Catherine Haddad's latest editorial

[ToN_Farm]

[QUOTE=LAMA Rider;7109535]
This is heartbreaking to me. I joined this forum specifically to respond to this post and the others regarding this photo. You do not have permission to use it. I can only assume that you chose it to paint CHS, the rider, and/or her saddle in a poor light. It is a moment in time as clearly revealed by the other photos. While you may have specifically been referencing the saddle as the cause, posting this opened up another line of discourse that is both negative and hurtful. Please do the right thing and remove the post and apologize.

I board my old schoolmaster at this stable. He has gone in clinics with CHS with another rider and the three of us (horse included) have zero complaints. In fact, we only have positive things to say. Regarding the saddle, I have ridden in a similar one for over ten years - yes, it can be tough to keep a perfect position in 100% of the time - but they are invaluable for developing an effective seat. That’s something that I don’t feel our more ‘modern’ saddles promote.

In sum, if I may be so bold as to speak for this rider, please remove the photo.[/QUOTE]
I am sorry I hurt you. I apologize for not thinking before posting. I will try to remove the post, but since I have been quoted a couple times, it may still remain.

[wcporter]

[QUOTE=ToN Farm;7109650]
I am sorry I hurt you. I apologize for not thinking before posting. I will try to remove the post, but since I have been quoted a couple times, it may still remain.[/QUOTE]

you can talk to the Mods…they can take care of it.

[Bristol_Bay]

[QUOTE=ToN Farm;7108593]
This post which had a photo a rider in a clinic with CH has been removed because it was inappropriate of me to post it. I only meant to discuss the saddle not the rider.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RubyTuesday;7108673]Looks like my 1971 Stubben Parzival VSD has an evil twin out there, albeit with a considerable amount less of flocking than when I sent it out into the big, wide world…

Yes, I have followed the thread and heard she used a Stubben, not a Parzival. But the similarity in appearance remains.

Perhaps the person over on Off Course trying to sell her older saddle/s might want to contact this clinician.

As for me and my house, we will stick with our Albions. Clinicians can love them or hate them. Don’t care. My back injury loves them and that’s one of the two things that really matter.[/QUOTE]

@carolprudm;7108720

That looks painful

@grayarabpony;7108903

There’s some serious chair seat going on with that saddle.

[QUOTE=LAMA Rider;7109535]This is heartbreaking to me. I joined this forum specifically to respond to this post and the others regarding this photo. You do not have permission to use it. I can only assume that you chose it to paint CHS, the rider, and/or her saddle in a poor light. It is a moment in time as clearly revealed by the other photos. While you may have specifically been referencing the saddle as the cause, posting this opened up another line of discourse that is both negative and hurtful. Please do the right thing and remove the post and apologize.

I board my old schoolmaster at this stable. He has gone in clinics with CHS with another rider and the three of us (horse included) have zero complaints. In fact, we only have positive things to say. Regarding the saddle, I have ridden in a similar one for over ten years - yes, it can be tough to keep a perfect position in 100% of the time - but they are invaluable for developing an effective seat. That’s something that I don’t feel our more ‘modern’ saddles promote.

In sum, if I may be so bold as to speak for this rider, please remove the photo.[/QUOTE]

LAMA Rider, any forum member can send send a private message to the moderators asking them to remove the links to that photo.

Wasn’t it Rosemary’s Baby that had a reference to a book called Witches All?

[LAMA_Rider]

[QUOTE=ToN Farm;7109650]
I am sorry I hurt you. I apologize for not thinking before posting. I will try to remove the post, but since I have been quoted a couple times, it may still remain.[/QUOTE]

Thank you! It is very much appreciated. I have asked the moderators (hopefully correctly) to remove the other links.

[retreadeventer]

I LOFF the dressage forum. I have a couple of new books downloaded to my Kindle but this is WAY more interesting to read!
My first thought, after reading that blog post, was, “I have to get me over to the Dressage Forum, and see what they are saying about THIS,” and this thread certainly did not disappoint!
I wonder if trainers in other disciplines - show jumping, eventing, perhaps reining – had this attitude. What a mess the whole state of riding in the U.S. might be. Why, none of us can ride! What the hell!

[RubyTuesday]

I am wondering if all the clicking on this thread is generating income off the ads…just sayin’, since I think everything else has been said.

[RubyTuesday]

[QUOTE=retreadeventer;7109783]
I LOFF the dressage forum. I have a couple of new books downloaded to my Kindle but this is WAY more interesting to read!
My first thought, after reading that blog post, was, “I have to get me over to the Dressage Forum, and see what they are saying about THIS,” and this thread certainly did not disappoint!
I wonder if trainers in other disciplines - show jumping, eventing, perhaps reining – had this attitude. What a mess the whole state of riding in the U.S. might be. Why, none of us can ride! What the hell![/QUOTE]

I would bet that there are those in other disciplines, yes.

[Gestalt]

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[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=ponypappy;7109546]
Congratulations Catherine on your recent Grand Prix win, touted as a great success in your recent article. Maybe next time you can ride in a class that has more than one rider. Talk about celebrating mediocrity, lets not break out the champagne quite yet![/QUOTE]

Another thing that struck me as odd was a comment Catherine made about one of her other horses, Hotmail, who will be making a “GP debut”. I looked up the horse on Centerlinescores.com and he’s already been out at GP, way back in January. Why is she talking in her blog about making a “debut” later this season when she already had the horse at GP?

