Cost of Building a Barn

Sorry if this thread has been done to death, but I am curious about the cost of building a barn.

I am talking taking vacant land and putting an 8 to 10 stall barn with tackroom, wash stall, feed room etc. - not the fanciest thing in the world, but nicely done. An outdoor ring and paddocks. In terms of the paddocks probably 6 to 8 to start - nothing crazy huge, I am looking at property that is about 13 acres.

So assuming that that there is no zoning, permit or building issues - and the land is ready to go, anyone have a rough estimate of the cost?

TIA.

Too many variables to give you even a ballpark.
Pole building or wood?
Complete w/stalls or just the shell?
If builder provides stalls: style? Appointments?
Excavation & prep of the base done?
Electric & plumbing included?
And so on & so forth…

Just to throw something out of there, 11 years ago my 36X36 2 stall (12X12 with grilles between & sliding doors to aisle, dutch doors to outside) including base prep for barn & 60X120 attached indoor, stonedust flooring in barn & stalls, 2" angular sand for indoor, electric (cold-ballast fluorescent: 4 fixtures in barn, 15 in arena) plumbing g to tie house into frostfree hydrant inside the barn, ran just under $80K.
Add another $10K to fence 3ac in Centaur-clone top rail w/3lines coated tensile (middle can carry a charge) & install 7 5-bar aluminum gates.

I would think at least 150K and more likely 200K. A lot would depend on how involved you get with grading, base and footing on the outdoor. Concrete, lighting, electrical, drainage for the wash rack, stall mats, stall materials all add up quickly. Water and electric are going to be expensive if there is no existing service. We have nearly 80K just in fencing on our 9 acres.

Most municipalities are getting really pissy with compacted materials and large buildings. Around here, anything over 5,000 square feet needs a complete storm water review and water flow plan. Over 20,000 square feet requires a detention and retention plan, that alone could be over 100K.

I can tell you what it cost us to put in fencing (25 acres or so fenced), 80x200 arena, 11 stall barn= $200,000 that does not include $16,000 for shavings bin big enough to hold tractor trailer load, roughly $20,000 for hay barn going in this year, can’t remember how much to plant the pastures, $1500 for round pen. I am sure there is more that ads up, just hate to think about it too much!!

the answer seems to always be twice or possibly triple what ever you have set the budget for…few if any ever come in under budget

NJ is one of those “high regulation” states, IIRC. If you are in a “high regulation” county in that high regulation state then you’ll have to plan a budget for dealing with the Alphabet Soup. Just how big that budget has to be will likely be driven by just where in the state and county you are.

As to construction costs, a starting “ball park” range will likely be $25-$50/sq. ft. In a more urban area plan on the high end of the range; in a more rural area the lower end. But even that can get turned around. In urban areas there will be more competition for building so while the the base will be higher more folks might want the work. It also depends on the general economy. If it’s average to “lackluster” more folks will be scrambling for work. If it’s really good this kind of a project won’t appeal to them. If it’s really bad the number of competitors may be driven down and that will drive the price to the higher end.

If the land is pretty flat and well drained then your costs for paddocks and the like will be reasonable. If it’s not and you have to deal with water flow and the like then you’re looking at $80-$100/hr. for machine time (backhoe, dozer, etc.).

Plan on your own equipment. For 13 acres you’ll need, at a minimum, a 30-40 hp. tractor with a front end loader; bush hog; mowing deck or riding lawn mower; drag; spray rig; wagon; generator; and such things you would need to deal with cold weather (which we don’t need here in East TN :slight_smile: ). Some “nice to haves” include an auger, ATV (Gator, Mule, etc.), arena groomer, etc.

Frankly, to do this, you have to have some decent capital. If you plan to board ensure that the the market will support a new entrant.

Good luck in your program.

G.

I’m in a similar boat, and have been making it a full time job to create the budget.

What I’ve gotten so far:
10 stall barn, same amenities as you: $140,000-$160,000 (waiting for roofing quotes)
140 x 280 arena, including fencing $35,000
Paddocks, including shelters (Ramm with no climb underneath) $15,000
Reeling head, nausea, panic attacks: priceless

This is with excavation hired but us doing all the rest of the work ourselves. Tractor, implemetnts to do this, adds another $25,000

Add to that how much your taxes will increase on all the improvements you make to that land.

And don’t forget you’ll need a tractor…truck…trailer…all those buckets and manure forks and a couple of hitching rails, maybe a loafing shed or two out in the pastures for shelter…and on, and on, and on.

Mud management can cost an arm and a leg, too, depending on your soil and climate. Ask me how I know this.

Worth it, but it’s all cost way more than I’d anticipated. Good thing I spread it out over several years.

an unplanned for cost would be the structures not completed on time; if you do build have a reasonable competition date in the construction contract. There should also be an escalating penalty clause that becomes more harsh as time extends.

