Has anyone heard what happened to the horse that went down in the race?
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Has anyone heard what happened to the horse that went down in the race?[/QUOTE]
I watched the race live and have watched the replay three times now. I didn’t see or hear anything about a horse going down. They all crossed the wire, according to the announcer. Are you sure you have the correct race?
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Darn, I was hoping this would work - it is a screen shot of Chrome after the wire showing just how far back the girth and saddle were. I used Facebook for the link.
Also, re another comment, a bucking strap makes a horse hunch up and buck, not run.[/QUOTE]
This is a good picture on the Paulick Report.
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/thoroughbred-racing/dubai-world-cup-california-chrome/
For those that have never tacked up a racehorse both girths, over girth and under girth are completely made of basically the same elastic that you would find on the end of a leather girth that the buckles are attached to. It is stretched to almost twice its “resting” length when tacking up. Takes 2 people to put on the saddle. One to hold the saddle in place when putting on the under girth and one to hold the over girth in place while the other pulls down and up as the 2 “meet” at the buckle. So even if the saddle slips back there is still a fair amount of “grip” around the horse.
Its not like getting off a horse with a leather girth that slipped and seeing “day light” between the girth and the horse.
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A “bucking strap” doesn’t make bulls run faster, it makes them buck. :lol: Or are you just having some fun? I wonder if the jockey could feel just how far the girth had slipped.
The race was amazing. I’m still hooten and hollering. The neighbors are going to think I’ve lost it.[/QUOTE]
I would say based on this quote from Victor he knew. lol
“I was just trying to keep my balance and not move my body,” he
said. “I wasn’t that concerned about it, I just kept looking forward
and thinking ‘where’s the wire.’ It was not coming fast enough.”
A big congrats to Team Chrome. Such a cool horse. Not many come back from a lay off and the other things he has had to over come and regain top form.
Congrats to Taylor Made for taking the gamble and rolling the dice by buying into him as a future stallion prospect and racing him.
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I’m simply amazed that the jockey did not end up under the horse with the saddle that loose. That just shows you what tkind of athlete they really are. The jockey had to stay dead center on that horse’s back or the saddle would have spun. The saddle slipping like that would have been a great excuse for not winning the race. And you know what ? It didn’t matter.
Makes you wonder what could have been had Chrome not had his foot torn up in the Belmont.
I’m so happy for his trainer most of all. He is a very down to earth blue collar trainer and it’s great to see someone like that get this big of a win.[/QUOTE]
Taking nothing away from Victor (the jock) and it’s something we never want to happen. There are lots of ways/reasons to loose a race don’t need to add to the list.
But any good jock doesn’t rely on the saddle to keep their body in “place” balanced that’s what they’re paid to do. It’s a flat race on predictable course. The majority of horses run “straight and true” so keeping balanced in both stirrups is not that hard.
Unlike a jump race when thinks are changing, course, direction rapidly at any given time and the horse doesn’t always meet the fence in perfect form.
Ask me how I know.:eek:
Check the thread re same. Just saw horse died. Was struggling early in race. Collapsed on track. 
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Check the thread re same. Just saw horse died. Was struggling early in race. Collapsed on track. :([/QUOTE]
That was in a race earlier in the day, not in the Dubai World Cup itself.
It sure didn’t look good, though.
Are you sure? I thought it was on the video of Chrome’s race.
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Are you sure? I thought it was on the video of Chrome’s race.[/QUOTE]
Look at the video in the other thread.
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Are you sure? I thought it was on the video of Chrome’s race.[/QUOTE]
It was the Dubai Golden Shaneen, not the DWC.
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I would say based on this quote from Victor he knew. lol
“I was just trying to keep my balance and not move my body,” he
said. “I wasn’t that concerned about it, I just kept looking forward
and thinking ‘where’s the wire.’ It was not coming fast enough.”[/QUOTE]
He wasn’t the only one thinking “where’s the wire” :eek: I kept hoping the saddle wouldn’t slide right off his bum! (Chrome’s bum).
Trail riding up a very steep slope with several riders, one gal starts yelling “oh crap, oh crap”. I look back to see her saddle sliding off the horses hips and to the ground. She was hanging onto his mane. Her horse was a good minded fellow, plus our ascent was very steep with no where for him to go. He pretty much just stepped out of the saddle as it slid down his legs to the ground. That day made a believer out of her on using a breast collar. Speaking of a breast collar, I noticed a horse did use one and several horses had neck straps for the jockeys.
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I would say based on this quote from Victor he knew. lol
“I was just trying to keep my balance and not move my body,” he
said. “I wasn’t that concerned about it, I just kept looking forward
and thinking ‘where’s the wire.’ It was not coming fast enough.”[/QUOTE]
LOL he certainly did a great job!!
