Cane Corso moved in 3 doors down (Townhouses) am I being unreasonably concerned?

[LauraKY]

[QUOTE=Sswor;7685374]
I don’t believe Dobermans make the top 10 on the bite list so they really aren’t even relevant to the conversation. I wish these conversations could stay on point because bringing up a breed like a Doberman or GSD is distracting. I’m not sure I have ever heard of a Doberman or a GSD killing an adult human. Sure these breeds can occasionally be aggressive, any dog can be aggressive, but not in the same realm as these mastiff/pit type dogs and they cannot inflict any where near the same type and level of injury per bite.

Mastiff/pit type dogs were specifically bred to be able to inflict serious damage and injury per bite. That’s the problem. So unless their breeders want to systematically breed out the powerful jaws and put more of a greyhound head/neck on these animals, I would argue that they serve no purpose in modern society within any incorporated residential area under any circumstances.[/QUOTE]

My cousin’s GSD practically tore the face off his 2 year old daughter. One hundred stitches to her face. Apparently they thought it was cute when she took his food away from him and pressed her face right up to the dog’s face.

The dog and the child paid for their stupidity.

[OneGrayPony]

My ex almost had his face bitten off by a lab - required quite a few stitches to reattach h his lip. Chained to a doghouse.

Anyway, so many people are stupid about their dogs and unfortunately it is always the dog that pays the price.

[Sswor]

My SIL’s daughter had her face nearly bitten off and developed epilepsy as a result of, by the extremely well bred, top bloodlines, ROM x a million, beloved house pet, raised with kids, show dog of her fellow Mastiff breeder/professional dog handler friend. SIL’s daughter wasn’t doing anything except sitting in the same car as this dog, returning home from one of afore-mentioned dog shows when it attacked her face, right in front of SIL and dog’s owner, IOW, fully witnessed as completely unprovoked.

Responsible owners have dogs who bite too. Because all dogs can bite and certain individual representatives of each breed and type will bite. Mastiff/pit type dogs will do massive damage when they bite.

I was bitten badly by a lab mix chained to a doghouse and the only thing that saved me was that it ran out of chain right after it knocked me flat attached by the teeth to my knee. If it had been a mastiff/pit type, I reasonably expect that it would have resulted in much worse then 6 stitches, even having the good fortune to fall just outside the chain’s reach.

My leashed 25lb dog was attacked by a loose JRT that came out of no where. If it had been a mastiff/pit type my dog would be dead instead of just needing surgery, a drain in his head, and antibiotics.

So yes, all dogs can bite. Not all can kill a mature adult male human. That’s the point.

[asb2517]

I guess I’m just feeling a little salty because yesterday my step uncle was at the farm. We recently acquired a super sweet pitbull that was basically abandoned by his idiot owner. The dog was just laying at my feet, sleeping. My step uncle says, “What kind of dog is that?” I said, “It’s a pitbull.” He says, “UGH. WHY would you get one of THOSE??? They are vicious.”

This coming from a guy that owns a yellow lab that the vet said to put down because he was so aggressive. I felt like saying, “Hmmm…the vet said she wished all dogs were as sweet and well behaved as Pete. What does the vet say about yours??”

It’s just frustrating that was his very first comment.

Still OP…I’d be concerned this dog was off leash and would definitely complain to your association. Like I said, it’s not the breed it’s the fact that the owner appears to think that rules don’t apply to them.

[Lilly]

[QUOTE=LauraKY;7685439]
My cousin’s GSD practically tore the face off his 2 year old daughter. One hundred stitches to her face. Apparently they thought it was cute when she took his food away from him and pressed her face right up to the dog’s face.

The dog and the child paid for their stupidity.[/QUOTE]

The dog should be trained not to guard his food, and I would think any reasonable person would say that dog’s reaction was tragically way over the top and inappropriate.

I wouldn’t have hesitated to put that dog down after that incident.

[Lilly]

[QUOTE=OneGrayPony;7685055]
I own dobermans. I do not own them because they are “bada$$”. I own them because they are THE most intelligent and loyal dogs that were not bred as attack dogs but rather as handler protection dogs (totally different mentality in the dog). My large male is terrified of thunderstorms, loves people and small children especially and is just a lovable doof. My female is a little sharper, but her favorite thing to do is to flip over in your lap for belly rubs.

Breed specific bias and legislation hurts dogs and dog owners. I have gotten guff from my neighbors including completely untrue stories (one lady claimed to have had one that turned on her as a child, but when questioned further had never owned a dobe) to people willingly petting the male (he is a fawn and looks like a weimaraner as they both have natural ears) until they know what he is and then freaking out and backing away when they find out his breed.

I don’t know much about Cane Corsos nor Presa Canerias, but I thought they were actually cattle dog purpose-bred. I could be 100% off on that.

Now, this guy has his dog off leash which is not good for any breed. That would be my problem, IMO. Unleashed dogs can provoke aggression from the leashed ones which can cause a fight.[/QUOTE]

Cane Corsos were bred to be catch cattle dogs and to hunt wild boar.

I think anyone who ignores a breed’s genetic tendencies is very naive. An individual of that breed may not have any of those traits, but those dogs will be in the minority.

Aggressive labs do not surprise me. Labs are so poplar and there has been a lot of bad breeding.

[LauraKY]

[QUOTE=Lilly;7685521]
The dog should be trained not to guard his food, and I would think any reasonable person would say that dog’s reaction was tragically way over the top and inappropriate.

I wouldn’t have hesitated to put that dog down after that incident.[/QUOTE]

Yes, but I think you missed the point. The parents were completely irresponsible. I just cringe when I see photos of kids pulling on a dog, shoving their face into their face,etc.

In the OP’s case, there seems to be another irresponsible owner who refuses to leash his dog.

