Corgi for a labrador lover

The preamble to this ramble is…

Grew up with boarder collies and aussies, when I opened my own business found the BC’s too territorial and not good around other people’s children. Married into Labradors and have owned/loved them for 20 years. The breeder where I got my Labs has retired and I am kinda sorta leaning toward getting a corgi instead of a lab, I love my friends’ corgi’s but I have never “lived” with one…

So talk me into or out of a corgi and then point me in the direction of a responsible breeder with sane healthy puppies…

There are two varieties, the Cardigan and the Pembroke. They are .not. the same in either temperament or body style.

remember they are short, but not small dogs. They can run anwhere between 20 and 45 pounds.

They shed. A lot. Heavy double coat. They shed enough that I quit buying standard vacuums and went to a Shop Vac.

if docking bothers you, go to the Cardi, tho I think there are some breeder who are beginning to try and turn the sea by keeping puppies un-docked.

The Pembroke has been described as a fun little sports car, the Cardy as a family sedan.

I’ve had Pems since 1997, and I have not regretted a single second of owning them. They suit my temperament to a T. Fast, courageous, easy to train (most of mine have been so food motivated they’ll turn themselves inside out for a cookie). I’ve had a few fosters that were soft, but mostly the dogs I’ve had moderately hard, tough dogs who are independent enough that they fall somewhere between your Labs and a terrier.

I will not be without a Pem in my life till someone else begins to make my decisions for me.

Where are you located? If anywhere Orange County there is a Corgi meet-up Sundays where you can meet the whole range of corgi temperaments.

I have a Cardigan and he is friendly, outgoing, smart, and not quite as terrier-like as many of the Pembrokes I have met (some of them are very mellow though). I grew up with Aussies and one of the things I like about both types of corgi is that they are very cheery playful dogs where the aussies were much more serious.

I think my Pem WEIGHS as much as the family sedan…

Tucker is a people person–there’s a LOLcat on icanhascheezburger’s dog section of a Pembroke that someone captioned “Hi, I don’t believe we’ve met. PLAY WITH ME!” That’s Tucker in a nutshell. She also does like to dig. And kill squeaky toys. And she’s very needy, at least in the HI I LOVE YOU PET ME RIGHT NOW OR I WILL SIT ON YOUR FEET sense. Also a chatterbox-not just barking at the door, but ‘talking’, especially when dinner’s not being readied fast enough.

I grew up with Labradors and got a Corgi for a wedding present. I fell in love with one at an event in Millbrook and had to have one. I named him Finnigan and he was the dog of a lifetime.

They are very different from Labs. I was unimpressed with the warnings of shedding. I thought that after growing up with Lab hair - “how bad can a Corgi be?” We called it Corgi dust and it was everywhere. My car was a fuzzy mess.

Finn was a great traveling companion and friend. He was quirky and neurotic (in a good way). He made it clear that he thought my mother-in-law was a terrible nag and he retired promptly at 9:30 every evening. This was announced with a single bark from the top of the stairs. I went back to a Lab after him. The Lab was also a gift and Finn was dying of cancer at the time, so I could not bring myself to get another Corgi.

They are both wonderful breeds of dogs, but very different. The Corgi was much more like living with an elf in the house that had his own rhythm. My Labs follow me around with single minded devotion to an ear rub, laying at my feet, and food. Finn was more of a partner in crime. Someday, there will be another one. It was a lot of fun.

Drawn to this thread. Owned/showed/small breeder of Labs for 20 years. Now have an Irish Wolfhound by default, but doesn’t mean I don’t love her to pieces.

But have always yearned for a Corgi.:cool:

Love to hear more!

I’ve had many labs over the years and dearly love them. Hubby said no more big dogs after we lost our last old girl. We already had corgis, so I showed him…I just got more corgis!! Once you have had a corgi, i don’t think you will ever want to be without one or several.
I’ve only had 1 corgi as a puppy. The others have all been adult or senior rescues. Each has had a different personality, but they all have been wonderful. They are very smart and easy to train, although some of them can be a tad stubborn. If you let them rule the roost, they will take over. Most of them do like being in charge. Generally,I think the girls tend to be more dominant than the boys. All of mine have been pems. I would LOVE to have a cardi, but there just haven’t been any in rescue at the time when there was a room at our inn. A lady who lives near me has 4 cardis that I sometimes dog sit. They seem to be a bit less rowdy than the pems, but they are certainly just as smart and loving. They are just a bit more laid-back. I don’t think you would go wrong with either type. Good Luck!!!