On the other side reward early completion

[QUOTE=Bluey;8101052]
Add to that how much your taxes will increase on all the improvements you make to that land.[/QUOTE]

This^^^^ we forgot this little part of our barn building process. We were quite surprised how much it increased the value of our place! However, it also benefited us as the tax assessor realized we had fenced in over 8 acres of land so now we qualified as a “farm” so that reduced our taxes.

Be prepared for over run’s in the cost. As much as you plan and think you’ve budgeted for everything there will always be something that pops up and adds more cost. When calculating the costs, don’t forget stall mats, feeders, finished carpentry for the tack room, cabinets, sinks, light fixtures, insulation, people-doors, plumbing, water lines, sewage lines, getting the electric company out to put up electric poles and run wiring etc. There are a million little things that you forget to think about along with all the big things. Heed what other’s have said about all the implements that go with owning a farm, tractors, tractor implements etc.

We had a 24 x 40 very simple all metal barn built in 2003 and it cost us $15,000 excluding stalls, electric, and water.

And we live in an Ag county in TN, where zoning, permits, etc was not a big deal at that time.

After reading everyone’s input. You might be better off buying an already established piece of propterty and making modifications over time, as I cannot imagine anything being cheap anywhere in New Jersey. “Making it your own” can be accomplished with anything; it just takes a creative mind:)

If you already have the vacant land, you could surely sell it for a small profit after you find an established piece of property.

When you are looking at vacant land, something I encourage you to ask is why it is still vacant.

In any given area, the prime building spots are taken first. At this point in time, if your parcel wasn’t one of those spots, it would be good to know why - part of a really awesome larger parcel? No electrical? Poor soils? No water? Too much water? Zoning restrictions?

No need to tell us, just make sure you’re satisfied with the answer to that question and that it won’t impede you before you sign on the dotted line.

The other thing to consider apart from the raw $ is your time, which will be considerable in planning and overseeing the work, even if you have a great GC that you trust. If you are working full time elsewhere, it is a substantial burden to be on the property to meet people and answer questions, and to make all the selections and shopping. IE, you may also have a drop in your income while you are making it all happen.

I would guess NJ is going to be big on storm water mgmt. like PA. We are required to do Land Development Plans which means hiring an engineering firm. Then you have to implement storm water controls. Those will add $$. Many variables - it’s own well, tie into house, how far from house, how far are utilities coming from, basic stalls or fancy, how much grading. I’ve been getting quotes for adding onto our barn and making a guess from that, minimal prep and everything easy and close to hook into could be as low as 50K, but could go significantly higher real quick with regulatory requirements, higher end options or significant unseen costs (like grading, new well etc.)

Thank you all so much for your responses - I realize that there are many variables that would effect cost, but those that provided some estimates from your experiences have been very helpful (in that I really didn’t think it would cost that much so it has been a big reality check for me). Probably better to search for something that is already built - or at least part way built. Thanks again!

Other things that come into play that you didn’t say–are you doing it yourself or paying someone to do it all, and do you need it all done at once? And also what type of everything do you want. For instance, all wood or no-climb fence or electrobraid, plywood or plank stalls or fancy fronts.

If you answer no to diy and yes to all at once, it’s going to get into big money, I would think.

We bought 51 acres that had an old tobacco barn, a garden shed and one line of fencing, but it’s beautiful land, at the right price, in a location we love, and we are super handy and DIY, plus I have the time to DIY.

For us, we fenced 51 acres with t-posts and electrobraid–1 30 acre pasture, 1 10 acre pasture, 1 five acre pasture, and 2 paddocks. Less than $3500. We didn’t know exactly how we wanted it fenced because we didn’t know how water flowed, so we needed something that we could move as needed. Now 1 1/2 years later, we are moving some of the fence lines to what works better and are probably going to be getting some wooden posts pounded in on certain fencelines, but will be staying with Electrobraid, except for my dogs’ yard. LOL–the dogs are currently fenced in with Electrobraid too, but I’ll be going with some kind of mesh along the road to keep the neighbors little yappers out of the yard.

Our horses pretty much live out, so we opened up a side of the tobacco barn to make it user friendly as a run in shed, and I built a plywood stall in one corner for in case, and a “tack room” in the other. The garden shed got a reinforced floor and is a perfectly adequate run in shed for our stallion.

We are completely DIYing our barn. 7 12x16 stalls, 15 tie type feeding stalls, a 16 foot aisleway, indoor wash stall, and 12x16 feed/tack room. Monitor style pole barn with eventual hay loft over the center aisle. Cost for supplies only is between $10,000-12,000 depending on where I get the lumber–and I’m really only looking at the big box stores like Lowes and 84 Lumber. I’m not charging for my labor. We are doing plywood walls 4 foot high with rails above that, stonedust floors, except in the wash stall, t1-11 type exterior walls. Doors will be racetrack type webbings in the aisle way and dutch doors on the 7 box stalls. Later down the line, we’ll had the hayloft floor, mats in the stalls, maybe some drop down windows to add more ventilation, dress up the tack room, auto waterers and so on. It will be safe and workmanlike and as attractive as I can make it, but so, so, so far from fancy. But we don’t have boarders who might complain.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

[QUOTE=Chestnut Run;8102986]
Other things that come into play that you didn’t say–are you doing it yourself or paying someone to do it all, and do you need it all done at once? And also what type of everything do you want. For instance, all wood or no-climb fence or electrobraid, plywood or plank stalls or fancy fronts.

