself back through the thread and re-read everything that’s been written if you’re that bored.

You still do not get to tell me whAt to do, or what not to do! I have read the thread, with comprehension.

[ThreeWishes]

I did! And it’s all my fault lol. Is this some type of social experiment in stupidity? Anyway OP … Susie is a moron your BO sucks and you were wronged.
The End

[eightpondfarm]

i know right!! This one is pretty clearly a black and white issue. Gonearabian’s “gray area” has no welcome in this case. I think maybe because we all take it rather personally that someone would alter our horse’s appearance without permission.

I do think that it is pretty much either a trespasser or a thief that is not willing to honor private property. And both are people behaving badly.

[TheDBYC]

@gone_rabian, by that logic, your significant other could argue that it was fine to sleep with your mother & best friend because you didn’t specifically communicate that it was not OK.

[gone_rabian]

Have you not been exposed to those types of groups in your life? That is actually a thing. And yeah, already had conversations like this.

[KBC]

@TheDBYC

@gone_rabian, by that logic, your significant other could argue that it was fine to sleep with your mother & best friend because you didn’t specifically communicate that it was not OK.

Hang on, that was in my original contract something about “keep thee only to her” I mean the words were archaic, but the meaning was clear, so shouldn’t need to be expressed again.

Ok, I get that not every union is done in church, seems like there is a benefit after all.

Just checking, being old and all that, is it normally assumed that relationships are exclusive, unless one makes arrangements to the differ!

[B-burg_Dressage]

Like, I get that people like this exist. But they shouldn’t be the norm or what I have to base my whole life around. It sounds exhausting.

We bought 20 acres with a pond on it. The old neighbor used to fish in the pond. When we bought it, he stopped. This is the norm. This is how most people function within the rules of society. The norm in the horse world is to NOT mess with another’s horse. I am not at fault if a neighbor comes and rides my horse without permission. I am not at fault if a neighbor comes and pulls blankets without permission. I am not at fault if my neighbor breaks into my house and takes my TV without my permission. Even if I have never told my neighbors not to do those things.

[B-burg_Dressage]

Just like it’s normally assumed that other’s don’t pull my horse’s mane unless one makes arrangements to the differ.

[SuzieQNutter]

@Curly_Feather

Add me to the list of never having heard of a correct way to cut a carrot…

At least some good as come from this thread. Clueless people trying to help will cut carrots into coins. Perfect for causing choke. They are just trying to be nice. They should not be feeding any horse that is not theirs.

[eightpondfarm]

i cut a carrot in half across the center length. Then i cut those halves into long strips…about six long sticks come off each half. Do i do it right? (saves fingers and esp with mustangs that makes them not have to get so close…which in the beginning they don’t want to do)

[atlatl]

@gone_rabian

I work in software development and so the number one rule is to NEVER assume that the other person knows what you mean, so you always tell them up front what you understand/expect from that person whether it’s what the client is asking for or what you’re asking from the client. I’ve also learned that common sense doesn’t jibe with anyone anymore so I am always going to lean more towards that when things like this happen it’s the fault of both parties emotions aside. Had they communicated properly, this would never had happened.

Maybe this example will help you understand.

You share your lunch with a co-worker once for whatever reason. A couple of weeks later you go to get your lunch from the work frig and discover that the same co-worker has added some ingredient that you don’t like to your tuna salad. You ask the co-worker to not mess with your lunch and the co-worker responds along the lines of “sorry you don’t appreciate what I was doing to improve your lunch.”

In my day, the number one rule in software development was to not muck about with other people’s code. Same applies here.

Missy Manepuller is the ONLY one at fault in this situation. Nothing emotional about it, just facts. Kind of like zeros and ones, it’s binary.

[BigMama1]

@gone_rabian

I’ve had property issues myself where I’ve had to explicitly tell my neighbor to stop driving his gator through the back of my property bc my other neighbor was suspicious that he was spying on her. This neighbor usually came in the back way with the previous owners of the house so we had to tell him that was cool with the old owners, but he can’t do that with us.

You’d think it would be common sense that him coming on the property from that direction would have stopped with the previous owner, but no. Did he ask our permission to do this? No. We had to explicitly tell him to stop.

Case and point, it was both of our faults. Since then, we’ve not had any problems.

Nope. Still not the same at all.

In the situation you described, gator guy had permission from the previous owners to cross the property and had been doing it for some time. So if you were aware of this and didn’t tell him that the rules had changed once you moved in, then yes, you are are partly to blame.

But little Susie didn’t ever have anyone’s permission to handle the horse or pull its mane. She had permission on one specific occasion 6 months ago to ride it once, in a clinic.

How many more times are you going to post analogies that are simply false? It was Susie’s fault and nobody else’s

Also, the phrase is “case in point,” not “case and point.”

[atlatl]

Set and match!

[Alex_and_Bodie_s_Mom]

Sorry, but no.

Miscommunication implies that there has been communication in the past, which was not completely clear to at least one party. In my example, there didn’t need to be communication, because the neighbor had zero right to be on my property in the first place, let alone to destroy it. In your example, sorry, but I still don’t think there needed to be communication. You were the new owner. The neighbor had no right to trespass. End of story. No miscommunication. Miscommunication would have occurred if you had told the neighbor, “Yeah, we don’t necessarily mind if you do that, but if you could not do it, that’d be really cool.” But as you had never had this conversation, there was no miscommunication. Same with the OP. She had a right to expect her horse - and its mane - to be safe at the stable. No communication was necessary.

You keep having to repeat yourself because - well, honestly, haven’t you heard the old saying that when you’re in a deep hole, stop digging? You can put down the shovel and stop digging.

[Mondo]

@gone_rabian

You’re on here venting bc of the lack of communication prior to the chick chopping the horses mane.

How can the OP have communicated beforehand that she did not want Susie touching her horse 6 months down the road, when she had no way of knowing that Susie was entirely ignorant of a basic social more: you don’t touch what does not belong to you? In your view, if you loaned me something on a one-time basis, and 6 months later, I break into your house and take it again, that’s A-OK because you stupidly didn’t think I would be dumb enough to do that and so didn’t “communicate” beforehand. Right?

[KBC]

@Alex_and_Bodie_s_Mom

You keep having to repeat yourself because - well, honestly, haven’t you heard the old saying that when you’re in a deep hole, stop digging? You can put down the shovel and stop digging

less of shovel and hole, more like large spoon and pot