Business As Usual

[Profidia]

[QUOTE=sjdressage;5395388]
Well, I guess it would be a bad thing if you care about the horses and not the four grand. It is obvious they claimed that horse out of spite. It was coming off of a layoff and hasn’t been competitive in a long time. Now what will happen to the poor thing? This barn is accused of doing horrible things when the horse is no longer bringing in money. All they have done now is bring attention on themselves as I am sure everyone will be watching what happens to this horse…[/QUOTE] Can only hope so. Once was a time that if a small trainer had one ore two head in his barn nobody would claim it. Since honor has no place amongst the bottom feeders of that track this stuff happens all the time. When those folks get mad at one another they claim each others horses away from one another.

@Laurierace;5395395

Exactly. Which means nothing bad will happen to the horse and they just got about $3500 more than the horse was worth.

[QUOTE=SEPowell;5395437]Scenario #1: The horse will win the next time out, someone will collect a lot of money on a horse going off at 28-1 and then we’ll never see the poor creature again.

Scenario #2: Unlikely but if new owners have any sense of irony the horse will be in the new Penn adoption program tomorrow[/QUOTE] LMAO! This is the unfortunate side effect of claiming races. Even if a trainer decides to do what’s right by a horse, give one a rest that needs it and properly care for it, is all too often for somebody else’s benefit.

Being as that it’s pretty obvious what these people are up to, if I was Dickie I’d keep right on feeding them every no running dog meat I could find. I’d even go look for them at the sale barn just to let them claim them and laugh all the way to the bank. Two can play at these type of games too:yes:

[QUOTE=SwtVixen;5396852]The horse, Gator Fanatic, that broke down in the 9th race was reportedly wearing illegal shoes. blocks on the fronts.

Dr Pack stripped them, delivered them to the rac. sec…
now, how did they get by the paddock farriers inspection?
and why would the farrier put them on a racing horse.?

I would think a good many people have some serious explanations to make.
Lets see how this plays out, huh?[/QUOTE]
Oh come on Vixen, you know full good and well nothing will come of this. Have you ever seen a shoe get fixed by the Penn paddock blacksmith ever?

BTW there were two horses carted away in the horse ambulance that night. It would be comical if it wasn’t so disgusting.

[Dahoss]

If I had the funds, i’d support Dickie’s stable in a claim war. Maybe someone else could step up to the plate and put a little hurt on these people. Besides, im sure the horses would enjoy a reprieve.

[sjdressage]

They never check your shoes. The only time I have had shoes checked is when I ran on the turf at Delaware. They send a guy around so if you forgot to switch hind shoes there are no surprises when you get to the paddock.

I remember running in CA in the 90’s they checked shoes and also compared your horse to an actual photo, not just going by the markings.

[On_the_Farm]

[QUOTE=sjdressage;5399286]
They never check your shoes. The only time I have had shoes checked is when I ran on the turf at Delaware. They send a guy around so if you forgot to switch hind shoes there are no surprises when you get to the paddock.

I remember running in CA in the 90’s they checked shoes and also compared your horse to an actual photo, not just going by the markings.[/QUOTE]

Nope. SOP at Penn for a horse arriving in the paddock at Penn is to have his lip checked, followed by the blacksmith checking shoes.

[Profidia]

[QUOTE=On the Farm;5399934]
Nope. SOP at Penn for a horse arriving in the paddock at Penn is to have his lip checked, followed by the blacksmith checking shoes.[/QUOTE]
At Penn he’ll look at the near front on a couple of random horses. That’s it.

I asked what I did of Vixen for a reason. Rules of racing demand there be a paddock blacksmith at every pari-mutual track. He is there not as a potted plant but to fix shoes in the paddock if needed. I’ll ask again folks has anyone ever seen this happen at Penn?

[sjdressage]

Just saying…

I have run horses at Philly, Penn, Laurel, Charlestown and Delaware and have never had anyone pick up my horses foot to check a shoe. Unless they are looking as the horse is walking away, this procedure is not implemented.

[On_the_Farm]

[QUOTE=sjdressage;5400183]
I have run horses at Philly, Penn, Laurel, Charlestown and Delaware and have never had anyone pick up my horses foot to check a shoe. Unless they are looking as the horse is walking away, this procedure is not implemented.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the gray-haired guy who picke up a foot and checked shoes EVERY time one of my horses came to the paddock at Penn wasn’t a blacksmith then.

At least that’s the way it was from July-September in 2009.

[Dahoss]

[QUOTE=sjdressage;5400183]
I have run horses at Philly, Penn, Laurel, Charlestown and Delaware and have never had anyone pick up my horses foot to check a shoe. Unless they are looking as the horse is walking away, this procedure is not implemented.[/QUOTE]
C’mon let’s not go overboard here. Charlestown has a guy who checks “a” shoe before you lead the horse up the hill for them to check the tattoo. At Penn, the old guy and his wife comes around and does a not so thorough check of all horses at the receiving barn(not sure about the main barns) - the old guy(can’t recall his name) checks once again in paddock. Like I said these are not so thorough checkings but done nonetheless.

[SwtVixen]

Bert McQuire is the paddock blacksmith.

He checks every horse upon entering the paddocks after the tatoo check. He marks each horse off his program, and actually does this in front of the paddock vet.

On fixing shoes? well, Im not a fixture up there, but in my time there, no, I havent seen it.

Bert and Cindy do check the receiving barn, vet checks down there too.

Standard procedure.

[SwtVixen]

Charlestown, 3rd race. Saturday, Feb 5th…

Home Minister

Will she or wont she claim this horse?

