Gal may ride in a chair seat sometimes, but I’ve never seen him wipe the saddle with his @$$ at every stride.
Feeling a tad marish today, ladies? :eek:
[QUOTE=lizathenag;7109146]
many years (mid 60s) as a pony clubber I was fortunate to get to ride in clinics with Mr. DeNemethy. I would watch him teach these old ladies (I am sure I would not consider them old now) how to post the trot. Later they would bring him sandwiches and tea on silver platters. We all learned something.[/QUOTE]
Ah, civility! 
How refreshing!
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Gal may ride in a chair seat sometimes, but I’ve never seen him wipe the saddle with his @$$ at every stride.[/QUOTE]
How many horses have you trained to GP?
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109156]
How many horses have you trained to GP?[/QUOTE]
None!
AND, coincidentally, I’m also not a trainer. Which is what her article was about.
Why a self-proclaimed expert at bringing along GP horses thinks she’s ALSO expert at teaching trainers is beyond me.
Gal may ride in a chair seat sometimes, but I’ve never seen him wipe the saddle with his @$$ at every stride.
or do that weird up down yanky jiggy thing with the hands…
I suck way more of course but no one disrespects me by paying me $3oo to ride with me! haha
Ed gal has way more class than the slug baiter.
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109143]
Are you 12? Telling people to shut up. Ok why don’t you write CHS and Edward Gal and tell him he can’t ride because they both ride in what many call a chair seat. Try growing up. Again when you’ve trained horses to GP you can say they suck.[/QUOTE]
You’re being very childish and spiteful.
I don’t need to have trained a horse to Grand Prix to know when a horse is through, and correct, and relaxed, and forward. Your sort of prattle is what ruins forums for conversation.
[QUOTE=Kadenz;7109158]
None!
AND, coincidentally, I’m also not a trainer. Which is what her article was about.
Why a self-proclaimed expert at bringing along GP horses thinks she’s ALSO expert at teaching trainers is beyond me.[/QUOTE]
Do you know her? Have you seen her teach? Have you seen her train? If you can’t answer these three questions with at least one yes maybe you don’t know at should listen those that have. Go watch her videos on dressage training online you don’t have to like her to see she is gifted at teaching.
[QUOTE=grayarabpony;7109161]
You’re being very childish and spiteful.
I don’t need to have trained a horse to Grand Prix to know when a horse is through, and correct, and relaxed, and forward. Your sort of prattle is what ruins forums for conversation.[/QUOTE]
Really are you serious…LMAO You tell me to shut up and you are telling me I’m childish and spiteful. Thank you for making my day. If you don’t think CHS has trained nice horses and done well you don’t know what you are looking at!!!
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109165]
Do you know her? Have you seen her teach? Have you seen her train? If you can’t answer these three questions with at least one yes maybe you don’t know at should listen those that have. Go watch her videos on dressage training online you don’t have to like her to see she is gifted at teaching.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I’ve seen her videos. Enough to know that, were she still in my area, I’d never waste my money riding with her.
I like to train with people who, when I see photos or videos of them riding, I think to myself “I’d like to look like that”
Never thought that about a single thing of hers that I’ve seen.
I also vastly disagree with some of her saddle-fit “theories” (along with two very well-known saddlefitters, who also disagree with her). I get the feeling that there are a LOT of things she considers herself an “expert” at, and that she’s not quite as expert as she thinks she is.
So, no thanks. I just wonder what she’s done that makes HER think she’s qualified to “fix” all these piss-poor excuses for trainers we apparently have in the United States.
Are you 12? Telling people to shut up. Ok why don’t you write CHS and Edward Gal and tell him he can’t ride because they both ride in what many call a chair seat. Try growing up. Again when you’ve trained horses to GP you can say they suck.
Do you really think your idol and ed gal are in the same stratosphere?
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109168]
If you don’t think CHS has trained nice horses and done well you don’t know what you are looking at!!![/QUOTE]
So apparently you and Catherine Haddad Staller are the two people in the world who are surprised to hear that NOT EVERYONE thinks she’s the greatest dressage trainer in the world, or even in the U.S. right now.
Surprise, surprise!
