California Chrome?

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If you really want to learn anything from people that are members here, you should make an effort to get to know them.

Before you behave so rudely and demand that your questions are answered pronto, with qualifications spelled out for you, do make the effort to read.

You have, so far, given no response to any questions that were asked of you.

Don’t expect to be spoon fed information on demand, not with that attitude.

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You do realize anybody can be a blogger? All you need is a device and access. And that the term “blogger” does not convey immediate respect because anybody can keep a Web Log. Whether they the use it as a Journal, Editorial Platform, Marketing Tool, Gossip Rag or Cick Bait.

Thing is real industry insiders don’t Blog as the real industry jobs they hold require NDAs and they would be ex industry insiders for sharing specifics on inside information. Some are marketing tools for horses they have care, custody and control of with owner consent. But they only talk about those horses, not anybidy else’s. And they edit what they chose to share.

Many Blogs are written by Handicappers, some are pretty good. But their purpose is to help gamblers pick the right horse in the right order in the right race to bet their money on. Some require a subscription. They don’t have any interest in the “private lives” of horses off the race track except published workouts.
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Just trying to explain why “ Industry Bloggers” is not adding any weight to argument here. Fact, anybody who actually owns a horse doesn’t want some random blogger posting their every action.

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Do you really care or are you trying to stir things up?

I really shouldn’t be giving you the time of day, (don’t feed the troll), but you really are an annoying piece of work, and I’m taking a break from cleaning the house after my SO and DD tracked dirt all over after coming home from taking care of our racehorses.

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rinny only seems to care about California Chrome, not TB racing or breeding. The only posts he/she has made since joining the COTH forums are about CC and his U.S. connections.

Hopefully he/she is not on facebook pestering the Japanese owners by demanding to know how much they paid for the horse.

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A great article about California Chrome and his appeal to the Japanese breeders:

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/why-california-chrome-so-appealing-japanese-breeders/

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@LaurieB thanks for this link. Very interesting read on why Japan was so interested in California Chrome. It does make sense why he would be attractive to Japan; both for type and pedigree.

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There was another article published shortly after the sale about the Japanese enthusiasm for the race record of C.C. and the absence of Sunday Silence in his pedigree. They have so many mares from that line. https://pastthewire.com/japan-boosts…h-new-imports/

Have you seen anything definitive about the state of Japanese horse racing since they announced that they were racing without spectators? I haven’t been looking.The NYT reports that the Japanese Prime Minister will declare a state of emergency soon.

I hope it’s a boon for Japan after all of the investment they have made (the bloodstock investment, not the state of emergency.) :o

They do have some potential sire power over there. Animal Kingdom, Eskenderya, Johannesburg, etc… It will be very interesting to see what they get. They have some very nice Kentucky bred mares too.

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This was a real good read! Thank you so much for posting!

You’re welcome. I’m glad you enjoyed it.

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Meh. The comments on that CC FB page just mirror Rabid Chromie comments eslewhere on FB - and some of the same people. Some completely and willfully ignorant or dense, some trying to help but being shot down, some worshiping Steve Coburn (why is he a hero all of a sudden?!). Some think that they could handle a breeding TB stallion and hug him and pet him and squeeze him and call him George. Oh - and stuff him with endless cookies while he benignly stood around in their backyard…

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I’m sorry, I did not know that you were asking me a question. The statement had a rhetorical ring to it. What was your question?

Good “Past the Wire article”. Take Charge Indy has a nice pedigree. He may take a little of the sting away from the sale of Super Saver to the Turkish interests.

lol! Thank you for this, but I laughed so hard I sneezed and maybe peed alittle. TG for no more stitches.

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Since this thread has been brought back up, California Chrome’s first runner, a 2yo filly named Butterfly Bars, finished 5th today in her first race in Russia.

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That’s nice. It’s early days yet. :slight_smile:

In what manner would Take Charge Indy make up for the loss of Super Saver to U.S. breeders?

I am torn. Clearly there are Chrome fans who suffer from “My Friend Flicka” syndrome and wouldn’t have half a clue on how to handle any horse, let alone a breeding stallion. They are all emotion and ignorance. On the other hand, people being fans of certain horses and getting a thrill out of visiting them still happens and we still need people to be enthusiastic about owing, riding and driving them.

But man, some of the fans are utterly without half a clue or an iota of good sense.

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I hate that they didn’t even give him a chance to succeed here. I remember Samuel Riddle turned down $1 million for Man O’ War back when the leading money earner’s winnings (his) was $100,000. He said a lot of men could have a million dollars but only one could have Man O’ War. Nowadays he’d be sold to the highest bidder in a heartbeat and only the Arabs and Japanese can pay top dollar. It’s just too bad that fans can’t even count on ever seeing him in person again (well unless he comes back here as an oldster). But the other part of me hopes he becomes the second Sunday Silence at stud just to show them their folly. :smiley:

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When it comes to California Chrome, there is always this mysterious group “they” who is blamed for his leaving the country. “they didn’t even give him a chance…” CC is a horse with a million disappointed, very vocal fans, people who all loved him more than anything else in the world. So think about this–if just 10% of those fervent fans had purchased a TB mare and paid CC’s $40,000 stud fee for the first few years, the horse would probably still be here. Instead “they” too chose not to give him a chance.

I was a fan of California Chrome when he was racing, but I felt the same way as many other breeders. He didn’t excite me as a stallion prospect (of which only 10% succeed at stud anyway). Rough estimate, it would cost me ~100k from time of breeding to get a foal of his to the racetrack at two. Why should I be expected to spend so much money on a horse that doesn’t thrill me when I can breed to one that does for less?

I wish CC well. Whether he succeeds or not is immaterial to me. He just wasn’t the horse for me (or a number of other breeders). I’m continually mystified why that is so hard for people to accept.

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