meup, we will just have to agree to disagree, and I’m totally okay with that–I respect that you aren’t afraid to state your opinion and accept that we aren’t going to see eye-to-eye on this.
[QUOTE=suzy;7109099]
meup, we will just have to agree to disagree, and I’m totally okay with that–I respect that you aren’t afraid to state your opinion and accept that we aren’t going to see eye-to-eye on this.[/QUOTE]
I don’t understand what is “disagreeable” about holding the same standard of critiques regardless of 1.) who is doing the critiquing and 2.) who it is directed at.
You can say, “Everyone gets to fly off the handle and be as “blunt” as they want!” That is at least internally consistent.
Or you can say, “Everyone should make efforts to be fair and reasonable.” Also internally consistent.
But why it is important to you to preserve the option for SOME people to be as “blunt” as they want, but OTHER people should be fair and reasonable, is what I don’t get.
I am not arguing that critiquing the picture was ok. As I stated, I can see mitigating factors to why that photo may look worse than it was in real life. But CHS did not afford the rest of the trainer base in this country the same fairness. We got reamed. No mitigating factors for us. Oh well, people’s editors “let them down.”
[QUOTE=suzy;7109073]
Do you recall the thread in which a particular poster posted a video without the rider’s permission? Many of us thought, reasonably, it was up for review and critiqued it. It turns out that the rider had not given permission for the video to be posted and was understandably upset by our critiques. I felt terrible for being a part of it and apologized privately. I also made the conscious decision to not critique photos or videos unless the rider in the photo or video specifically asks for a critique. [/QUOTE]
And then you started one of my favorite threads ever. 
[QUOTE=grayarabpony;7108903]
There’s some serious chair seat going on with that saddle.[/QUOTE]
Good enough for Edward Gal good enough for me…Grayarab when you’ve trained the number of horses to GP that CH has maybe you can talk.
It is interesting that the farm from which the above pictures had the following just above them. “Clinics are generally held over a 2 to 3 day period, with clinicians covering both theory and practical experience with participants. Riders of all skill levels are encouraged to participate, and auditors are always welcome.”
I wonder how those riders after reading her blog…
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109110]
Good enough for Edward Gal good enough for me…Grayarab when you’ve trained the number of horses to GP that CH has maybe you can talk.[/QUOTE]
Huh? What does this have to do with ED gal. last time I checked he does not ride in aN elderly stubben. you and your other alter on this thread are nutz
…I feel the need to speak up briefly on behalf of the poor saddle.
While I’ve never ridden in the new Catherine Haddad version, the Stubben Schultheis is my absolute favorite saddle ever. It doesn’t help you one bit, but that makes it an awesome diagnostic tool and a great saddle to learn in (over time…I dunno what the point of whipping one out for a clinic is unless it is an equitation-focused clinic.) I don’t feel like it puts the rider in a chair seat, but it doesn’t mask a chair seat if your natural tendency is toward tight hips. That’s why I like it so much – other saddles that have more support just end up artificially straightening out my legs/hips at the expense of other areas like my lower back. They’re also awesome because there is nothing getting in your way as you adjust your position.
I don’t own one right now because my mare is weirdly shaped and I needed something that would fit her immediately, but I’m saving up to get an old schultheis or minimalist-style saddle to use on days when I want to specifically work on my equitation or for longe lessons or things like that. Or for all the time, if I can become a good enough rider to do so.
I think of it a little bit like a minimalist running shoe.
ok, sidebar over. Sorry!
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How do we even know that CHS is a great trainer of trainers? Any evidence of that? She says she is great at developing GP horses.
That is not the same thing.
I think the message would have been more credible if she had been more general in her comments rather than suggesting trainers need to come to HER.
Good lord. the ego.[/QUOTE]
Looks like she is a mirror for you Crockpot.
[QUOTE=Bristol Bay;7109107]
And then you started one of my favorite threads ever. :)[/QUOTE]
Haha. Was that the “I suck more than you” thread? Don’t actually remember the title, but it was in that vein.
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109110]
Good enough for Edward Gal good enough for me…Grayarab when you’ve trained the number of horses to GP that CH has maybe you can talk.[/QUOTE]
So, um, three, is it?
[QUOTE=Crockpot;7109116]
Huh? What does this have to do with ED gal. last time I checked he does not ride in aN elderly stubben. you and your other alter on this thread are nutz[/QUOTE]
You are crazy and a bully. Edward Gal rides in a chair seat as many have pointed out in the past. SIGH
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109110]
Good enough for Edward Gal good enough for me…Grayarab when you’ve trained the number of horses to GP that CH has maybe you can talk.[/QUOTE]
A chair seat isn’t good for anyone. Maybe until you figure that out you should shut up.
