Please please please remind Dave that his boys should NEVER be left alone with her. He must leave at least two people at home at all times.
She is not mentally stable enough to be trusted not to fabricate lies about either Dave or the boys.
And I agree, up your fence charger!
My thoughts exactly. Maybe with three brothers to keep an eye on her, she’ll stay out of trouble. I hope they can be a good influence on her, not the other way around. How old are the boys again?
As for Farmer Dave- Well, bless his heart!
And this time I sincerely mean that. 
Printed what I had so far, and am printing the rest now
Dave hasn’t seen it yet. I’ve only spoken to him (and Gran) quickly on the phone. Child has been at a church group with the boys all day and (from what I’ve heard) seems to be doing better. Less rudeness, more willing to actually talk… I can’t figure her out.
I’m still stunned by Dave’s offer. He said that Gran cried when he said it. :sadsmile:
I have my doubts about her living so close. There seems to be no good way out of this.
And Mrs. Farmer Dave too … a lot will be in her lap if this plan goes forward.
eta. I just noticed that the Farmer Daves also have a baby daughter in addition to their three sons. I trust they have enough sense not to allow the kid to be alone with the baby.
Ugh. Another good point.
Farmer Dave deserves a medal for even considering this project.
Dave is great but he is in for trouble
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Please please please remind Dave that his boys should NEVER be left alone with her. He must leave at least two people at home at all times.
She is not mentally stable enough to be trusted not to fabricate lies about either Dave or the boys.
And I agree, up your fence charger![/QUOTE]
Ok don’t flame but…I agree that this is going to be trouble. Often, and I’ve seen this happen, young girls who are mentaly unstable try to get attention thru sexual advances. One doctor here in town a few years ago had to send a girl back to her grandparents (no known father, mother in jail) because the girl made sexual advances towards the doctor’s young son. This is a trainwreck about to happen. Dave needs to be very careful, very.
Wow…this made me tear up a little :sadsmile:
What a nice family…I’m not NEAR that nice…not EVEN close!!
Maybe some stability is what this girl needs. Just think…Mom is wacked apparently, no dad, shipped to Grammy’s, Grampy’s sick, Grammy doesn’t want kid either…no wonder this kid has problems!!!
Someone should find the mother and smack her! :mad:
I don’t remember reading that Gran didn’t want her, just couldn’t handle her.
Especially with everything else on her plate right now.
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I have my doubts about her living so close. There seems to be no good way out of this.[/QUOTE]
I think if you aren’t proactive, when she backslides (which she will sometimes even in a perfect situation), you will be the target.
If she does wind up at Dave’s have them all over again. Tell her you are glad she has caught a break, and no hard feelings (even if there are). Give her a proper introduction to the horses, explain why her past experiences (don’t call it behavior) upset you. Then leave it to her.
Of course, you’ll know how to reach her case worker, and she knows you know Dave. If that works out for her, she won’t want to risk a good thing by antagonizing you anyway.
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I don’t remember reading that Gran didn’t want her, just couldn’t handle her.
Especially with everything else on her plate right now.[/QUOTE]
Okay, I guess you are right. But I bet that what the girl thinks…
This story has more turns and twists. Sir (Knighted) Dave and his family. What a guy. But he has to know that there is no statute of limitations on sexual abuse. She could wait until she is forty to make a come-back…on Dave or his boys. They are at the perfect age. I’d like to think, that as a united group, something could be done for her - like I said, I’m so idealistic.
Moderator 1 - well done. That person’s lack of decency in his last post inferring that Gran was getting senile by not remembering was WAY over the line. I’m surprized that it did not unleash the furore that he was seeking.
Oh, and CityMouse - Don’t even think of putting her on a bus to Saskatchewan, via the Atlantic ocean. That’s in MY country.
I was beginning to wander if JSwan had fallen off the planet - not like her to miss a party.
Wow… wow… Farmer Dave deserves a medal for taking this girl in to his home… I just hope she won’t bite the hand that feeds her (in this new situation).
Maybe jockeying for attention among the other children in the home may humble her a tad.
nannycam nannycam NANNYCAM!!
I’d be scared of that girl trying something. My SO told me of a friend’s daughter grabbing him ‘there’ then trying to assert HE’D made her do it. Thank GOD our friend knew the girl had issues and knew where the blame went.
Scary.
I really really hope this works out well. Big kudos to Farmer Dave. I hope they are all circumspect enough to treat her as a possible criminal until she proves otherwise. Actions that she has demonstrated in the past are pretty good indicators that she will attempt to manipulate just about any situation with no conscience in the future. Please Farmer Dave, don’t ever let her alone one on one with any of your children, yourself or your wife - or animals. And Farmer Dave… give Momma some extra good lovin’ for dropping this troubled pre-teen in her lap. ;:yes:)
I was thinking it would be poetic justice to deposit her on the doorstep of a certain poster who was SO concerned about her.
But I don’t even want her on my continent, never mind in the same country.
Seriously, I have the utmost respect for both Kookicat and the Farmer Dave Family for their efforts with this girl. I hope everything works out for all concerned, and that this girl wakes up and smells the coffee enough to thank her lucky stars and behave herself.
Kudos to all who are trying to help her.
oh wow
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For those of you that missed the fun last night (and wow, did you miss the fun!!!) here is a link to the cached image of the page last night. Definitely worth a look!!!
thank you. I looked. Images concerning facinated were not pretty!
Best to transfer his (facinated) thread to the Capone missing post.
I just have a really bad feeling about this 12 yr old girl being at Farmer Dave’s, hopefully social worker will reject it and take her from Grandma to group home. My question is, what made Grandma decide she wanted to give girl up? Bet the kid threatened Grandma!
Knight Dave has offered…and Granny is amenable…So far as I read this we are a far cry from it becoming a reality…I am not sure it is as simple as "Dave will take her, and Granny will allow it ( and probably embrace the idea )…
Social services is already involved…I would think that there are quite a few hoops that need to be jumped through since they are ( or are supposed to be ) on the case…
All warnings posted here of what could happen here should be relayed to Dave…as they say, “No good deed goes unpunished”.
Ooo- that’s also in the lyrics of a song from Wicked.
Goosebumps! :eek:
Yeah, I guess what I meant with the getting the girl interested in boys was missing one material portion - getting her interested in DECENT BOYS is probably a good idea. I’m sure lots of people know others who were on not so good tracks but met good people whom they wanted to hang around with and got straightened out for that reason alone.
Dave has got to be one of the most kind-hearted, as well as the bravest, people in the world. This might be perfect for her if he’s a “takes no crap” kind of guy.
Mom’s probably out of touch because she’s having too much fun without her kid around. Hopefully there aren’t any more one-night stands…
Too bad for that fellow, being so gentlemanlike and offering his house and family to the altar of helping a girl seemingly undiagnosed and probably disturbed and of questionable character.:no:
We all know horses that are not worth someone getting hurt over.
I think that may be where we are with this kid.
Hopefully the case worker will ask for a full evaluation first.:yes:
Maybe the kid will end in theraphy and with whatever help and control on her behavior is needed to try to rehabilitate, be it as part of that fellow’s family or in the appropiate institution.
Good luck to all trying to sort this out.:eek:
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