Former lifetime Lab girl

but we just lost our beloved Corgi, Miles, in February. We had 12, wonderful, fun filled years with him. Wouldn’t have traded it for anything. Easiest dog I’ve ever trained, he simply never put a foot wrong, never chewed, never had an accident in the house, loved the company of his humans, happy enough to be by himself and nap. He announced every night at exactly 10pm, by sitting directly in front of the television and sort of blowing air through his cheeks, that it was time for my husband and I to go to bed to he didn’t have to “keep watch” and he could go to sleep. My husband was his best friend, I was his ticket outside for adventures, his herding instinct was perfect, he had a down stay that would last forever. It was like having a little furry imp in our lives and the hole his absence left is deep and wide.

Simply the smartest dog ever, with much more “presence” than any other dog I, or my friends have known. Born with manners and good sense.

He was a stunning sable and white male, a real head turner.

He only shed twice a year. For six months at a time. When I brushed him when his coat was blowing, it looked like I’d weed whacked a Collie.

Topped out at a robust 42 pounds, barked only when necessary, “chortled” when happy or when trying to talk you into an extra cookie. Had a large vocabulary, you could tell by how he “spoke” which cat was coming up fro the barn.

He insisted that we go outside, feed the cats, turn the horses in/out, ride in the golf cart, hang out on the porch at the same time, each day. There was no sleeping in, you got an extra 15 minutes if, and only if, he was picked up to be on the bed with me. He ran the farm with military precision, make no mistake, this place was his, he shared it with those he loved. He was a confirmed “only” dog, other dogs could visit, but they must be gone by dark or he made his displeasure quite clear.

He was that rare mix of fearlessly loyal and quite independent. Not a snuggle bug, he’d jump up on the couch, get an ear rub, then go to the other end of the sofa, push all the decorative pillows off with his nose, then stretch out for a nap on “his side”. Every night. Loved his barn cats, and knew when there was one less or an intruder to be chased to the edge of the property. Moused like a terrier. When he did bark he sounded like he weighed a hundred pounds.

He was one of a kind, and except for some timid rescue Corgis I’ve met (and timid is considered a fault) I’ve never met one I didn’t like.

If you want to come home at night to a dog who smiles and is glad to see you, and you don’t mind the Corgi fuzz, which will be everywhere in spite of your best efforts, I’d get a Corgi. Once you’ve had one, it simply spoils you for any other breed.
And if you get the right one, it will spoil you for any other dog.

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If you want to come home at night to a dog who smiles and is glad to see you, and you don’t mind the Corgi fuzz, which will be everywhere in spite of your best efforts, I’d get a Corgi. Once you’ve had one, it simply spoils you for any other breed.
And if you get the right one, it will spoil you for any other dog.[/QUOTE]

Your tribute made me cry and made me miss all the good Corgis I’ve had that are now gone. I especially miss my Duncan…the sweetest boy …

Great tribute to Miles 2ndyrgal and I’m so sorry for both you and your husband for your loss. I have owned Corgis for 30 years and won’t consider another type of dog. Their understanding of vocabulary is immense and they certainly have a great sense of humor. Their personality type just meshes with mine.

2ndyrgal - My corgi, Stewart, also tells us promptly at 10pm that it is time to go to bed and also does not let us sleep in either.

Oh Indy – that was beautiful! I am sitting here sniffling, with my Borgi dog (7/8 cardi, 1/8 Border collie) tilting his head and wondering why. Arlo, for all intents and purposes, is full-on Corgi, and I’ve already warned my husband that I could all-to-easily end up being the crazy Corgi-lady, and have a half dozen of these guys.