[sjdressage]

Corrected

Ok, I stand corrected, ran a horse tonight at Charlestown and someone checked his near front shoe. Totally ironic. Have only run there once before. But, I still stand by my statement that until today, I haven’t had a shoe checked. Also, the vet there is very thorough. Last time I saw her scratch a few horses that needed to be scratched.

[Profidia]

[QUOTE=sjdressage;5401940]
Ok, I stand corrected, ran a horse tonight at Charlestown and someone checked his near front shoe. Totally ironic. Have only run there once before. But, I still stand by my statement that until today, I haven’t had a shoe checked. Also, the vet there is very thorough. Last time I saw her scratch a few horses that needed to be scratched.[/QUOTE]
They were making sure your front grab wasn’t too big. Hind shoes they can usually tell what horse is wearing by looking as your horse walks by. Horseshoe inspectors and paddock blacksmiths used to be two separate jobs. Some years ago most smaller tracks combined the duties onto the blacksmith as a money saving measure.

Question:
Since nobody has ever seen a horse get a shoe fixed in the Penn paddock has anyone ever seen a shoe board or shoe notes at that track?

[Profidia]

National Leader in Cancellations Again!

Once again the track was closed for training and racing will be canceled. Track maintenance people are saying the track might not be good to use till the end of next week

I understand they’ve been dumping truckloads of salt on it. Question is why wasn’t it touched at all until yesterday?

Can anybody say IMMEDIATE NEED FOR A TRACK SUPERINTENDENT!!!

[SwtVixen]

Question:
Since nobody has ever seen a horse get a shoe fixed in the Penn paddock has anyone ever seen a shoe board or shoe notes at that track?

 There used to be a shoe board in the racing office, just as you walked in ........ I havent actually looked there lately, but will next visit in.

  At Penn the condition book states that the horse neeeding paddock farrier care will have two choices....either shoes pulled or be scratched.

Update: Training and racing are also cancelled for Saturday. They are going to use Fridays card on Monday and toss Mondays entirely. NO word of chances for Sunday training.

Note: This is winter racing. It is what it is…the weather has been terrible, conditions on neighboring farms arent any better — hunting in Md is cancelled – trails are impossible to ride. I honestly dont think anyone could have saved the track …and in fairness, I hope that PN continues efforts to maintain year round racing — rather than the options such as Mountaineer took to close for 2 months.

[Profidia]

[QUOTE=SwtVixen;5402579]

There used to be a shoe board in the racing office, just as you walked in ........ I havent actually looked there lately, but will next visit in.[/QUOTE] It's still there but that's not the one I'm talking about. Go to NY or NJ or any other better class of track there is a shoe board in the paddock where sample shoes are hung before every race to a corresponding horse number to allow bettors to know what type shoe each horse is wearing. Places that have no shoe board post shoe notes on the tote board and on the simulcast screen. When a horse is wearing an aluminum pad, a mud caulk or a shoeing change is made it's reported to the betting public. If one comes in wearing a bar shoe it not only gets reported to the public but also is called in to the Daily Racing Form. Has any of this ever happened at Penn? I know Business as Usual:rolleyes:

Note: This is winter racing. It is what it is…the weather has been terrible, conditions on neighboring farms arent any better — hunting in Md is cancelled – trails are impossible to ride. I honestly dont think anyone could have saved the track …and in fairness, I hope that PN continues efforts to maintain year round racing — rather than the options such as Mountaineer took to close for 2 months.

Then how come Charles Town is racing? Maybe because they have a competent maintenance crew and a REAL Track Superintendent?

All area tracks have had the same weather. I just rode by Penn today and saw nothing getting done out there. Is no excuse for it. Business as Usual:rolleyes:

[Profidia]

[QUOTE=SwtVixen;5401867]
Charlestown, 3rd race. Saturday, Feb 5th…

Home Minister

Will she or wont she claim this horse?[/QUOTE]
Was scratched by stewards. WTF:confused:???

[Third_Glance]

On FB, jockey Clinton Potts just posted that Penn is canceling for most of this week; hopes to run on Friday. ???

[Laurierace]

Philly is closed too.

[Dahoss]

[QUOTE=On the Farm;5395187]
Memo to Neil Parker–harsh words have consequences.

http://www.brisnet.com/cgi-bin/instant_pdf.cgi?type=inc&country=USA&track=PEN&date=2011-01-31&race=2[/QUOTE]

I just found out from a very VERY reliable source that this wasnt just a revenge claim or done in spite geared towards Dickie, but also a WARNING to anyone else that may or might speak out against the actions of certain individuals, whether it may be from Team Beattie, Camp Gill or Penn National.

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This is where we are at in this unregulated industry.

[Profidia]

[QUOTE=Dahoss;5411179]
I just found out from a very VERY reliable source that this wasnt just a revenge claim or done in spite geared towards Dickie, but also a WARNING to anyone else that may or might speak out against the actions of certain individuals, whether it may be from Team Beattie, Camp Gill or Penn National.

[edit]

This is where we are at in this unregulated industry.[/QUOTE]
Not quite sure why this was edited but aside from that is there anyone in particular that this post was aimed at?

It’s well known how these folks operate. The thing I find most reprehensible is how people around that place tolerate it. I’ve never seen such a town full of cowards outside of the movie “High Noon”
Remember the only thing necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing.

I’d suggest instead of bullying and threatening people maybe their time would be better served trying to get their tractor unstuck:rolleyes:

BTW far be it from me to bring it to anyone’s attention but effective today no riding in the shedrows. Being caught on top of a horse in the shedrows will now get you a $500 fine and days.:yes: Gotta love that place!:lol: