Catherine Haddad's latest editorial

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;7110054]
The point is she said the horse was making a debut at Grand Prix later this year. It has already been out at Grand Prix. Whether it was or wasn’t a CDI doesn’t matter in this instance since Catherine did not make the distinction. She merely said “Debut at Grand Prix”.[/QUOTE]

Do you not see the craziness of this post.

If you have an understanding of riders at that level the distinction is implied. Again if the one in January was a CDI I will stand corrected. Maybe it’s something you should try doing?? I get you don’t like how she said things but now you are just picking her a part. Kind of like what a hyena does with the left over lion kill.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=Isabeau Z Solace;7110057]
Um… yeah… but… significant space in the blog was allotted to how CHS ought not be bothered with the ‘lesser’ task of teaching the less skilled riders.[/QUOTE]

A less skilled rider would be me, someone coming from the jumper world in her younger days but I do know how to sit the trot and put a horse in a frame without see-sawing the bit. I think CH would be fine with teaching me in a clinic. What she is talking about is teaching people that in her eyes don’t know how to ride yet because they don’t have the basics down. It is so sad that people think she’s talking about all AA’s and that is so not the case.

[Spiritwalker]

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[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=Isabeau Z Solace;7110057]
Um… yeah… but… significant space in the blog was allotted to how CHS ought not be bothered with the ‘lesser’ task of teaching the less skilled riders.[/QUOTE]

and not to mention the fact that when she refers to the trainers she says “I can’t teach them all”, as if she’s the only trainer in the US who is capable of training the trainers. Now that may not have been what she meant, but it comes across that way.

[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7110066]
A less skilled rider would be me, someone coming from the jumper world in her younger days but I do know how to sit the trot and put a horse in a frame without see-sawing the bit. I think CH would be fine with teaching me in a clinic. What she is talking about is teaching people that in her eyes don’t know how to ride yet because they don’t have the basics down. It is so sad that people think she’s talking about all AA’s and that is so not the case.[/QUOTE]

You know what is so sad? That she went to a good college, trained for many years in one of the best countries for dressage and she comes back wanting to make changes and doesn’t have the marketing skills to avoid ticking people off.

[suzy]

[QUOTE=ponypappy;7109546]
Congratulations Catherine on your recent Grand Prix win, touted as a great success in your recent article. Maybe next time you can ride in a class that has more than one rider. Talk about celebrating mediocrity, lets not break out the champagne quite yet![/QUOTE]

I was not going to post again on this thread, but I’m sorry. I can’t let this one go without comment. First of all, we as competitors have NO control over the number of horses entered in a class. Secondly, you never mentioned her score. If it was a 55, then yea, probably she shouldn’t make too big a deal of it. However, you don’t even mention the score.

[paulaedwina]

Erm, don’t ya’ll think everything’s been said? I mean it’s 38 pages and people are starting to repeat themselves alot.

Just sayin?

Paula RGS

[SnicklefritzG]

[QUOTE=suzy;7110077]
I was not going to post again on this thread, but I’m sorry. I can’t let this one go without comment. First of all, we as competitors have NO control over the number of horses entered in a class. Secondly, you never mentioned her score. If it was a 55, then yea, probably she shouldn’t make too big a deal of it. However, you don’t even mention the score. Finally, just getting out at GP is a huge accomplishment.[/QUOTE]

Well what Catherine should have done then is say, “Horse so and so had a very successful outing at Grand Prix with a score of X!”

If I were just one person in a class, I wouldn’t go around talking about “winning” no matter who I was or what the level. I figure people would be smart enough to look up the show results and see I was the only person and then I would look kind of silly for making comments like that.

[grayarabpony]

[QUOTE=Bristol Bay;7109693]
LAMA Rider, any forum member can send send a private message to the moderators asking them to remove the links to that photo.

Wasn’t it Rosemary’s Baby that had a reference to a book called Witches All?[/QUOTE]

BB, you left out my second post regarding said link to picture. Your post is also rather witchy.

I used to have a Wintec that put me in a chair seat – the stirrup bars were too far forward, simply put.

If people would quit quoting me and then assigning different meanings than what I actually wrote I’d happily stop posting here. :mad:

[Jealoushe]

Having trouble understanding where the line of “good enough” for her is. She is saying the riders couldn’t hold he reins or sit the trot. I can do both these things and ride comfortable at second level on my event horse but I get the feeling I would still be deemed as not good enough in her eyes.