[SaddleFitterVA]

I decided to just post some of the reasons why an amateur rides in clinics in my blog.

http://work2rideandfarm.wordpress.com/2013/08/06/the-working-amateur/

I listed some of the people I’ve ridden with on my path to turning into a dressage rider. I was (am?) that terrible rider with no basics, but there was no trainer to blame.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;7109828]
Another thing that struck me as odd was a comment Catherine made about one of her other horses, Hotmail, who will be making a “GP debut”. I looked up the horse on Centerlinescores.com and he’s already been out at GP, way back in January. Why is she talking in her blog about making a “debut” later this season when she already had the horse at GP?[/QUOTE]

Umm maybe she meant at a CDI:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Next

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109882]
Umm maybe she meant at a CDI:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::D[/QUOTE] Next

[SnicklefritzG]

^^^I don’t think so because this is what she said:
“Hotmail (extraordinaire!) continues his onward storm toward his Grand Prix debut with me in August.”

She said “Grand Prix”, not CDI…

[Winding_Down]

[QUOTE=retreadeventer;7109783]
I LOFF the dressage forum. I have a couple of new books downloaded to my Kindle but this is WAY more interesting to read!
My first thought, after reading that blog post, was, “I have to get me over to the Dressage Forum, and see what they are saying about THIS,” and this thread certainly did not disappoint!
I wonder if trainers in other disciplines - show jumping, eventing, perhaps reining – had this attitude. What a mess the whole state of riding in the U.S. might be. Why, none of us can ride! What the hell![/QUOTE]

So do I! While we eventers are hands down the most entertaining in so many ways, these dressage people win the prize for wit, insight, and being true bada$$es when it comes to their disagreements. No regumate for them!

Someday, I will come over from the dark side, see the light, and be one of them… I figure I have at least two more concussions in the bank before I move (roll) over.

I will then be Winding Up.

[Winding_Down]

Btw, retreadeventer, I have NOT seen this attitude in clinics in eventing. I also think that event trainers on average, don’t take themselves quite as seriously as do the dressage trainers. Many exceptions, on both sides, of course!

Our clinics tend to be very entertaining, in a more slap stick sort of way. People fall off, horses bolt and run amok, and all sorts of drama.

I’m more likely to see a clinician annoyed by a rider who is late (shame!), interrupts or doesn’t follow directions. I’ve not seen one annoyed by poor or uneducated riding, as long as the rider is trying.

Of course, CH may not have appeared to be annoyed, although she clearly was.

[kande04]

[QUOTE=meupatdoes;7108815]
It is completely unnecessary to tell a student all -or even ANY- of the things they are doing wrong. It is possible to teach an entire lesson without ever saying one single negative thing.[/QUOTE]

Finally! Someone who actually gets it. Now if everyone could just learn how to apply that to posting their opinions!

Telling someone what they’re doing wrong just creates negativity and leaves a student guessing about what they should be doing. Just think how CH’s thoughts would have been received if she’d left out the negativity and talked about the solutions she had in mind. There are better ways to create controversy and attract attention without coming across as arrogant and offensive, which I think she may get now.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;7109891]
^^^I don’t think so because this is what she said:
“Hotmail (extraordinaire!) continues his onward storm toward his Grand Prix debut with me in August.”

She said “Grand Prix”, not CDI…[/QUOTE]

At that level it’s kind of implied. Was the one in January a CDI, I don’t think so and I’m pretty sure the one in August will be… I’d bet that is what she means but if I’m wrong I will happily admit it.

[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7110049]
At that level it’s kind of implied. Was the one in January a CDI, I don’t think so and I’m pretty sure the one in August will be… I’d bet that is what she means but if I’m wrong I will happily admit it. :)[/QUOTE]

The point is she said the horse was making a debut at Grand Prix later this year. It has already been out at Grand Prix. Whether it was or wasn’t a CDI doesn’t matter in this instance since Catherine did not make the distinction. She merely said “Debut at Grand Prix”.

[anon68314200]

[QUOTE=2tempe;7109112]
It is interesting that the farm from which the above pictures had the following just above them. “Clinics are generally held over a 2 to 3 day period, with clinicians covering both theory and practical experience with participants. Riders of all skill levels are encouraged to participate, and auditors are always welcome.”

I wonder how those riders after reading her blog…[/QUOTE]

I was also wondering if this farm was thus qualified as one of the places CHS was criticizing in her blog? Did they do “wrong” by CHS when they encouraged “riders of all skill levels to participate?”

[anon68314200]

[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7109165]
Do you know her? Have you seen her teach? Have you seen her train? If you can’t answer these three questions with at least one yes maybe you don’t know at should listen those that have. Go watch her videos on dressage training online you don’t have to like her to see she is gifted at teaching.[/QUOTE]

Um… yeah… but… significant space in the blog was allotted to how CHS ought not be bothered with the ‘lesser’ task of teaching the less skilled riders.