[LauraKY]

[QUOTE=Lilly;7685540]
Cane Corsos were bred to be catch cattle dogs and to hunt wild boar.

I think anyone who ignores a breed’s genetic tendencies is very naive. An individual of that breed may not have any of those traits, but those dogs will be in the minority.

Aggressive labs do not surprise me. Labs are so poplar and there has been a lot of bad breeding.[/QUOTE]

They were bred to hunt boar and to guard. I’ve never heard they were bred to catch cattle dogs. They come from Italy…I’ve never heard of an Italian cattle dog. In any case, why would someone purpose breed a dog to catch another dog with a job?

[AllWeatherGal]

[QUOTE=gottagrey;7685254]
And yes AllWeatherGal I have contacted my HOA but haven’t heard back from them. I’m not sure what sort of enforcement they can do because the dog is not running loose around the neighborhood. It’s when he is out w/ the dog and it’s not on a leash so runs over to my dog.[/QUOTE]

If the CC&Rs say that dogs must be on a leash, then it doesn’t matter if the owner is w/the dog or not, if there’s no leash on the dog, he’s in violation.

If your HOA is like mine, it took a lot of persistence to get a response. That’s why I suggested going to a meeting.

I have no dog in the fight about breed bias or blindness.

[OneGrayPony]

I think she meant a cattle catch dog, which would be a cattle dog.

[Sswor]

Cattle catch=bull baiting. I doubt your typical modern livestock rancher has a need for a dog to grab his stock by the face.

[Lilly]

[QUOTE=Lilly;7685540]
Cane Corsos were bred to be catch cattle dogs and to hunt wild boar.

I think anyone who ignores a breed’s genetic tendencies is very naive. An individual of that breed may not have any of those traits, but those dogs will be in the minority.

Aggressive labs do not surprise me. Labs are so poplar and there has been a lot of bad breeding.[/QUOTE]

@LauraKY;7685709

They were bred to hunt boar and to guard. I’ve never heard they were bred to catch cattle dogs. They come from Italy…I’ve never heard of an Italian cattle dog. In any case, why would someone purpose breed a dog to catch another dog with a job?

They were bred to catch cattle, not cattle dogs. Since they would catch and pin cattle, they are called catch cattle dogs.

[Lilly]

[QUOTE=LauraKY;7685707]
Yes, but I think you missed the point. The parents were completely irresponsible. I just cringe when I see photos of kids pulling on a dog, shoving their face into their face,etc.

In the OP’s case, there seems to be another irresponsible owner who refuses to leash his dog.[/QUOTE]

No, I didn’t miss the point. The parents were irresponsible but that dog was likely untrained and also sounded like he was psycho. His response was very very aggressive and dangerous.

[OneGrayPony]

Cattle catch=bull baiting. I doubt your typical modern livestock rancher has a need for a dog to grab his stock by the face.

Not at all. There is still a need for a dog to actually catch and pin cattle…a quick Google search confirmed that.

[xeroxchick]

Hmm. Dogs do what they are genetically predisposed to do. Walking hound puppies taught me that.

[Bicoastal]

The breed bias goes both ways. These breeds (Canes, Presas, Mastiffs, Akitas) are now the cooler pitty for that type of owner. You know, the kind that is usually male, macho, ignorant, purchases from a byb, and instantly becomes an internet expert. Have a laugh, courtesy of Dog Snobs.

[OneGrayPony]

You know, it’s funny. I was walking my two dobermans yesterday and a very ill-behaved Goldie was lunging and attacking at the end of the leash, barking like a mad-man. Yet no one is afraid of that dog (for the record, my big Dobe made this groany noise because I wouldn’t let him bark, and my younger Dobe just spun in excited circles).

There’s a posted note around my neighborhood about someone with two shorthaired dogs, one of whom BIT a 6 year old and LEFT! I think I know who the woman is that walks them, and the dogs are Visla’s or some sort of other sighthound. I’m sure my paranoid neighbors are going to call me and I’m going to have to prove that I was on vacation during this dog bite sigh.

Bottom line is that people behave really stupidly with dogs. This guy sounds like a douche. The people who let their Cane’s attack MULTIPLE PEOPLE suck (I was reading the news articles, holy crap, talk about bad PEOPLE).

sigh

[gottagrey]

[QUOTE=Bicoastal;7688237]
The breed bias goes both ways. These breeds (Canes, Presas, Mastiffs, Akitas) are now the cooler pitty for that type of owner. You know, the kind that is usually male, macho, ignorant, purchases from a byb, and instantly becomes an internet expert. Have a laugh, courtesy of Dog Snobs.[/QUOTE]

Exactly and these are the types that perpetuate breed bias and also are the types that believe rules are for everyone but them…

PS - HOA management company is sending leash law letter to owner so we’ll see if that has any impact

[RacetrackReject]

[QUOTE=independentlyawesome;7685183]
:lol:

No. But I’d really like to see you find several dozen Labs who would fight each other. You’re more likely to end up with a cuddlepuddle.

It’s called breeding for specific traits. And that’s why the OP is justified to be a little wary of a breed known to have aggressive tendencies who is not being appropriately trained.[/QUOTE]

There have been truly vicious labs, and if you think they are all cuddle puppies, you are setting yourself up to be a victim. I have seen quite a few of them that are aggressive and I have known some that were pts because of their aggression. Give Labs the horrible owners that many pittie breeds have and you might have more.

Yes, they are not bred to be guardian dogs or livestock dogs like Canes and Presas, but just like any other breed, there are bad apples. I also see many breeds getting more aggressive over the years. I think this is mostly due to indiscriminate breeding and congenital health issues.

[OneGrayPony]

I think this is mostly due to indiscriminate breeding and congenital health issues.

I also think people are less intelligent about animals as we go forward.