[QUOTE=Little Hound;4659584]
. Are horses given better pre-race exams at Philly than at Penn? I doubt it. So you see, Dick is right, aside from the elite tracks, it’s business as usual pretty much all over.[/QUOTE]
The state vet (Dr. Goldblatt anyway) at Philly actually watches the horses jog, insists bandages be removed and will flex a horse if any thing doesn’ look right. I have yet to see the vet at Penn ask for more than a short jog.
[QUOTE=lily04;4660296]
The state vet (Dr. Goldblatt anyway) at Philly actually watches the horses jog, insists bandages be removed and will flex a horse if any thing doesn’ look right. I have yet to see the vet at Penn ask for more than a short jog.[/QUOTE]
The problem is the commission. If you have a track owner who spends more time writing letters to Governors to land more slots destinations and a Commission that turns the other way until a major event happens, why would anyone expect Penn to now institute pre-race exams? There is too much common sense involved to implement pre-race exams. Common sense is lacking in Harrisburg.
[QUOTE=DickHertz;4659886]
Others with issues at Penn, feel free to post your complaints as well.[/QUOTE]
You asked for it.:eek:
Why is there no vet on the grounds during the races?
Why are the stalls in the receiving barn wet and full of holes?
Whats with the dark,dirty portapotty at the receiving barn?
Why are there no lights on the horse path to guide you if you happen to win the last race?
I am guessing that the deep trench in the receiving barn shedrow is used to hide how sore a horse actually is.
Why does security leave as soon as the last horse gets Lasix?
Why are rulings not posted on the commission websight?
To be continued…
Why is there no vet on the grounds during the races?
Why are the stalls in the receiving barn wet and full of holes?
Whats with the dark,dirty portapotty at the receiving barn?
Why are there no lights on the horse path to guide you if you happen to win the last race?
Why does security leave as soon as the last horse gets Lasix?
Why are rulings not posted on the commission websight?
The answers to all of your questions above can be answered by calling or emailing Rob Marella.
717-469-2211
rob.marella@pngaming.com
I think I may have to resort to videotaping some things I see at Penn and posting on youtube for everyone to see. Wouldn’t that be a hoot…
Here is a question Lily, when is the last time any horseman saw Rob Marella walking on the backside or in the track kitchen?
I can improve on that Dickie,
1 positive= Disqualification in race, horse placed last, trainer immediately arrested, taken away in handcuffs, charged with attempting to alter the outcome of a horse race. (a felony) Additional drug charges and possibly animal cruelty charges can be added by an ambitious young prosecutor. No hearings with stewards, it should be turned over for criminal prosecution first thing. Failure to do so should bring charges against track management. Zero tolerance should mean exactly that. Those guilty should never be seen anywhere near a racetrack again. Not even on the frontside.
Ricky Frazier named on “Bank of Dad” for Adamo/Gill at Laurel on 2/6.
rob
i dont think you’ll see the commission just walking around without reason on the backside
Per Daily Racing Form from Wed 2/3 afternoon
Gill removing his horses from Penn National
Embattled Thoroughbred owner Michael Gill said Wednesday that the 40 or so horses he has had stabled at Penn National Race Course are being moved to his private farm as he continues to liquidate his stable, a process sparked by the controversy in which he has been embroiled in Pennsylvania since Jan. 23.
The commission ban does not preclude Gill from racing at Philadelphia Park, where his stable has been and will continue to be active for the foreseeable future. There have been no reports of major complaints about Gill from the Bensalem, Pa., track.
Gill, who does not have stalls at Philadelphia Park, said his entire stable is being consolidated at his 140-stall private training facility in Oxford, Pa., in the southeastern part of the state. Private farms do not fall under the jurisdiction of the commission.
Gill announced Monday that he intends to sell off all of his 100-plus Thoroughbreds and other racing-related holdings because of the latest controversy. He said Wednesday he already has sold “about 15, maybe more” of the horses since deciding to disperse.
