Business As Usual

While all good rescues take care of injuries, none I know can afford ppes. That’s for the potential adopter to perform.

By the time a rescue, any rescue, quarantines the horse, shoes it and takes care of any injuries it comes with, even if that horse and every other sound horse in the rescue is adopted the day they’'re ready to go, those funds are not enough to support a herd of lame horses. Not even TRF has been able to come up with a business plan that will support unadoptable horses. Turning over sound horses as quickly as possible will support a rescue whose primary mission is to find new careers for tbs.

Rescues won’t survive if they don’t stay solvent and most have essentially the same business plan as sales barns.

I know exactly what it takes in terms of both time and money to go out and look at a horse, determine suitability, buy it, ship it home, give it the time it needs and then start the long process of retraining.

If the first steps of this process are going to be offered for free by any rescue, I can think of absolutely no reason it shouldn’t be offered to everyone. :confused: Most rescues tend to have “fixed rates” anyway.

If you want to avoid the hassle of dealing with Penn’s rules, get your horses at a tb rescue or through CANTER or Turning for Home.

New Vocations has an excellent educational record and has published a book, Beyond the Track, available to everyone. If Penn isn’t aware of this book, maybe you could make them aware.

[QUOTE=judybigredpony;5381113]
You are so missing the forest for the trees, Penn program had an opportunity to take the Best from every model and make this one shine. Plus adapt a no horse Left Behind Policy/Program. Which should include euthanasia

JL your horses were from DE a seasonal track where when it closes they either move South or to a new track. It was easier to give those sound horses to CANTER than move them on @ that moment in time. Plus you have Allie doing her new “Thing” in Carolina’s re-training and selling to the sports horse market. Something you yourself have been doing on a smaller scale succesfully. All of which is a super model. Bev Strauss has a tiptop program.
Turning For Home moves alot of horses.
So where do you propose all of the horses who are not eligable for Penn’s program go??
I have no clue?? But I can guess.
I already support 2 who have no futures as riding horses and 1 outstanding owner who pays for his horse to be retired. I have $$$ supported and found homes for a few and put some down. I have $$$ supported given alot away who needed that extra TLC to reslove issues before going to lesser stressful sports horse careers.
My financial resources come from the horses I do sell, there is no deep well of $$ here.
We all draw from the same supply pools, we all sell to pretty much the same narrow market.
It only makes good business sense to advertise, educate and expand your market and target. Educate and bring in new buyers and make it as easy as possible.

I have every intention of doing doing just that on a much smaller scale .!!![/QUOTE]

Most rescues do not sell their tbs for big money. From your other posts on this bb it sounds like your sales horses are very expensive and so I think you’re mistaken when you say “we all sell to pretty much the same narrow market”.

I don’t think JL or I have missed the forest for the trees or the trees for the forest. I’m sincerely confused about where you’re coming from and exactly where you’re trying to go. I agree with Laurierace, calling the program at Penn might be the most constructive step you could take.

This is a new program and I think its off to a good start, and will take some time to find its own way.

      There have been volunteer changes already, and most likely a lot more before everything settles into routine.

      There are huge horse needs at PN, which certainly can't be managed all at the same time -- and I'm sure the answers will come as the needs are addressed.

       Funding? well, a problem for everyone. Im sure as the horses are trained and restarted, they will be offered at very rerasonable prices -- and at prices the resellers can still tack their investement on top without pricing horses out of *their markets* reach. At least that creates another market to attract for new homes, right? 

       I think there's been good support between all the groups, and management to this point, and success is everyones goal and main objective --- with time, I'm sure the horses at PN will find their next careers just around the corner.

  Kudo's to all the efforts! >> I know there are a few very happy trainers already in the program, so the word is getting out.

Predictions

As you all know I like to make predictions, so why not make another one before Chronicle deletes me yet again.

Stephanie Beattie will not be training horses by Tax Day.

Todd Mostoller will not be the Executive Director of the HBPA-PA by July 1.

P.S. Whowearsthepants?

Hiya number III! :slight_smile:

Yay for Part III !

Once again we had a horse break down this morning and a rider taken away in an ambulance.

