Confused about this rigging

What is this called…and how do I cinch this up?

https://goo.gl/photos/neY24th7LJseQ1Gi7

Friend of mine is letting me borrow her Bob’s cutting saddle, and I actually think I may have found a winner. Not too surprising, I bought my training saddle from her too. I just don’t know how to do up the cinch!

Run your latigo thru the big hole and carry your excess thru the slot to the left? I know I’m right about the first, not so much the 2nd. :slight_smile:

Edited to add, when I looked again, I bet you run the tail thru the latigo keeper and then thru that slot on the left to keep everything tidy and out of the way.

Literally know NOTHING about Western, but maybe some horses do better with the cinch a bit forward or a bit back, then the extra goes thru the hanging tab above???

As for the round hole above & in the middle? No idea!

Or ask your friend?

Not my style, honestly not my expertise but from what I understand, Run up through the big hole to your immediate left, back down through the cinch ring, up to the ring to left, tail ran through the latigo keeper.

But I imagine the advantage would be, and I could completely wrong, You could switch where your latigo comes from and go the other direction. As I have had horses where this would work better. Then run your tail through your back cinch D.
The shorter coupled style horses seem to fit a full or 15/16 style rigging better than a TB or running crossed horse, 7/8 or maybe further back. Just my experience.

Not sure, but based on the parts of the rigging that are reinforced I would think you would run the latigo through the hole on top and use the buckle to secure it. Then use the slot on the left for the tail.

I think you run to the cinch ring, then up to the slot on the left, back to the cinch ring, then up to the big hole, back to the cinch ring and then buckle at the cinch ring. Distributes the pull and also distributes the laps of the latigo so you don’t have a lump under your leg. Also gives the cinch a little flexibility to settle where the horse needs it, with a tiny bit of give forward and back. Tail of the latigo then goes through the holder up by the concho.

Disregard my comment about running your latigo the other direction. It is not reinforced to do so. Some are.

We go through the one in the center, then the one to the left and secure. One of my boarders has one like this and I like it for the horse as I can adjust it a little more than the standard rigging.

I asked my friend, and she wasn’t really able to explain it to me. At least not in a way that I could make sense of (this was through text message, not in person). She did say that the advantage of this type (as Aces mentioned) is that if you need the girth to be a little bit more forward, you can change where the lattigo comes down. It is the same style on both sides of the saddle.

I will try again tonight. I got my head stuck on needing to make a knot like I do when it is just one ring. Couldn’t make a knot, ha! I was hoping somebody would know what this style was called so I could google a picture of how it suppose to look.

When I come up to the big hole, do I come from behind, or from in front?

The idea of cinches with buckles with a pin and latigos with holes is so we don’t have a knot under the knee there.

Rarely anyone ever makes knots with their latigos?

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The idea of cinches with buckles with a pin and latigos with holes is so we don’t have a knot under the knee there.

Rarely anyone ever makes knots with their latigos?[/QUOTE]

I tie mine like this: https://goo.gl/photos/tDBXyKQ2qELSVtcr6

I have never been super comfortable using the buckles. Plus, I feel like half the time there isn’t a hole in the latigo in the right spot to use them anyway.

Call Bob’s and ask them. Guarantee you won’t be the first to ask.

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Call Bob’s and ask them. Guarantee you won’t be the first to ask.[/QUOTE]

I may do that. I was trying to find pictures of their saddles tied up, and they seem to be just about the only brand that makes their saddles with that set up. All of their cowhorse saddles are made that way.

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I may do that. I was trying to find pictures of their saddles tied up, and they seem to be just about the only brand that makes their saddles with that set up. All of their cowhorse saddles are made that way.[/QUOTE]

Bob’s saddles are made, each model, according to the preferences of the top trainer sponsoring them, so they reflect that trainer’s preferences in swells, horns, seats, housing and rigging.

Bob’s also will make any kind of saddle to your specifications, if you prefer one kind of whatever in that one model, they will be happy to do that.

Bob’s has new ownership and management, so the answer might not be the same as when Bob Haley owned it.

Well they still make them with that set up: http://www.tedrobinsoncowhorses.com/saddles.html

So, hopefully they will have an answer!

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Well they still make them with that set up: http://www.tedrobinsoncowhorses.com/saddles.html

So, hopefully they will have an answer![/QUOTE]

That is Ted’s preference, others have conventional rigging:

http://www.cowdogsaddles.com/saddles-tn.php

Scroll down the saddles for sale page and there are plenty of all kinds there.

Dani has the right answer. I own a saddle with the same set up.

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Bob’s saddles are made, each model, according to the preferences of the top trainer sponsoring them, so they reflect that trainer’s preferences in swells, horns, seats, housing and rigging.

Bob’s also will make any kind of saddle to your specifications, if you prefer one kind of whatever in that one model, they will be happy to do that.[/QUOTE]

Does that mean that each line of Bob’s saddles won’t be on the same trees either? So if a Todd Bergen fits well, a Bob Avila might not fit the same?

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Does that mean that each line of Bob’s saddles won’t be on the same trees either? So if a Todd Bergen fits well, a Bob Avila might not fit the same?[/QUOTE]

Pretty much.