Child in my pasture- WWYD?

[AnotherRound]

Aren’t there books out now about bullies, and how to deal with them? Hmmm. Boy, cost aside, what wouldn’t be fun to do. Like increase the voltage on the electric fencing. Install real cameras everywhere. Pour puddles of tar around the outside perimeter of the pastures. Coat the fences with horrific fly paper like sticky stuff, or sap from trees maybe. Set up a large boulder which would slam into someone’s car if they came through the driveway gate when you weren’t home. Set up screechingly loud alarm signal the bully can set off. Coat the fences in permanent ink of some kind so if they go through them they are marked all over. I tell you, my husband has no averson to skunk smell. Says it reminds him of the farm growing up, and likes it. He would saturate the perimeter of the property with skunk musk and not care about the smell himself.

I might keep the horses in at night and set up a horrifyingly unceasingly loud alarm if the barn door was opened. What else could you do to make it a miserable and embarrasing experience to come onto your property?

What would totally humiliate these people? Video cam of them on youtube? probably not. Bucket of paint all over them?

[JSwan]

Holy Shit is an understatement. What were y’all thinking?

You’ll always be welcome here, Paddy. I’ll even take you foxhunting. Then we can shoot skeet in my back pasture. Then we can go chase rabbits with a footpack of Basset Hounds.

@PaddyUK;3399792

Oh yes, and then some.

Unfortunately we signed up to the Human Rights Act a few years ago.

Some Solicitors and Barristers (they are seperate qualifiactions here in the UK) thought “goodie goodie” lots of Legal Aid Money coming my way.

Then there were those of us in practice who thought “holy shit”:eek:

The :eek::eek: contigent were right.

Paddy

[PaddyUK]

[QUOTE=AnotherRound;3400037]
Aren’t there books out now about bullies, and how to deal with them? Hmmm. Boy, cost aside, what wouldn’t be fun to do. Like increase the voltage on the electric fencing. Install real cameras everywhere. Pour puddles of tar around the outside perimeter of the pastures. Coat the fences with horrific fly paper like sticky stuff, or sap from trees maybe. Set up a large boulder which would slam into someone’s car if they came through the driveway gate when you weren’t home. Set up screechingly loud alarm signal the bully can set off. Coat the fences in permanent ink of some kind so if they go through them they are marked all over. I tell you, my husband has no averson to skunk smell. Says it reminds him of the farm growing up, and likes it. He would saturate the perimeter of the property with skunk musk and not care about the smell himself.

I might keep the horses in at night and set up a horrifyingly unceasingly loud alarm if the barn door was opened. What else could you do to make it a miserable and embarrasing experience to come onto your property?

What would totally humiliate these people? Video cam of them on youtube? probably not. Bucket of paint all over them?[/QUOTE]

AR, the problem is, if we scare the Bully, and he/she has bad dreams and has to have his/her little wittle hand held when he/she goes to poop, in prison, then we: the victim could end up paying he/she compensation because we have infringed their Human Rights!

God forbid that they have to sleep on a hard mattress.

The UK must be the only place in the world where a complete git, who left school at 15 can go to jail and come out 10 years later with a Phd. PAID for by us, the tax paying, law abiding public and sue the system because he/she didn’t like the food/warden/bed/cell etc.

I tell you, you could not make this shit up!

J. Swan, if I ever get over there, which I’m hoping to do next year, I’ll take you up on that as I’m a hunting gel!!

In my family you shoot it, stuff it or marry it. Gosh my husband was relieved when I said yes at the alter:lol:

Paddy

[Artful]

Well, I’m gobsmacked:eek: (isn’t that the right word?)

I second JSwan—come to Virginia. In fact, we just had a lovely celebration marking the 400th anniversary of Brits coming to Virginia:lol:

[JSwan]

@Artful;3400149

I second JSwan—come to Virginia. In fact, we just had a lovely celebration marking the 400th anniversary of Brits coming to Virginia:lol:

And every year we have a celebration marking the day when we kicked them out.