I know it’s just more “Business as Usual” but is this stuff happening on almost a daily basis really something people ought to be getting used to? Why are none of the PA tracks participants in the NTRA’s Safety and Integrity Alliance? Shouldn’t HBPA be trying to involve them in this worthwhile deal? Their non-participation even caused them to lose graded status on their very few stakes races.

Between the poor care taken of that track as well as the poor care taken of the horses things are looking better and better for the Gill lawsuit. Still no track superintendant:mad: Still no vet scratches:mad: Still no more arrests or anything productive coming about from the state police investigation:cry:

Reliable sources that I trust tell me Gill most definitely WILL be back too.

Time is long past due for a centralized governing body for racing.:yes:

[QUOTE=Profidia;5390639]
Once again we had a horse break down this morning and a rider taken away in an ambulance.

I know it’s just more “Business as Usual” but is this stuff happening on almost a daily basis really something people ought to be getting used to? Why are none of the PA tracks participants in the NTRA’s Safety and Integrity Alliance? Shouldn’t HBPA be trying to involve them in this worthwhile deal? Their non-participation even caused them to lose graded status on their very few stakes races.

Between the poor care taken of that track as well as the poor care taken of the horses things are looking better and better for the Gill lawsuit. Still no track superintendant:mad: Still no vet scratches:mad: Still no more arrests or anything productive coming about from the state police investigation:cry:

Reliable sources that I trust tell me Gill most definitely WILL be back too.

Time is long past due for a centralized governing body for racing.:yes:[/QUOTE]

Will this hurt their chances for NTRA safety accreditation? :rolleyes:
The whole industry is a joke. Broken to the core.

Memo to Neil Parker–harsh words have consequences.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/instant_pdf.cgi?type=inc&country=USA&track=PEN&date=2011-01-31&race=2

[QUOTE=On the Farm;5395187]
Memo to Neil Parker–harsh words have consequences.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/instant_pdf.cgi?type=inc&country=USA&track=PEN&date=2011-01-31&race=2[/QUOTE]

I don’t get it. It’s not like he had a barn full of stakes horses before he started this thread.

[QUOTE=Laurierace;5395256]
I don’t get it. It’s not like he had a barn full of stakes horses before he started this thread.[/QUOTE]

Look at the claim line. Hard to have a racing stable if one has no horses.

He got 4k for a horse that barely managed to beat one while going off at odds of 28-1 and you think that is a bad thing?

Well, I guess it would be a bad thing if you care about the horses and not the four grand. It is obvious they claimed that horse out of spite. It was coming off of a layoff and hasn’t been competitive in a long time. Now what will happen to the poor thing? This barn is accused of doing horrible things when the horse is no longer bringing in money. All they have done now is bring attention on themselves as I am sure everyone will be watching what happens to this horse…

[QUOTE=sjdressage;5395388]
All they have done now is bring attention on themselves as I am sure everyone will be watching what happens to this horse…[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Which means nothing bad will happen to the horse and they just got about $3500 more than the horse was worth.

It’s a bit like poking the bear, but what I found interesting was the name of the owner, surprised Penn would let that fly!

Scenario #1: The horse will win the next time out, someone will collect a lot of money on a horse going off at 28-1 and then we’ll never see the poor creature again.

Scenario #2: Unlikely but if new owners have any sense of irony the horse will be in the new Penn adoption program tomorrow

[QUOTE=Laurierace;5395395]
Exactly. Which means nothing bad will happen to the horse and they just got about $3500 more than the horse was worth.[/QUOTE]

Let’s revisit the horse’s worth after a couple starts in its new barn. The queen just got a fresh one with conditions.

The horse, Gator Fanatic, that broke down in the 9th race was reportedly wearing illegal shoes. blocks on the fronts.

Dr Pack stripped them, delivered them to the rac. sec…
now, how did they get by the paddock farriers inspection?
and why would the farrier put them on a racing horse.?

I would think a good many people have some serious explanations to make.
Lets see how this plays out, huh?

Compliments from Facebook

Mitzi Mouton Delahoussaye: (said)

" Don’t forget to say that I was offered $5,000 from the tag team if I would say I had Contrary !"
Yesterday at 6:39pm ·

HUH? Does that mean her husband offered her $5000 to say she’s had Contrary for over a year?

tag team = SB & FMIB