Hi
I hope I do not upset anyone, but I have created a Facebook page for Coloured Thoroughbreds and part breds for racing, foals /breeding/and sport so please if you like them come and see whos racing around the world and tell your friends lets see more colour on the tracks of the world!
let the horses wear the colour.
Thanks.
You’ll probably get more of a response if you post this on the Sport Horse Breeding forum. That’s where most of the colored TB breeders hang out. 
Thank you I have posted in the sports horse bit on here is that what you mean
That’s what Laurie meant. I’m not quite sure I see the point–color is irrelevant for racing, so why make an effort to breed for it? You’re more likely to end up getting horses with pretty patches who can’t run than breeding for racing ability and if you get color, that’s what happened to come out. Paints don’t have a reputation for brains over here because their association gets so fixated on breeding for color they end up with horses too stupid to figure out a pole-bending pattern (or anything beyond w/t/c/halt), but hey, they’re pwetty…
But the sport horse breeders like their pinto warmbloods, so you’d probably have more interest in that forum.
I wouldn’t pass on a TB (assuming it was really a purebred that could be DNA tested and registered) just because it had pretty patches, but if I were buying a racing or breeding prospect, all I’d care about were bloodlines and performance. I definitely wouldn’t invest in one specifically because it was colored.
We are very luck in the UK as we can breed for racing and add the colour as a bonus any colour so we breed for speed and we have a programme that is based on sprinting and national hunt Jumpers and if they dont race they will event as the sires family are from 4* horses producers.
The point is its different and I guess why not we have 17 members in our syndicate who love it with what we are doing you can breed control the colour as you can breed for Homozygous Tobiano and winners at the same time.
How do you “control the colour” and breed for function? I know you can try, but you either breed a horse because you plan to get speed, distance, jumping ability, etc., or you breed for a certain look.
Sorry, but I’ve never been a fan of breeding any animal for looks unless the looks help them achieve something physically significant (good shoulder, big hip, straight legs). Breeding for looks has ruined so many horse and dog breeds:(
I don’t blame you guys for doing it, but you really can’t breed for color at the same time you breed for racing, etc., without taking away from the racing, etc., aspect.
Well, unless you guys are altering the color gene some way and plopping it in there?
That is exactly what we are doing we have winning race sprint broodmares and we have a Homozygous Tobiano stallion whos sire is 3/4 bred eventer lines and is a grade C BSJA stallion and graded, dam was an advanced endurance mare whos grandsire is a double puissance winner pure TB and is by Gunner B a Grand Natonal winners sire Red Maurader 2001.
the sire is related via the dams sire to Badmington horse Cornsay grouse and Kilfinnie 11 ridden by Paul Tapner.
So we hope we have done the right thing and added the colour as a by product of success
our mares are Bond Angel eyes a Aunty to Miss Blakely a can mare who is a black type winner she also has two half sisters one of whom is black type. her first son is Angrove rumbaba and he is training for the flat this spring.
http://www.angrovestud.com/tobiano-coloured-racehorse.html
photos of him can be found here
Oh dear. I know in England it has a different meaning, but I visited the website and can’t stop giggling about “Spotted Dick”
(sorry, he’s a lovely horse, by the way! I’m just really juvenile. hahahaha)
Why would anyone breed to a stallion who just turned out eventers and was event bred for racing?
I agree with Brenda, I don’t see the point. It comes out whatever color it comes out, and as long as it can run, I don’t care if it looks like its legs are on backwards and it’s purple.
I see looking at your site (though the bad grammar makes it VERY hard to read) they’re not even thoroughbreds anyway, so you aren’t breeding colored thoroughbreds in any case. They’re sport horses and while it’s nice the UK has circuits that allow off breeds, they’re not thoroughbreds and wouldn’t have any value to the two major flat-racing registries in the US (JC and AQHA, the latter not just because of their crossbred status but because they have color restrictions). Though if they could be registered as Paints (I don’t know what the requirements are for the APHA) they could race in those events, but they’re pretty much the bottom of the flat-racing market. But really, they’d only be of interest over here to sport breeders who produce for sport performance and color. People with JC thoroughbreds or appendix QHs wouldn’t be interested because the offspring’s not registerable.
angrove, do me a favor? use that button with a little dot on it? you know, this thing: .
makes things SO much easier to read (and subsequently, understand) when a little punctuation is used.
Sorry I am an old Dyslexic English woman, with no understand of dots and full stop or even comoers LOL
Yes You dont have National hunt sorry, I was forgetting that we do so there for very relevent to us and some EU countries.
Ad or not an ad? You make the call. :winkgrin:
Well, who was it that said, Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse, and helping your uncle jack off a horse?? (Might not translate to UK…)
Lovely horses, but the American Paint Horse registry would not register offspring, nor would the American Jockey Club or the American Quarter Horse Association (for Appendix registry) since these are not purebred Thoroughbred.
There are still some bush tracks in the US, and plenty in Mexico, but there isn’t any racing that could be done in an official capacity with these horses.
I was intrigued by this post, since I didn’t think there was a tobiano gene in the Thoroughbred gene pool…and there still isn’t. There is, though, a sabino, a maximum sabino/medicine hat and dominant white- which seem to be different variations/expressions of the same gene, in Thoroughbreds. There is also a dilute gene (palomino, buckskin) in the TBs, but I don’t know that they have been bred to race.
Wasn’t there a palomino filly who sold in the last couple years who was in training?
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There are a couple “colored” horses racing out there. None have been incredibly successful.
The US does have “national hunt racing,” however it’s mostly called point-to-points or steeplechasing (hurdles and timber). In the US, horses do NOT have to be registered TB’s to race at ptp’s, however, they must be to race under rules (NSA sanctioned).
We have “Blondie” she has not raced yet (feet issues) but she is pretty!!!
And if she gets to the track… look out!
www.goldenrunfarm.net and go to the race horse page…
also have a Smart Strike with a white tail (she is bay) looking to run this month…
http://www.ped
called russelblancmontage
He is a registered white
I really like the Smart strike wonderful tail!
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Yes, and I was watching her through stable mail. She had a couple of workouts, the last one a bullet, then… nothing. Might have hurt herself in that workout.
I can’t remember her name, but I seem to recall it had “Vanilla” in it. She went through a sale here in Kentucky and was by a non-racing stud, if I recall correctly. (Edited: Stallion had some racing background, but both dam and grand dam were unraced.)
Edited to add: Here is the thread about her: “Splash of Vanilla”
I remember him! What a beautiful horse he was!
