To be fair they are not supposed to be in a coma, but it sure looks like that is what is pinning! Out here I knew of a couple horses that were more TB (and one that is a TB) and they did well in a couple Derbies so I thought the tide was changing.
The OPs horse is a lovely mare but I have to say I am shocked that was a winning derby round, watching the entire course I just wanted to kick her and make her go somewhere. But to be fair, I guess you ride the way that wins the class. :sadsmile:
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The OPs horse is a lovely mare but I have to say I am shocked that was a winning derby round, watching the entire course I just wanted to kick her and make her go somewhere. But to be fair, I guess you ride the way that wins the class. :sadsmile:[/QUOTE]
FYI - that round put her in fifth going in to the handy round which she won with a big score, putting her in first overall. Plus, the mare has a big step and, at 3’3", she didn’t need to “go”.
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In a coma, same as a High Performance Hunter.[/QUOTE]
The year that Rumba won the finals, he did a little head tossing and playing after a few jumps, and several (or more) people on this board commented negatively on it. Obviously the judges didn’t care. And did anyone see this year’s winner? Hardly coma-like, and it wasn’t much different than the others who made it to the final round (which is the only HANDY round per derby format).
Unfortunately, the world is full of people who aren’t happy unless they are complaining about something. OP, I thought the videos you posted were lovely. Good luck with your decision, and I hope you will keep us posted!
I wasn’t putting the horse down, I was making a comment about what is pinning. Whether or not she needed to go, she looks like she is going in slow motion, it looks more like a winning AA hunter round than what I would consider a derby round. I was just commenting that there doesn’t seem to be a difference as to what wins in the AA hunters and in a “Derby”. I thought there was supposed to be.
Jersey Boy’s Sire White Star coming to the US!
That’s a lovely mare you have, what are the bloodlines?
I just thought I would let you know that I will be importing my stallion White Star to the US early next year. He will be standing at stud in MA. White Star is the USEF’s 2011 Hunter Stallion of the year!
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That’s a lovely mare you have, what are the bloodlines?
I just thought I would let you know that I will be importing my stallion White Star to the US early next year. He will be standing at stud in MA. White Star is the USEF’s 2011 Hunter Stallion of the year![/QUOTE]
Thank you to the COTHer who posted this for me earlier in this thread. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sheila101
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If you are looking for a derby prospect but would be happy with a jumper, what about Sir Caletto? All the offspring I have seen from him were short coupled with great jumps. You also might end up with a gray.
http://www.silverhorne.com/SirCaletto.html[/QUOTE]
I had a wonderful Sir Caletto gelding who I believe would have made an excellent Derby/high performance horse had I not had to sell him due to finances. He had a wonderful puppy dog personality and an incredible work ethic.
We are targeting the big hunters when we choose many of our crosses here as it certainly has been Palladio’s ring to play in! There were two Palladio kids showing in the Classics this past year with nice ribbons (4th and 7th out of 35) while also posting wins in the childrens with their kids on them… and I expect at least one of those to move up to the INT Derbies next year (knock wood).
We go for big, scopy jumping horses, fabulously balanced canters and great brains with easy to ride feel. We like our horses to have “sit” so they can go slow and easy and power off the hind end. We don’t worry too much about a little knee in the trot as long as horse is loose in the shoulder and well engaged from behind. The problem we find is that when you have really easy minded horses they do often go as ammy rides and don’t always get in a home with the ability or checkbook to take them up to the Derby level. Hopefully we can get a few of our current ones into the right hands to see what they can really do in the ring.
Our personal experience has been that they don’t really want them going “coma-like” especially in the Handy round. Maybe some judges but plenty seem to expect more pace and activity.
I believe the stallon Acord III at Crooked Willow has also competed successfully in Hunter Derbies with an amateur. A handsome boy with a royal pedigree. 
I’d expand your search beyond the labeled hunter stallions, especially since you are breeding for a derby horse.
Top of mind, I’d look hard at the Holsteiner, Ariadus (Acord II-Latus II-Laertes). Personally, I love the A-line Holsteiner for hunters and the USEF rankings support the sentiment.
Typewise, he would seem to compliment your mare very well, especially if you are trying to preserve her lovely type. And he has very good leg conformation.
Good luck with your mare. She’s lovely.
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