LOL depends on the horse! I exercised one that easily could have doubled as a bronc on a circuit. He’d let out a good 4 or 5 full bucks while screaming like he was being murdered. Then he’d just walk right over to you and was good for the rest of the day. From what I understand he only did it at the track and his routine was stall, lounge line for the bucks, saddle, workout, bath. If I had known the devil did that before I got on him I would have likely told that trainer to stuff it. He was talented in the fact he could do those bucks almost in place. Only way I found out about it was I saw him broncin on the leadline.
DD Watch for 9/24
DDs rig arrived at Penn recieving barn about 09:15 this morning for another work and go.
We all know nobody ever looks at bothersome things like coggins and such but does anybody ever even bother to read the sign in sheets? Security there seems to have enough fun with those new ray gun toys PHRC bought them and have no real concern about what horses are coming and going in and out of there :eek:
Oh well, Business as Usual:(
[QUOTE=judybigredpony;5117056]
What in the Sam Hill was going on in the round sand riding ring the other morning…the one on your right as you drive in??
Looked like it was Rodeo day…or circus day??
I thought your horses had to be broke before they came onto the track??
The bucking rearing lunging plunging screaming yelling whipping…almost like a Cowboy breaking session.:yes:
Not sure I caught the beginning or end???[/QUOTE]
This is what happens in there whenever that track closes for any length of time. Horsemen aren’t intelligent enough to pull out and go to a place with a track they could continue to train at, Management isn’t intelligent enough to throw anybody out, as a result what they can’t do on the track about 25 folks at a time try to do in the round pen as well as on the horse paths:o
Yeah, never a dull moment. Gotta love gyps:winkgrin:
DD Watch for 9/25
Philadelphia Park September 27th in 2nd Race
Runaway Legend
How about it PHRC? Can’t anything embarrass these guys?:mad:
DD Watch for 9/26
My sources tell me DD was sighted out at the training center today:) Never fear folks, he’s still around.
Lycurgus and Lunch money both got soundly beaten. Matter of fact if it weren’t for Lycurgus beating a horse that broke down and was vanned off they’d have both finished last. Dubinsky was steward scratched. Got one out of three that time. All of them had previous starts in Delaware.
This mockery their making of the PHRC is really beginning to get really funny. Check out the owners on these horses folks:
Lunch Money- good old Edward Longo
Lycurgus- HWH Thoroughbreds LLC:lol:
I guess Harry Hepbron has moved from trainer to owner now:lol:
Come on guys can’t you hide better than that? But then again why bother? PHRC will never notice:(
Smokey Soldier on the 26th Caraman himself is claiming ownership of ( must be one of those $1 sales:rolleyes:)
and Runaway Legend is owned by somebody named Annechino Farms LLC.
Yeah whatever.
Could these recent lousy performances be what’s flushed DD out of hiding? I’d wager on it:winkgrin:
Stay tuned folks I’m beginning to enjoy this:)
[QUOTE=Profidia;5119447]
Philadelphia Park September 27th in 2nd Race
Runaway Legend
How about it PHRC? Can’t anything embarrass these guys?:mad:[/QUOTE]
The charts don’t say it, but I was there today and Runaway Legend was vanned off after finishing the race. He was pulled up between the wire and the clubhouse turn. Two trainers told me before the race that he looked sore in the paddock.
crosspost from Off Course
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274376
there are 14 pages to this thread in 2 days!!
and …seems while things have appeared quiet in PN-land
Christy Sheidy and Brian Moore still have the tb pipeline in
full operation …
Im still trudging through this very confusing thread…
maybe someone else can make sense of this..and how pn
tbs are involved. (especially Now).
I know first-hand... BM buys at NH, brings home to CS who jacks the prices to sell under the disquise of a rescue to *save* these horses ....
…theres no rescue going on …its a quick flip from NH.
[QUOTE=Introspect;5123880]
The charts don’t say it, but I was there today and Runaway Legend was vanned off after finishing the race. He was pulled up between the wire and the clubhouse turn. Two trainers told me before the race that he looked sore in the paddock.[/QUOTE]
Oh is that right? I saw this one on hrtv. He managed to beat one horse that race. My sources tell me DDs rig was gone bright and early from the farm that day. Must have been just a coincidence again.:rolleyes: Oh but wait…
Wasn’t that DDs mexican I saw bringing the horse into the paddock??? Yeah the same one who drives his truck whenever they go into Penn for work and goes? I’m sure is just another coincidence:rolleyes:
My sources also tell me DD is getting more horses by the day and soon will have them spilling into yet another barn out at the farm. Still looks a lot like a Gill operation to most of us:yes:
I know, I know. Just another coincidence.
Business as Usual with PHRC
[QUOTE=SwtVixen;5124128]
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274376
there are 14 pages to this thread in 2 days!!
and …seems while things have appeared quiet in PN-land
Christy Sheidy and Brian Moore still have the tb pipeline in
full operation …
Im still trudging through this very confusing thread…
maybe someone else can make sense of this..and how pn
tbs are involved. (especially Now).