I once leased a horse with a trainer who was not a good match for me. It was all about her, and when it was over between us, she chewed me out so bad that I felt cursed. She said horrible things to me that amounted to telling me I should never ride again. As it was happening (this was a 20 minute harangue) I remember thinking, “She is trying to destroy my ego about riding.” Her words haunted me for years.. Apparently, I was not alone, because the owner of the horse I leased eventually parted ways with her under similar circumstances.
You guys are doing the same to Ms. Staller. She said one thing, that trainers who recruited their beginner students to fill a clinic when they lacked the basics and therefore were doing their students and Ms. Staller a disservice, which starting with the OP was misinterpreted as her being too stuck up the teach beginners.
This whole thread is middle school and you guys are a pack of mean girls. You won’t quit until you have destroyed every idea CHS has about her accomplishments as a rider or as a trainer.
You don’t like what she said or how she said it. So what? You’re going to take her down for that?
[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109156]
How many horses have you trained to GP?[/QUOTE]
How many have you trained to GP?
Run, Bristol, Run! :lol:
Oh, I highly doubt that.
If the rabid words of us snails penetrates the hallowed grounds of the USET HQ I’ll eat my shorts.
Here’s how it is done professionally, people-
[QUOTE=Eclectic Horseman;7109192]
Here’s how it is done professionally, people-
http://www.neda.org/events/event_details.asp?id=344192[/QUOTE]
Now THAT seems like a well-thought-out plan for increasing the level of effectiveness of American dressage trainers. And it’s targeting trainers local to the area, so no crazy cross-country travel is required. Sounds like a great idea!
[QUOTE=Bristol Bay;7109184]
I once leased a horse with a trainer who was not a good match for me. It was all about her, and when it was over between us, she chewed me out so bad that I felt cursed. She said horrible things to me that amounted to telling me I should never ride again. As it was happening (this was a 20 minute harangue) I remember thinking, “She is trying to destroy my ego about riding.” Her words haunted me for years.. Apparently, I was not alone, because the owner of the horse I leased eventually parted ways with her under similar circumstances.
You guys are doing the same to Ms. Staller. She said one thing, that trainers who recruited their beginner students to fill a clinic when they lacked the basics and therefore were doing their students and Ms. Staller a disservice, which starting with the OP was misinterpreted as her being too stuck up the teach beginners.
This whole thread is middle school and you guys are a pack of mean girls. You won’t quit until you have destroyed every idea CHS has about her accomplishments as a rider or as a trainer.
You don’t like what she said or how she said it. So what? You’re going to take her down for that?[/QUOTE]
Oh please. Here’s that COTH melodrama/ we’re so gosh durn important thing rearing its ugly head again.
Personally I hate the attitude of teachers who feel above teaching someone who paid them to do it, because such an attitude depresses me, and it’s bad for the sport of dressage.
[QUOTE=meupatdoes;7109105]
I don’t understand what is “disagreeable” about holding the same standard of critiques regardless of 1.) who is doing the critiquing and 2.) who it is directed at.
You can say, “Everyone gets to fly off the handle and be as “blunt” as they want!” That is at least internally consistent.
Or you can say, “Everyone should make efforts to be fair and reasonable.” Also internally consistent.
But why it is important to you to preserve the option for SOME people to be as “blunt” as they want, but OTHER people should be fair and reasonable, is what I don’t get.
I am not arguing that critiquing the picture was ok. As I stated, I can see mitigating factors to why that photo may look worse than it was in real life. But CHS did not afford the rest of the trainer base in this country the same fairness. We got reamed. No mitigating factors for us. Oh well, people’s editors “let them down.”[/QUOTE]
Meup, you have a tendency in your posts to go off in different directions and try to tackle too many topics at once, so I’m not always clear what your specific question is, so here is my best attempt at answering what I think your question is.
I’m okay with blunt. In an earlier post, I made the distinction between “blunt” and “rude.” IMO, CHS is blunt. Other people believe she is “rude.” I think you are among them, and it’s doubtful there’s anything I can say that will change your mind (nor is that my mission in life), so this is why we have to agree to disagree, okay? No harm, no foul; it’s just what it is.
P.S. YOU did not “get reamed” unless you are one of those trainers who can’t teach the basics. If you are secure in your own knowledge and ability to convey it to others, you have nothing to worry about.