If you answer no to diy and yes to all at once, it’s going to get into big money, I would think.

We bought 51 acres that had an old tobacco barn, a garden shed and one line of fencing, but it’s beautiful land, at the right price, in a location we love, and we are super handy and DIY, plus I have the time to DIY.

For us, we fenced 51 acres with t-posts and electrobraid–1 30 acre pasture, 1 10 acre pasture, 1 five acre pasture, and 2 paddocks. Less than $3500. We didn’t know exactly how we wanted it fenced because we didn’t know how water flowed, so we needed something that we could move as needed. Now 1 1/2 years later, we are moving some of the fence lines to what works better and are probably going to be getting some wooden posts pounded in on certain fencelines, but will be staying with Electrobraid, except for my dogs’ yard. LOL–the dogs are currently fenced in with Electrobraid too, but I’ll be going with some kind of mesh along the road to keep the neighbors little yappers out of the yard.

Our horses pretty much live out, so we opened up a side of the tobacco barn to make it user friendly as a run in shed, and I built a plywood stall in one corner for in case, and a “tack room” in the other. The garden shed got a reinforced floor and is a perfectly adequate run in shed for our stallion.

We are completely DIYing our barn. 7 12x16 stalls, 15 tie type feeding stalls, a 16 foot aisleway, indoor wash stall, and 12x16 feed/tack room. Monitor style pole barn with eventual hay loft over the center aisle. Cost for supplies only is between $10,000-12,000 depending on where I get the lumber–and I’m really only looking at the big box stores like Lowes and 84 Lumber. I’m not charging for my labor. We are doing plywood walls 4 foot high with rails above that, stonedust floors, except in the wash stall, t1-11 type exterior walls. Doors will be racetrack type webbings in the aisle way and dutch doors on the 7 box stalls. Later down the line, we’ll had the hayloft floor, mats in the stalls, maybe some drop down windows to add more ventilation, dress up the tack room, auto waterers and so on. It will be safe and workmanlike and as attractive as I can make it, but so, so, so far from fancy. But we don’t have boarders who might complain.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.[/QUOTE]

Don’t want to hijack, but I have a question for you.
Those 12’ x 16’ stalls, do you like them like that, or would you, given the space, have made them 14’ x 16’?
We can do either, can’t make our minds up!

We have 25’ from column to column and could do two 12’ x 12’ stalls in each one, but the runs off the stalls are just too narrow for us at 12’ wide, horses fuss too much there.
We are going with three 16’ wide runs and so stalls, but can do 12’ or 14’ x 16’ for every two 25’ bays.

To the OP, yes, buying already built is considerably cheaper, even with light remodeling, over building today, as expensive and complicated as everything is getting to be now.

[QUOTE=Bluey;8103173]
Don’t want to hijack, but I have a question for you.
Those 12’ x 16’ stalls, do you like them like that, or would you, given the space, have made them 14’ x 16’?
We can do either, can’t make our mind.[/QUOTE]

I love the 12x16 for us. A little bit bigger than a typical stall. We can open the wall between two for a 24x16 foaling or layup stall, or as is, they are big enough for a mare and foal to be comfortable. Also, for me, keeping all the measurements on 4 foot increments makes the building easier and more economical. If money and flat land were no object, I’d have 20x20 stalls, but since both are budgeted…:slight_smile: We do plan to have a few stalls with private runs, but we pretty much have a closed herd and know who can go next to who in “tight” quarters.

[QUOTE=Chestnut Run;8103614]
I love the 12x16 for us. A little bit bigger than a typical stall. We can open the wall between two for a 24x16 foaling or layup stall, or as is, they are big enough for a mare and foal to be comfortable. Also, for me, keeping all the measurements on 4 foot increments makes the building easier and more economical. If money and flat land were no object, I’d have 20x20 stalls, but since both are budgeted…:slight_smile: We do plan to have a few stalls with private runs, but we pretty much have a closed herd and know who can go next to who in “tight” quarters.[/QUOTE]

Thank you so much for your answer.

We have had all standard sizes of stalls, right now have 14’ x 14’, but didn’t know if it was worth the extra 2’ in one dimension and 2’ less in the other one.
We had to cut more metal up going 14’, as you say.
Our sheets are 4’ x 8’, so multiples of 4 work best to figure how much to order and has the least waste.

Glad to know 12’ x 16’ is nice to live with.