Chestnuts (on legs)... explaining them to a creationist???

[OakesBrae]

I think that’s a good point.

First of all, what would be the motivation for scientists to lie about evolution? This is something that has bothered me for awhile. What motivation is there?

Second of all, I am not threatened by reading creationist - even literalist theory - so why are people so threatened and angered by evolution? I just simply do not get it.

I think it’s useful to read texts of all religions. I think it’s useful to read all theories if for nothing else then to understand fully why it is that you believe what YOU believe.

[DressageGeek_Ribbon]

@OakesBrae;1944276

I think that’s a good point.

First of all, what would be the motivation for scientists to lie about evolution? This is something that has bothered me for awhile. What motivation is there?

As a scientist, I can assure you, it ain’t for the money or the glamour!

[OakesBrae]

Are you sure? laughing

[SuperSTB]

Oh I’m going to have to mix up a nice batch of margaritas, maybe make a plate of nachos supremes and settle down for a nice read through This thread is certainly entertaining to say the least!

[QUOTE=Percheron X;1943680]
I wonder if horses are gods? We seem to make many offerings to appease them… and do we not often ask them for their benevolence. :D[/QUOTE]

(Because I just CAN’T resist- call me DEVIL spawn if you may- LOL)

Horses can’t be gods because there were almost 100,000 of them slaughtered last year…

chugga chugga Chooo Chooooooooo

[SuperSTB]

Penn and Teller show call Bllsht (Showtime) had a very entertaining segment on Creationism.

[ESG]

@jetsmom;1941749

If they were so foals could find the udder…Why would male horses have them?

For the same reason men have nipples - pacifiers!

And I never bother to try to explain anything to a creationist. I leave that to the Jesuits; they’re used to dealing with infidels and non-believers. :lol:

Chugga chugga chugga chugga…

[Alagirl]

@ESG;1944307

For the same reason men have nipples - pacifiers!

And I never bother to try to explain anything to a creationist. I leave that to the Jesuits; they’re used to dealing with infidels and non-believers. :lol:

Chugga chugga chugga chugga…

ROFLMAO!:lol:

[Catersun]

hahaha ROTFLMAO

Ok… I was really trying to be good and not jump onto this trainwreck… but I just have to be a smarty pants cause too many people are taking this toooooo seriously this is a horse bb for crying out loud!

Has anyone ever prayed for God to do something only to have it happen YEARS later? well my point is that our sense or “TIME” is probably seriously off… just like when I tell my husband that we need to be there at 6 and since he has his own time zone, we show up when the rest of the worlds clock says 7:30. (but his mother is that way… so I think it may be the hole nature vs nurture argument too)

lmao too hard to care about typos and spelling LOL

[aregard]

@Appassionato;1943659

Or extremists, like in 9-11. They got to have 72 virgins in heaven. Allah knows they believed that.

Wouldn’t be much of a heaven for the 72 virgins…

[dizzywriter]

[QUOTE=Moesha;1943576]
Horse evolution is held up as one of the best examples of evolution. Of course because of that it has landed in the center of the evolution debate.

I don’t understand how evolution and religious beliefs have to be at odds? Science and Religion are really not that polar. Why can’t someone who believes in evolution not believe in God and Heaven, Etc? Who can judge such faith?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_horse[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think that science and religion are polar. Science is empirical – facts that can be tested or at least confirmed by some objective means. Religion is faith, which can be “tested” in the metaphorical sense, but not by observation.

Science can extrapolate a Big Bang from existing physical evidence. Religion is what makes some of us believe (but not know) that there was an divine force behind the singularity.

That said, I think the two can be compatible (Richard Dawkin’s overheated new book aside). They are merely of different spheres.

[dizzywriter]

[QUOTE=Frank B;1944163]
It’s also interesting to note that many amateur astronomers are in the clergy, and some write articles for newspapers and even astronomy magazines.[/QUOTE]

To my knowledge, the original astronomers were clergy (shamans, whatever you want to call them). The first monumental Bronze age sites in Europe were probably astronomical observatories, and I’ll bet the folks in charge of watching the heavens (and knew, for example, when B.C.E. daylight savings time began) didn’t share that knowledge with just anyone – hence, a priestly caste.