But we’ll make an exception for Paddy. As long as Paddy does not offer to bring a covered dish - boiled mystery meat just doesn’t taste as good as real Virginia ham.

And I just happen to have lots of ham.

Paddy - yes - come a huntin’ - I’m hoping the Baby Horse will be ready to go cubbing next year - and I don’t want to be on him his first time out! You ride him and I’ll hold your beer. :lol:

[PaddyUK]

[QUOTE=Artful;3400149]
Well, I’m gobsmacked:eek: (isn’t that the right word?)

I second JSwan—come to Virginia. In fact, we just had a lovely celebration marking the 400th anniversary of Brits coming to Virginia:lol:[/QUOTE]

:lol: Gobsmacked is good, or “Bugger me with a fish fork” is even better:lol:

If I was 20 years younger and knew what I know now, well I’d have put my English ass on a plane!

Unfortunatley, we are too old to re-qualify in the USA. You don’t have Environmental health Officers (your EPA is different) over there and I’m too old to sit bar exams.

I’m hoping to get clearance to fly long haul next year (just been treated for a blood clot from my op - uummm Heperin injections in my tum for 5 days) so will have fingers crossed.

“sodding hell” “strewth” “piss ORFF (and it has to be orff)” and “tosspot/tosser/w*nker” are also accepted terms of exclamation and derision.:lol:

Paddy

[tkhawk]

Kookicat- those kind of folks-like the crazy mom are really not rational. I have been around a few-one was a boss actually. Nothing you say will satisfy them. You go one way and if what you are saying makes sense, they just jump into another totally unrelated argument and throw you totally off balance-actually now that I think of it some horses are like that too:D
Just try to keep your cool and be calm . If you start being afraid of going outside-it will start affecting your life and all you get is you will be stewing inside. let it go -just think of something to protect your property and horses and document stuff and make sure the police know of any tresspassing. But those kind of people are really looking for a reaction-you can scream, insult, prove them wrong-it really will not matter-the more you dish out, the more they seem to relish it and I long ago discovered that you really can’t sink to their level-well maybe you can but I don’t think you would want too. I am not saying invite them over for tea(Ok do the British actually invite people over for tea or is it just something on TV??)-but just be firm about tresspassing and try to ignore and just move on if you see her on public streets. To me if somebody annoying(annoying not dangerous) corners me I just smile and shake my head as if I am listening to them and most move on if they get no response. Some are a true PITA(my ex boss) but even them if you are just calm and honest and hold your ground-in time they will tend to pick easier targets…

[AnotherRound]

You mean if she comes onto your property illegally and steps in - ehr - something unexpected she sues you for her misadvendture?? Are you saying that she has human rights to come onto anyone’s property and not be harrassed about it??

Sheesh. Thats why I was thinking of some innocent but not so innocent misfortune she could meet on the property in question. Really too bad there isn’t a mean nasty huge bull you could put in the pasture. We used to have a donkey would kill dogs if they set foot in the pasture. (His name was Walter).

“Sure, come on in. Wear red.”

[PaddyUK]

AR - I’m afraid your’s and Walters’ ass would be open to a Civil Prosecution in the UK.

We have the Right to Roam (another load of shit English Law) in the UK.

Let me put it this way: if you are a law abiding citizen, and you do anything to stop Mr, Mrs, Ms or Master CHAV, tresspassing, robbing or vandalising you or your property, yes, said CHAV can get Legal Aid because you (the law abiding citizen) might have done something to infringe their (the CHAVs) human rights.

And do not get me started on how Legal Service Commision monies are spent!

Paddy

[cowgirljenn]

[QUOTE=riverbell93;3399920]
Oh, we do that in the US too. Except for Florida. You want to watch your B&E in Florida.[/QUOTE]

In Texas, too. Here, we shoot people for breaking into OTHER people’s houses!

