I’m thinking about using Fidertanz for my Idocus mare next year. Has anyone seen this cross before; or a similar cross. I’m more familiar with the Hanoverian lines, this is the first Dutch mare we’ve had in our barn.
Any advice is appreciated 
I love him!!
I’ve heard he can throw short backs though, so something to factor in, but otherwise I’m not sure about that cross.
That’s good to know because she is a tiny bit long in the back. I have a F/W line hanoverian gelding. That’s why I was looking at Fidertanz because of the F line.
This mare’s sire is Idocus and her dam sire is Bolivar.
Thanks CZF!!
Another of the Fs that I have on my ‘to use’ list! I love that he keeps the back short, he also seems to give an overall very compact outline with very good limbs. I’ve heard he may not refine as much as some of the other Fs.
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I have a F/W line hanoverian gelding.[/QUOTE]
What is a “F/W line Hanoverian?”
I think it’s referring to a horse from an F-line sire and a W-line dam…
My mare is Fidertanz/Londonderry/Weltmeyer. Not the Dutch cross you’re asking about - but I just love her. She is super sensible and affectionate, while also being an incredible mover.
GreyHorseFarm,
I can’t predict the succes of Fidertanz with your mare, but I have bred quite a few times to Fidertanz and have been very happy with the results. I also use a trainer who has started quite a few by Fidertanz. She has been very impressed with what Fidertanz improved in the mares, often giving the offspring a wonderful willingness, improvement in the gaits. Fidertanz with my mare (a Wolkentanz I/ Rohdiamant) did shorten the back a bit (which was a good thing). He also added even more suspension, improved the canter. I was surprised by the height from my mare who is 16.1, as most of the offspring from Fidertanz will end up around 17H. The frozen semen is top notch. I would not use him on a tight backed mare. Good luck!
Thanks for the advice Mary Lou. I always admired all of your horses when I was showing in Florida.
As I said earlier this is my first Dutch horse so a bit of an adventure. She is very loose and elastic in her movement - very much like a bouncy ball. Without shoes she only measures 15.3 1/2; however she walks around like she’s 18 hands. She thinks much of herself 
I looked at Fidertanz because when I look at her bloodlines there is a great deal of Holsteiner and of course Voltaire is Hanoverian. I am going to try to contact some Dutch breeders that my vet has worked with for more advice. I just really like the F-line horses; such fun to ride.
Thanks again!
I am surprised that Fidertanz is throwing so large as he himself is not so big. I have not used him but have seen quite a few nice offspring by him. The only thing I have seen with some is that there were tighter in their bodies.
Just to throw this out there as you are looking at F-line stallions…take a look at Floriscount. IMHO, he is just outstanding and is producing outstanding horses.
I was very surprised by the height myself, Blume Farm. I never expected it from the combination.
I bred him to a mare with a lot of elasticity and a slightly longer back. That was a superb combination. I would not breed Fidertanz to a short backed mare or one with a tight back.
OP: What do you mean by F/W line Hanoverian?
Bent Hickory,
My gelding’s sire is an F-line Hanoverian and his dam is a W-line. The sire line is Werther/Wendekreis. Sorry for the late reply.
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Bent Hickory,
My gelding’s sire is an F-line Hanoverian and his dam is a W-line. The sire line is Werther/Wendekreis. Sorry for the late reply.[/QUOTE]
That is what I suspected. The sire line from Werther/Wendekreis (old traditional Hanoverian breeding) is entirely different from the sire line of Fidertanz (who descends from Furioso). These are two distinct and separate “F-lines”.
That is true Bent Hickory. I must say the the F-line (Furioso) horses I have been able to ride are quite similar in feel to my Hanoverian; so I compare them in that respect. From a riders view rather than a breeders. They are both quite fun to ride.
If you speak of the F-line today you are assumed to be speaking of those from Furioso, not the old Werther-turned-F line. It is definitely not the same thing even if it feels similar under saddle It is misleading to let others assume…
I appreciate your pride in the Furioso line Kerole it shows me that the line must produce some remarkable offspring. And since Fidertanz has both of the F-Lines in his bloodlines I like him even more.
I will say that I only breed for my own personal horses. Even my vet jokes that the horses come but never leave
I know some breeding can become very popular regionally. We have so many offspring still around from the Hanoverian F-line stallion Wummestern that we all say “they are F-line”. I have one friend who has 8 of his offspring and she kept them all either to ride or go back into the broodmare herd. I sometimes forget on social media that we may all talk to each other but don’t know each other and things can get misread. It’s still great to see all these good ideas!
Thanks Blume Farm I will add Floriscount to my short list. I watched his video and he is a lovely mover.
This mare is very elastic in her movement with a strong hind end. I would say the only improvement needed might be greater reach in the front end. She has good aptitude for the piaffe and passage and easy lateral work.
