Nothing will help the sport anyhow. I believe it’s doomed and will be banned soon from the Olympics…
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EAB’s group is not in any way, shape, or form making things better for anyone or anything. He, Nick, and Susan W are all the same.
It occurs to me that he relies heavily on posting definitions of words. I have one for his consideration:
bombastic
forceful and confident in a way that is intended to be very powerful and impressive, but may not have much real meaning or effect:
His bombastic manner is a front for deep insecurity.
a bombastic preacher
a bombastic statement
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I believe there are huge problems in equine sports, yes, in dressage-land but this is just weird.
I don’t know what he is basing these numbers on (reacts to a post??) but “minions of the elite?” Reminds me of a certain other megalomaniac that likes to run his fingers after he is insulted.
I’m in several other classical and historical dressage groups on FB and none are doing this. Once again, how is this useful or helpful to the horses, riders or sport?
Edited to add: And the language “learn correct dressage” indicates not the desire for a discussion, but rather a platform.
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It feels like it’s bad, but a different bad than Anky and Bonfire, for example. he didn’t even look like a developed horse, he looked jammed and crammed.
OR-
Is it just as jammed and crammed and we’ve just bred more athletic horses?
That’s not a trappy question, I mean it to be a fair one.
https://www.youtube.com/live/xAHC3oS7EN8?si=9CziqFLwEzVsTb6l
I looked around in this video and saw a lot to like, and a lot to be a little mmmmm about.
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Have you thought about starting your own group? You have a lot more knowledge and capability than A.B. does for sure
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Thank you for the link, I will try to watch it… I watched most of the competitors in Paris and there were a lot of bad things to see…. Some nice things as well…. In the past nobody tried to adress problems very seriously… and as a result some disappeared but the trainer became more and more confident about their power to do what they wanted…
. look at Carina Kruth and Helgstrand……I cry every time I think about that video. Heilines Danciera is such a beautiful beautiful horse 
… I believe they destroyed her mentally with it…
Not sure if you want to make fun of me, but no, I am not interested in starting a new group. There are millions of it already if you look around… I prefer to be independent 
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All that can be true, but a pied piper to the dressage promised land that resembles AB, NP, or other sham trainers isn’t the answer.
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Why should you have to not comment or like to avoid being banished?!
Yikes.
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Um no, not making fun of you. You can’t see that you are much better rider than him and know more? (I’m dead serious.) Anyways I thought you liked discussions so it was just a thought.
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He will ban people for saying anything counter to his copied and pasted set of the rulebook and Webster’s dictionary.
I think Kyra stepped in it (intentionally or not, IDK) to even talk about the quibbling detail of the micro-seconds related to a hind foot landing before a forefoot at the trot. I mean, seriously. That’s like explaining in a recipe that it’s not really just ‘25 g of coarse kosher salt’ or ‘one rounded tablespoon’ instead it’s really 543 individual grains of coarse kosher salt. Whether intentional or not, that was a bomb because the textbook says it’s a two-beat gait.
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There have been a number of attempts to start new “friendlier” groups in the wake of a crazy dustup like this one (these are cyclical, it seems.) They always “die out” from lack of interest.
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He wants an echo chamber, one that never challenges his thoughts.
Begs the question why anyone would want to enter that chamber in the first place.
Sounds empty, rigid and therefore not a place for actual learning.
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https://www.facebook.com/share/p/Ys8kneypsEDJAMHS/?mibextid=oFDknk
Here’s an alternative group. Historical Dressage. I’m not very active in it but it seems like a lot of the post have plenty of comments and conversation. I don’t know anything about the admins or anything.
This post was a bit interesting to me. For myself I wonder if it’s more of a breeding thing than a hyperflexion thing but the discussion is very interesting.
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You might already know this by now, but you can choose to block certain Facebook users from seeing your posts. So if you are getting unwanted critiques, you can block your posts from being seen by those people,and still remain friends with them. You do have to do it every time, unless you NEVER want them to see anything.
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Yeah I know this now but I didn’t years ago. I’m not sure if she even posted too much on her own Facebook so I just found it best to interact with her just in different groups or rather just read what she wrote on different groups. She was never rude or even overly critical. I do very much believe she wants to help everybody and she’s one that I do believe wants the best for the horses.
But years ago I had a really hard time posting anything in my riding because all I could see were my flaws. And eventually I said screw it "This is a moment of my life that I enjoy and I want to be able to look back on it, imperfections and all "
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Agree, especially when a poster on this BB is over on that FB egging him on to ban people. How do you learn through discussion if you’re afraid to discuss or even like a post? Or if you get instantly banned?
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I agree that the Correct Dressage FB is a conundrum. There is a combination of some people able to have relatively informed decisions paired with many newbies, with the whole page run by a BSC troll. There weren’t enough experts beyond the ever-present Paula, I don’t have any energy left for splitting hairs on terminology with newbies, and the presence of a troll page owner/ moderator muddies and limits things. I also understand that there aren’t too many FB groups or chat groups on the topic, and perhaps the continuous threat of drama makes it more compelling.
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I agree that Dressage has big problems and I have said so (along with many others) on the COTH forums, however we can discuss the issues here without fear of being banned.
I didn’t watch the Dressage during the Olympics because it has ceased to be a pleasure for me, so I understand your disappointment in upper level dressage.
I think it is relevant that Allan Buck is a bad rider and a fraud. Why do you think he seems so worried that someone will post the video of his “Dressage schooling” on Facebook?
It seems as though he feels that some people will care that he has no qualifications to even know what “Correct Dressage schooling” is and I think he’s right to worry. The horse he is riding in that video is obviously uncomfortable and confused, the same complaint he has about upper level horses.
He’s held himself up as knowledgeable about teaching riders and he’s not, he is completely unqualified. He seems to be trying to worm his way into “teaching” again and its only a matter of time until he tries to profit from it.
I hope you are right, and that he stays in his own Facebook land, pretending to be an expert and not trying to do anything Dressage IRL.
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Sometimes when we are passionate about a cause, we are willing to make alliances with people who we know are cray-cray or problematic, or whose ultimate goals are in conflict with us. I’m not passionate enough about changing competitive dressage to join up with or tolerate the Alan Bucks, the NPs, the Dressage Hubs, of the world, And I am leery about anything to encourage the PITA/ nonriding/ liberty on the beach crowd either. I can just ignore competitive dressage and do my own thing. I agree that much of it violates the principles of dressage but its also not the most abusive thing people do with horses, by a long shot.
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