[BeastieSlave]

Here in GA, we shoot people for breaking into other people’s cars :lol: The only problem is that some bleeding hearts have decided that’s wrong, and that the crooks shouldn’t have to be worried about such things when they are going about their business :eek:

@PaddyUK;3400225

“Bugger me with a fish fork”
“sodding hell” “strewth” “piss ORFF (and it has to be orff)” and “tosspot/tosser/w*nker” are also accepted terms of exclamation and derision.:lol:

Ooohhh, those are great (fish fork especially)

[see_u_at_x]

So basically you’re saying that if a trespasser meets with an unfortunate end on one’s property in England, then the property owner must drag their body off of the property in order to avoid prosecution?

[Murphy_s_Mom]

Here is WA State you have to break into FIVE cars before they will arrest you. :no: If you shoot someone you just have to say you were afraid the guy was going to kill you. Never ever say you are sorry you did it.

Kooki - could Farmer Dave have a talk with PC Owen’s replacement? Maybe he would take a complaint from a man more seriously.

[cloudyandcallie]

Traps

Unfortunately, you cannot set up blind traps, like around the pasture and all, that would hurt someone coming in, even if it is the bad guys, cause the presumtion is that anyone who might be entering your property isn’t bad.
So KookiCat cannot implement any of the great ideas that others have suggested on this thread.
What is amazing is that this is 2008, and the good people, aka KookiCat, must live in fear because the bad people, aka Rosemary and her devil child, have all the rights.
Why should KookiCat have to think about moving rather than having the demons exorcized? Because KookiCat has no rights as a victim.
I am so glad that the horses and KookiCat haven’t been seriously injured yet.

[EponaRoan]

Pour puddles of tar around the outside perimeter of the pastures. Coat the fences with horrific fly paper like sticky stuff, or sap from trees maybe.

Coat the fences in permanent ink of some kind so if they go through them they are marked all over.

Only problem with this is that you know the horses will go and lean against said fence or roll in the tar if they possibly can. :lol:

SSS is looking better and better … (I kid, I kid.)

[Angel_Undercover]

[QUOTE=equinelaw;3399250]
Pepper spray is illegal in Cananda too? No guns and no pepper spray?? No wonder you guys need so many geese for protection!

Spraying crazy baby mama with alchohol wont work. She is immune. Are big snarly dogs illegal too? Mayeb its time to adopt a new pet:winkgrin:[/QUOTE]

Ah yes, the great Canadian Attack Geese! I tell you, those things are REALLY nasty!! Maybe kookie can try importing some?? They bite, HARD!!

[PaddyUK]

[QUOTE=see u at x;3400726]
So basically you’re saying that if a trespasser meets with an unfortunate end on one’s property in England, then the property owner must drag their body off of the property in order to avoid prosecution?[/QUOTE]

Preferably one pays someone else to drag said body off the property - unless you are the Queen, then you pay someone else to drag it orrfff:)

Paddy

[nickers1]

Please, please someone fill me in, I’m not a alter, just a laughing lurker. I left off at page 50, I can’t get to it all! Last I heard we were waiting to see if Dave could take in young trouble maker. Now I get to last page and see a scary tone to the latest posts! Don’ want to be a pest but I can’t wait to know whats happened!

[cloudyandcallie]

Um

[QUOTE=nickers@dawn;3401392]
Please, please someone fill me in, I’m not a alter, just a laughing lurker. I left off at page 50, I can’t get to it all! Last I heard we were waiting to see if Dave could take in young trouble maker. Now I get to last page and see a scary tone to the latest posts! Don’ want to be a pest but I can’t wait to know whats happened![/QUOTE]

OK, so let’ see, it’s confusing so someone add what I forget:
Mum of demon child appears, she had been on vacation in Spain with her boyfriend.
Mum appears at 2am at KookiCat’s door, drunk, with Grandma driving.
Mum staggers into electric fence.
PC Owen gets into wreck, is out of commission for a few weeks.
Mum confronts KC in the village, argument ensues.
KC has to go out of town on business, will leave her horses with trainer.
Farmer Dave, if he is smart, will have 2nd thoughts about everything.

Please chime in and tell her what I’ve left out.

[nickers1]

Oh my God!!! Thank you Cloudyandcallie for filling me in. Poor KC, all this thru no fault of her own.