Was she talking beginners? Or just mortals…

[suzy]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;7110085]
Well what Catherine should have done then is say, “Horse so and so had a very successful outing at Grand Prix with a score of X!”

If I were just one person in a class, I wouldn’t go around talking about “winning” no matter who I was or what the level. I figure people would be smart enough to look up the show results and see I was the only person and then I would look kind of silly for making comments like that.[/QUOTE]

Snicklefritz, in dressage the score is far more important than the placing because the judges are judging against a standard not one horse/rider against another. I did look up CHS’s scores on Hotmail. I couldn’t find the most recent show, but her Florida scores range from 65.745 to 73.816. Four tests at I2 and one at GP version B. Most of her scores were high 60s and low 70s. Okay, maybe those scores don’t impress you, but they do impress me. Editing to say–although you probably know this–the shows in Florida are highly competitive.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=Jealoushe;7110087]
Having trouble understanding where the line of “good enough” for her is. She is saying the riders couldn’t hold he reins or sit the trot. I can do both these things and ride comfortable at second level on my event horse but I get the feeling I would still be deemed as not good enough in her eyes.

Was she talking beginners? Or just mortals…[/QUOTE]

You even posted what she said and you said you could do those two things so if you still feel not good enough that is your own insecurities. We all have them but it is our responsibility to deal with them.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;7110085]
Well what Catherine should have done then is say, “Horse so and so had a very successful outing at Grand Prix with a score of X!”

If I were just one person in a class, I wouldn’t go around talking about “winning” no matter who I was or what the level. I figure people would be smart enough to look up the show results and see I was the only person and then I would look kind of silly for making comments like that.[/QUOTE]

You sure are so full of “should have”. I do agree it is odd to say you won a class when you had no one to compete against but are we going to tear her down for everything she says. I also understand what Susy is saying about the score. OMG people you’ve made your point.

[Jealoushe]

[QUOTE=Spiritwalker;7110111]
You even posted what she said and you said you could do those two things so if you still feel not good enough that is your own insecurities. We all have them but it is our responsibility to deal with them.[/QUOTE]

Those aren’t insecurities…! I just did a clinic with one of the worlds best event riders who I idolized since I was a kid, I don’t think I would have done that if I was insecure about my riding

I was using myself as an example to get a better idea of the level of rider she is taking about, that’s all!

[suzy]

Jealoushe, I won’t put you through the painful process of reading through 38 pages of posts. I’ll just cut to the chase. Catherine observed at her clinic that a number of students who had been taking lessons for years from their regular instructors did not have solid basics–could not sit the trot, could not maintain a steady contact. She was not frustrated with them, she was disappointed that they are not getting satisfactory training. The onus is on the trainers, not the students.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=SnicklefritzG;7110075]
You know what is so sad? That she went to a good college, trained for many years in one of the best countries for dressage and she comes back wanting to make changes and doesn’t have the marketing skills to avoid ticking people off.[/QUOTE]

I have to disagree, if she had simply stated it with all the sweetness in the world her blog would have gone unnoticed. Yes she has ticked people off but she also has energized many.

[Spiritwalker]

[QUOTE=Jealoushe;7110116]
Those aren’t insecurities…! I just did a clinic with one of the worlds best event riders who I idolized since I was a kid, I don’t think I would have done that if I was insecure about my riding

I was using myself as an example to get a better idea of the level of rider she is taking about, that’s all![/QUOTE]

Ok gotcha:) The post applies to others not you:)

[suzy]

in response to snickle’s and spirit’s posts above

Change is almost always uncomfortable. I’m not sure that it matters who introduces it or how they state it–it’s painful. I think of the changes made in my work place by the most well meaning people with great ideas. Even though I know they are right and change needs to be made, it’s a bugger to have to learn a bunch of new, complex things and usually within a tight time frame.

[rcloisonne]

Originally Posted by Bristol Bay

Wasn’t it Rosemary’s Baby that had a reference to a book called Witches All?

Close, but no cigar. The book Rosemary read was “All Them Witches”. How I remembered that, I have no clue. Read Rosemary’s Baby when I was 15 years old and it scared me to death. Classic horror - sort of like the Dressage forum.

[suzy]

[QUOTE=rcloisonne;7110143]
Close, but no cigar. The book Rosemary read was “All Them Witches”. How I remembered that, I have no clue. Read Rosemary’s Baby when I was 15 years old and it scared me to death. Classic horror - sort of like the Dressage forum. ;)[/QUOTE]

Velvet’s (“Bitches be crazy”) and your post have made my day.