It would help if people on this forum could READ. Did you not note that I said there was serious chair seat going on with that saddle?
Edward Gal does not ride in such an exaggerated chair seat. Unless Totilas is doing one of those extensions where he doesn’t track up and looks like he’s pulling himself along with his front legs.
Looks like she is a mirror for you Crockpot.
YES indeed because I keep saying everyone should come and train with ME!!!
You have a big problem, spirittickle and you aren’t doing your idol any favors with your nasty posts.
Suzier, I think you might like the new version even better as CHS had Stubben address a few things she felt were less than ideal in the Schultheis–the really hard seat for one. This isn’t to say that the Biomex is exactly cushy but a lot cushier than its predecessor. BTW, disclaimer–I am not sponsored by Stubben and receive nothing–no $, no free saddles, nada–for promoting them. I don’t think the Genesis Special is ideal for everyone, but I love mine and Stubben offers a line of much cushier saddles. In a few years, I imagine that’s the direction I’ll go in.
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109124]
You are crazy and a bully. Edward Gal rides in a chair seat as many have pointed out in the past. SIGH[/QUOTE]
Ah, but has he ever said in a public venue that HE could fix ALL the trainers in the Netherlands?
And ya know, if he did say that, he has the stats to back it up. He has trained two handsful of horses to international GP, and done well. And when he didn’t win, he didn’t go back home and cry to his blog about how stupid and dumb and blind the judges were. At this point, I must reiterate that THAT, seemingly, is what Catherine Haddad Staller is most adept at.
Most people don’t mind blunt and forthright, as long as you’re RIGHT about what you’re saying.
I teach college English. Part of my teaching load is spent teaching in the “developmental studies” department, which means I teach students who can’t pass the placement test and have to take developmental courses prior to taking Freshman Composition. On many occasions, my colleagues have offered well-meaning sympathies about “having” to teach the developmental students. I simply shrug my shoulders and reply, “I love to teach. Period. I accept my students where they are when they come to me, and take them as far as I can in the time we have together. How is that any different than what you are doing in your classes?”
While that is my attitude, it doesn’t tend to extend to most of the faculty members in my department. It’s not surprising, given that many people who chose to obtain a doctorate degree in English do not choose that educational route because they have a passion to teach freshman composition courses. On any college campus (and in any environment where teaching/learning is part of the equation), there will be instructors who don’t want to work with lower level students. Those are the ones, in my opinion, who teach because it is a required part of their career, and not because they have any particular passion to do so. I work with one man who refuses to teach anything but upper level graduate courses. He considers anything less a “waste of his expertise.” His choice (and his loss, in my opinion).
When I read this article, I read the expression of an instructor who simply does not wish to teach lower level students. That’s her preference, and she’s entitled to it. As a student, I prefer to spend my time and money with instructors who appreciate me for where I am, and take me as far as they can in the time we have together. I’d much rather know up front if an instructor has a preference to not work with a student like me. So while this article could have been presented much better, she was at least being honest so that students and trainers can better choose whether or not they want to ride in her clinics.
Thankfully, I’ve found wonderful FEI level professionals who are happy to work with me and don’t feel it is a waste of their time and/or talent to help me learn and practice things that they can do without even thinking about them. They appreciate my time, money, and company as much as the next person who may ride circles around me. Thank God for those people in my life!
Sending out much love to my fabulous riding instructor today!!
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Haha. Was that the “I suck more than you” thread? Don’t actually remember the title, but it was in that vein.[/QUOTE]
The Suzy roast!
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?402276-The-Suzy-Roast-is-in-Session!
[QUOTE=grayarabpony;7109126]
A chair seat isn’t good for anyone. Maybe until you figure that out you should shut up. :)[/QUOTE]
Are you 12? Telling people to shut up. Ok why don’t you write CHS and Edward Gal and tell him he can’t ride because they both ride in what many call a chair seat. Try growing up. Again when you’ve trained horses to GP you can say they suck.
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109143]
Are you 12? Telling people to shut up. Ok why don’t you write CHS and Edward Gal and tell him he can’t ride because they both ride in what many call a chair seat. Trying growing up. Again when you’ve trained horses to GP you can say they suck.[/QUOTE]
Why do you insist on putting Haddad and Gal in the same category? Are you KIDDING ME?!?!
many years (mid 60s) as a pony clubber I was fortunate to get to ride in clinics with Mr. DeNemethy. I would watch him teach these old ladies (I am sure I would not consider them old now) how to post the trot. Later they would bring him sandwiches and tea on silver platters. We all learned something.