[dizzywriter]

[QUOTE=crackerjack;1944254]
33% of the world’s population is Christian - therefore less than 33% are fundamental, literal word for word interpretations of the bible. Does that mean that the rest of the world’s population has it wrong on how the world was created… what about the other religions that have other theories - why should they be discounted. [/QUOTE]

Of course the rest are wrong. And most Christians are wrong, too. Otherwise, more than 144,000 would get into heaven at the End of Times (according to the book of revelations). Then, it would get very crowded. God’s place has very specific dimensions and though I’ve never actually done the math, it doesn’t seem much bigger than an apartment building.

[dizzywriter]

[QUOTE=OakesBrae;1944276]

First of all, what would be the motivation for scientists to lie about evolution? This is something that has bothered me for awhile. What motivation is there?

.[/QUOTE]

Isn’t it obvious? They are agents of Satan – who, by the way, put chestnuts on horses so that the weak among us would question God’s design.

Personally, I’ve decided that don’t want to be among the 144,000 saved folks. If the guest list is decided by intolerant belief in hooey, I think that the company in hell will be far more interesting.

choo choo

[goeslikestink]

i names ossy osiris – becuase he was kind and quiet and loved people

and hes good natured

osiris is an egyptian god – the god of nature

his full brother is also named after an egytian god

the god-- being RA –
ra is bright and alert and brighter chesnut than his brother

my best friend had his full brother

the indians in usa have beleifs and gods again there s arecalled diffferent names
but still represent earth, wind, fire, water, air etc

not one person can say thats how it was or wasnt – they werent there

no-one was…

[Frank_B]

Some (if not more) of the ‘evolutionists’ can act just as fundamentalist and hostile as some of the ‘creationists’. Again, it’s that politics-getting-mixed-up-in-science bug-a-boo.

Most of early astronomy was more akin to astrology – attempting to predict the heaven’s influence on mankind. Nontheless, some darn good data was gathered and recorded. It’s interesting to speculate what might be known had the great library at Alexandria had not been destroyed.

[Lin]

[QUOTE=SuperSTB;1944305]
Oh I’m going to have to mix up a nice batch of margaritas, maybe make a plate of nachos supremes and settle down for a nice read through This thread is certainly entertaining to say the least!

(Because I just CAN’T resist- call me DEVIL spawn if you may- LOL)

Horses can’t be gods because there were almost 100,000 of them slaughtered last year…

chugga chugga Chooo Chooooooooo[/QUOTE]

Actually, being slaughtered happens to Gods a lot. Look at Odin, hordes of Indian gods,and even Jesus.

[goeslikestink]

this is weird i often da jar vou— what frank b wrote – i saw it before i even came on here–

anyways – gettting back to chesnut s — they grow on trees as well some you can eat some you cant —

horsechesnuts – haha

sure its nothing to do with a plant – and not a horse –

[dizzywriter]

[QUOTE=Frank B;1944504]
Some (if not more) of the ‘evolutionists’ can act just as fundamentalist and hostile as some of the ‘creationists’. Again, it’s that politics-getting-mixed-up-in-science bug-a-boo.

Most of early astronomy was more akin to astrology – attempting to predict the heaven’s influence on mankind. Nontheless, some darn good data was gathered and recorded. It’s interesting to speculate what might be known had the great library at Alexandria had not been destroyed.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think that the ancients made a distinction between astronomy or astrology. But, yes, the library of Alexandra was truly a great loss. Maybe there were papyrus scrolls about “how to keep my heels down”. Though I suspect, the answers would be the same as today, namely “work on it.” Some ancient knowledge is pretty obvious.

[Prieta]

I recall this joke:

Once a professor gave a lecture about religion, he then asked the class if anyone had seen God. Silence…He smiled big then said,“Then, God does not exists!” A student raised his hand and asked the class if anyone had seen the professor’s brain. No no no students replied. The student said," Then, this professor does not have BRAIN!" :lol: :lol:

Both science and religion require faith.

[goeslikestink]

haha-- balance -