“I’m just going to have the horses trained there at the farm, sell some, have some claimed, and just keep going until I don’t have any more,” he said, adding that anyone interested in his horses can contact his trainer, Tony Adamo.
ot sure thats the best idea BShoer
[QUOTE=brightskyfarm;4660673]
Nice idea, but, NoBSshoer ---- then there would be no one racing anymore
although, thats what it would take to (clean) up the sport.[/QUOTE]Nonsense! A couple examples would be all needed to bring everybody else into line.
To say you’ll never get all of them I’ll agree, but I see it as law enforcement sees crime. It’s like exterminating bugs. You may never get them all this is true, but you better dang sure try by spraying once in a while. If you don’t you’ll soon be overwhelmed.
If something isn’t done to try to purge the sport of scumbags from time to time they’ll choke the life out of it like a cancer.
I’ll also say that even if what you say was true, there are plenty of other folks outside the gate waiting to take their stalls. Is not a problem
I’m just going to have the horses trained there at the farm, sell some, have some claimed, and just keep going until I don’t have any more," he said, adding that anyone interested in his horses can contact his trainer, Tony Adamo.
Umm did my eyes decieve me or wasn’t that Adamo being escourted off Penn National today and understand Delyhoussie (OK I can’t spell it) was ejected as well…a more interesting tidbit was the racing Secretary at CT got a call informing him of the ejections???
Or was it a hallucination from reading this board one time to many??
Offers to buy his racing stock running @ Philadelphia Park for fair market value (not fire sale prices) were turned down to respected horseman.
But his rig that carries the horses to Fair Hill was not parked as usual in front of Weymouths barn this AM
I’m with NoBSshoer - No BSing around with this issue.
I agree that it would put some out of business, but does anyone really think it’s necessary for horses needing drugs to run to be out on the track.
I’ve heard that arguement before and it’s simply not true. Some would go and others would change their way of operating. Obviously it would re-structure the industry somewhat, but only for the better and what’s wrong with that.
If you truly stand up for the horses welfare they should not be using drugs at all - racing overseas, seems to run just fine without drugs.
That first ‘generation’ would feel the change, but after that practices and attitudes would change.
I’d like to see no drugs - nothing at all, not even lasix. It’s so much easier to have zero tolerance on all drugs, rather than allow certain levels - grey areas that provide plausible deniability.
[QUOTE=lovemyhusband;4660523]
Ricky Frazier named on “Bank of Dad” for Adamo/Gill at Laurel on 2/6.[/QUOTE]
I thought Frazier was one of the jockeys that was completely fed up with Gill? Heard he was still black-and-blue from the last spill! What’s up with this?
[QUOTE=Little Hound;4661001]
I thought Frazier was one of the jockeys that was completely fed up with Gill? Heard he was still black-and-blue from the last spill! What’s up with this?[/QUOTE]
$$$
Good News
Penn scratched a couple of horses tonight. One in the receiving barn upon arrival and one on the track in the post parade. In this case, change is a good thing. Way to go Penn ! It is not, Business as Usual at Penn National, tonight.
[QUOTE=NoBSshoer;4660481]
I can improve on that Dickie,
1 positive= Disqualification in race, horse placed last, trainer immediately arrested, taken away in handcuffs, charged with attempting to alter the outcome of a horse race. (a felony) Additional drug charges and possibly animal cruelty charges can be added by an ambitious young prosecutor. No hearings with stewards, it should be turned over for criminal prosecution first thing. Failure to do so should bring charges against track management. Zero tolerance should mean exactly that. Those guilty should never be seen anywhere near a racetrack again. Not even on the frontside.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree with strong penalties for bad tests, but this also brings up the topic of “trainer responsibility.” If someone else drugs one of my horses, I am the only one held responsible and I’m the one who is penalized. I don’t have a solution to this problem, just mention it as it as there are some of us who try to follow the rules and do what’s best for our horses and riders.
I’ve hired night watchmen to sit nights in my barn at the track before a Stakes race and was amazed to hear how many people walked through my barn during the night.
Video camara’s work well.
[QUOTE=D Murray;4660075]
So if someone buy’s a horse off gill and next week enters it a Penn, will the riders not ride against it? i haven’t read all the posts.[/QUOTE]
Hey Dave, think we’ll see Tony come back up here to train? I think he’d get anything except a warm reception if he had the stones to come back and hang his shingle out again.
Dee
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