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Are you sure? I thought it was on the video of Chrome’s race.[/QUOTE]
I’m the one that posted that thread & it is most certainly NOT the same race that Chrome was in. It was race 6, earlier in the card.
The horse has died & the jockey had rib fractures & a punctured lung.
I am so glad CC was able to come back and have a good race. He is a good horse and congrats to his connections for racing him as an older horse. Wonder how he would do on grass? I would love to see him race in Japan or Europe…
Glad no one got hurt with that saddle issue…
I was happy to see Mubtaahij come up for second, as I thought he was a much nicer horse than he was able to show in the Triple Crown last year. I’m a little disappointed by Frosted, but I was also a little surprised at his BC Classic placing. He won his prep race in Dubai and he is also a nicer horse than I think his last two big-race placings have shown. That being said, he did have to go wide.
I admit to not really being a Chromie - he’s a nice horse and he is a darn good racehorse, but I’ll be honest in thinking he was not the superstar everyone else thought he was. To me, this race was visually more impressive than what I have seen from him in the past, although I thought his Kentucky Derby win was impressive as well.
I do appreciate that Taylor Made & Perry Martin decided to race him at 5 as well. I like him more now as a mature 5 year old (he is a big, powerful looking horse now) than I did when he was on the Triple Crown trail. He has certainly grown into himself, and I find him more impressive than I did when he was younger.
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Wonder how he would do on grass?.[/QUOTE]
…Good enough to win the G1 Hollywood Derby in November 2014. Del Mar’s turf is not as cushy as the grass somewhere like England tends to be, but it’s still grass.
I think the plan is this is his last overseas race. He’s shipping back to the US and to California after quarantine. The race besides the Classic most getting talked about would be the TVG Pacific Classic and a potential meeting there with Beholder.
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I was happy to see Mubtaahij come up for second, as I thought he was a much nicer horse than he was able to show in the Triple Crown last year. I’m a little disappointed by Frosted, but I was also a little surprised at his BC Classic placing. He won his prep race in Dubai and he is also a nicer horse than I think his last two big-race placings have shown. That being said, he did have to go wide.
I admit to not really being a Chromie - he’s a nice horse and he is a darn good racehorse, but I’ll be honest in thinking he was not the superstar everyone else thought he was. To me, this race was visually more impressive than what I have seen from him in the past, although I thought his Kentucky Derby win was impressive as well.
I do appreciate that Taylor Made & Perry Martin decided to race him at 5 as well. I like him more now as a mature 5 year old (he is a big, powerful looking horse now) than I did when he was on the Triple Crown trail. He has certainly grown into himself, and I find him more impressive than I did when he was younger.[/QUOTE]
What does he have to do to get superstar status, but really, who cares about superstar status? He is a nice horse, and may end up as a great horse. He nearly won the Triple Crown and that is something in and of itself. Except for that he was bumped and pretty severely stepped on (injured) in the Belmont, I do think he would have hung in there and at least come second. And, I will go out on a limb, I think he was mishandled by being sent to England instead of getting a well deserved rest here and then brought back. He was not the most stunningly developed horse as a three year old which should have informed that decision a little as well, but still he won 2 major classic races and as I said, was bumped and injured out of the last. I am glad they are continuing to race him but I do wish they would stop trying to prove something by running him all over the world. Hopefully this will be it and that they do not also do the year round breeding so horribly prevalent these days. I really feel for the US stallions, greedy buggers that these syndicates are, they are not machines and so many are paying the price in early deaths.
A couple Derby winners have won the Dubai World Cup and a couple of Breeders Cup Classic winners have won the Dubai World Cup.
Could Chrome be the first to win all three? That would be very cool!
He is a nice horse, and may end up as a great horse.
That’s my take on him exactly. But no, I wasn’t as crazy about him as a lot of others were while he was on the Triple Crown trail, even though he did win two out of three, and still did well in the Belmont. I have no idea why, because it wasn’t as if he was a bad racehorse at all! He just didn’t really click with me. There’s no denying that he ran a superb Dubai World Cup though, he looked phenomenal.
I do wish they would stop trying to prove something by running him all over the world. Hopefully this will be it and that they do not also do the year round breeding so horribly prevalent these days.
I think this may be it for running around the world, although I’d hesitate to say that too early. I don’t think they’ll want to send him back to England, I’m guessing they’d rather keep him here to train for the BC Classic…but you never know. But American racehorses have traveled around the world to race before and have won, so his adventures abroad don’t bother me that much. I actually wish we had more horses heading abroad. There are British & European racehorses who have literally won all over the world. I don’t deny that his British adventures were maybe not the best planned, but it would have been neat to see an American champion (a Derby winner!) at Ascot.