Mine is irresistible! He is gorgeous, happy, funny and has a great sense of humor. He DOES rule the roost…I am pretty much resigned to that! But he is always respectful, never pushy and just the most charming dog ever. I could now never imagine having anything but a Corgi!

(Oh – and check out the Corgi Dogs page on FB!)

I saw an ad for a free Corgi on craigslist. I could not help myself and went to look. Of course, I ended up bringing him home and he is adorable. His name is Gunior. He is a Pembroke/Cardigan cross. He is sweet, mischievous and very loving.

Also, Gunior is one of the easiest dogs to train I have ever met. No mistakes in the house, no chewing unless it is on toys or chews, and very trainable.

I am a German Shepherd lover at heart. While Gunior is a good, sweet dog, I am looking for a German Shepherd to replace my shepherd who passed away in March. That being said…my husband and son think Corgi’s are The.Best.Breed.Ever.

Here are a couple of pics. He is a good, sweet dog and I would recommend a Corgi to anyone!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Jamie2337/Pets/IMG_4556.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Jamie2337/Pets/IMG_0370.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Jamie2337/Pets/IMG_2610.jpg

Correct me if I am wrong, but a Cardi descends from the hound group while a Pem descends from the spitz group.

Either way, corgis are so much fun. My dream is be a crazy old corgi lady, driving around with a carful of them in a cadillac convertible in a giant hat and sun glasses!

Who ever said that they are the perfect partner in crime is correct, they are game for just about anything!

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Here are a couple of pics. He is a good, sweet dog and I would recommend a Corgi to anyone!

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Jamie2337/Pets/IMG_4556.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Jamie2337/Pets/IMG_0370.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c345/Jamie2337/Pets/IMG_2610.jpg[/QUOTE]

MELT

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Correct me if I am wrong, but a Cardi descends from the hound group while a Pem descends from the terrier group.

Either way, corgis are so much fun. My dream is be a crazy old corgi lady, driving around with a carful of them in a cadillac convertible in a giant hat and sun glasses!

Who ever said that they are the perfect partner in crime is correct, they are game for just about anything![/QUOTE]

I’ve never heard that, but it would not surprise me re: the terrier group.

The BEST website evah…for corgi lovers…I’m addicted, I check it at least 3 times daily…

http://corgiaddict.com/

Corgi person here, will not ever have another breed. I’ve had cardigans for close to 40 years, they are fantastic dogs. Level-headed, serious yet very goofy, very trainable, kind dogs. Great watch-dogs, some are more hard-wired to herd than others.

Biggest drawback of either Pem or Cardi? Shedding. At my house we always joke that corgi hair is a condiment - sadly it isn’t that much of a joke.

They can have back problems (DM, IVDD). Responsible corgi breeders now test for DM (degen. myopathy), which IIRC effects pems more than cardis. If you have a lot of steps, it would be wise to build a ramp or do something to mitigage jumping. Also, beware of obesity. These dogs (pems and cardis both) have a way of psychically willing you to give them treats; you must manage to resist!

Another drawback? They are like potato chips, you can’t have just one!

"A Cardi would be an owl, ever watchful, wise and observant.

A Pem would be a magpie, flitting here and there and storing interesting objects." (from the book “Everything Corgis”)

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If you want to come home at night to a dog who smiles and is glad to see you, and you don’t mind the Corgi fuzz, which will be everywhere in spite of your best efforts, I’d get a Corgi. Once you’ve had one, it simply spoils you for any other breed.

And if you get the right one, it will spoil you for any other dog.[/QUOTE]

Been there, done that, still miss him every day.

I have another one now; he’s a wonderful little fellow, and I love him and the other two dogs I have now. But that thing about having the right one … absolutely the truth.

I recommend Trinity Corgis and Ponies. You might want to pick up one of their Shetland ponies, too. :wink:

They’re on Facebook. I have a friend who has one of their puppies and the puppy is beautiful.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Trinity-Corgis-Ponies/103643579104

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I’ve never heard that, but it would not surprise me re: the terrier group.[/QUOTE]

oops. Correction is apparently Pem’s descend from Spitz group…