I know first-hand... BM buys at NH, brings home to CS who jacks the prices to sell under the disquise of a rescue to *save* these horses ....
…theres no rescue going on …its a quick flip from NH.[/QUOTE]
ROTFLMFAO!!!
Seems the “nice 4h lady” has been outed! Good job!
Maybe but its a helluva stretch
[QUOTE=Profidia;5124491]
ROTFLMFAO!!!
Seems the “nice 4h lady” has been outed! Good job![/QUOTE]
Honestly that many TBs disappearing weekly I believe the BM line but not the CS line fully. There is likely many more “4H” ladies and the smart ones are staying low. I have no dog in that fight as I would never buy a horse from the likes of CS and I don’t care how wonderful it is. If I can keep the money out of the KB’s pocket than I will. CS should have never cheap shotted Fugly about Adultery that is just way outta line.
Back to progress. Local stations have picked up the story but I’m not seeing any public opinion on it yet.
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9ID5QN00.htm
My favorite line of that article is this though.
“Penn National Gaming shares fell 61 cents, or 2.1 percent, to $28.47” LOL Let your wallets talk and stop supporting this crock of racing.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/thingstodo/7213560.html
This one mentions the scandal with Gill as well so maybe SH will keep things running smoothly.
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CS should have never cheap shotted Fugly about Adultery that is just way outta line. /QUOTE]
And SwtVixen and Profida should never have cheap shotted CS with this unsubstantiated allegation. Which sucks, because I can no longer put my faith in what they write here.
There are not cheap shots going on …
Truth is being told. I am an eye-witness to the BM/CS scams being pulled on people under the disquise of saving and rescuing horses.
The story on Fugly is true, thats how they operate.
First emotional blackmail…then the lies how the horse is going to die if a person doesnt stand up… and the secrecy is also true…as well as… call it what it is… Money Laundering!
I have witnessed the scam first hand at the BM farm with CS spewing all her BS.....
Everything posted here is truth, evidence to back it all., eye-witness to substantiate....... all truth from Nov 9th. and the 1st post.
MoJo…wanna buy a bridge…the nice 4-hlady has 1.
[QUOTE=judybigredpony;5125918]
MoJo…wanna buy a bridge…the nice 4-hlady has 1.[/QUOTE]
No, I just want to see concrete evidence that the nice 4H lady is who you say she is. I don’t consider someone saying “I am an eye-witness to her scams” to be proof. Sorry.
I’d only suggest that instead of letting this thread get derailed and ruined there is already a red hot thread about that down on off course. Anybody who has something to say about this woman and her operation let’s please keep it down there:yes:
Gee MoJo…you sound like the playground bully saying
“I double dare you”
truth must hurt huh?
The Fugly site tells the truth, and I have no doubts at all that there are many ...Many... more stories just like this one .
Afterall, its what CS does for a living, isnt it... (no question, that was retorical).
[QUOTE=SwtVixen;5126045]
Gee MoJo…you sound like the playground bully saying
“I double dare you”
truth must hurt huh?
The Fugly site tells the truth, and I have no doubts at all that there are many ...Many... more stories just like this one .
Afterall, its what CS does for a living, isnt it... (no question, that was retorical).[/QUOTE]
I’m the bully here? I am only interested in the truth. Look at your own post, taunting me, “truth must hurt huh?” I don’t even know how that is supposed to apply to me.
[QUOTE=Profidia;5119447]
Philadelphia Park September 27th in 2nd Race
Runaway Legend
How about it PHRC? Can’t anything embarrass these guys?:mad:[/QUOTE]
I do have questions on reporting horses and trainers. How do I do that? Do you have to be apart of the racing scene or can you lodge a complaint as a better? (honestly asking here not stirring the pot.) Does it vary track to track?
She’s not the only one working the NH circuit like a beggar with a tin cup pretending to be in need.
Too many of us have been played.
I don’t know how many times you have to hear stories about some of these dealers pretending to be rescuers but I’ve heard enough from several unrelated sources and that’s enough for me.
When you stick your hand outside and it gets wet, do you believe it’s raining?
How many people would it take for you to believe it without you actually putting your hand out, and if people walk inside all wet, one after another, do you believe it then? Scam artists are not going to come out and tell you what they are and sometimes I wonder if they believe it themselves. Sometimes I think that they’ve convinced themselves that they are the good guys. I would ask the question, "How do you earn a living, do you have another visible means of support or are you living off of the profits of the so called “rescue”?
I won’t put a nail in anyone’s coffin but just ask you to think about it, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck…
I just saw this. Are you talking about Elk Creek Ranch in Chester County, PA near Fair Hill? This is less than a mile from my farm. I’ve been there, but never looked for anything suspicious. No one is ever there when I’ve been there but I’ve never looked around.