Crazy Parelli Lady Has Left the Building (or not...)

[Vesper_Sparrow]

We had one last winter (or was it the winter before that…). My BO took pity on her but it didn’t last long. She monopolized the busy indoor giving lessons and even a clinic (neither of which she was supposed to do under the barn rules). She pretends to be a high-level dressage rider and proposed to give boarders “biomechanics” lessons. And she told me unasked that my naughty, friendly and self-confident gelding was a left-brain extrovert. I couldn’t have figured that out on my own…

Sooooo happy when she left.

[mortgagemyhorse]

[QUOTE=Bluey;7744876]
Here you may learn an earful or ten about the Parelli system, when it finally did hit the fan, no denying what it is any more, after this came to light:

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?247238-is-this-really-linda-parelli&highlight=Is%20this%20Linda%20Parelli[/QUOTE]

Oh My God. This is frightening. What percentage of riders follow this?

I have only made it to page 6 of the 45 page thread, do these Parelli supporters come in the picture?

Carrot stick…like an actual carrot? That’s what they use?

[SoonieOTTB]

[QUOTE=Vesper Sparrow;7744898]
We had one last winter (or was it the winter before that…). My BO took pity on her but it didn’t last long. She monopolized the busy indoor giving lessons and even a clinic (neither of which she was supposed to do under the barn rules). She pretends to be a high-level dressage rider and proposed to give boarders “biomechanics” lessons. And she told me unasked that my naughty, friendly and self-confident gelding was a left-brain extrovert. I couldn’t have figured that out on my own…

Sooooo happy when she left.[/QUOTE]

I had to google “upper and lower canada”, because I was afraid you’d run into the exact same person I had (and dear lord, she is a terror), but apparently, other coast.

At least your “upper level” rider didn’t go on and on and on about her blog? and how she was a magickal grand prix black stallion horse whisperer, only-true-classical-dressage-trainer-ever.

(she also trimmer her horse so short she was lame, other boarder and I held/doctored her horse for 4 hrs in a snow storm b/c someone was too stoned to understand why we were calling her - and then later told us we were doing it wrong, and a month later dumped said mare on cl)

[Alagirl]

[QUOTE=mortgagemyhorse;7744950]

Carrot stick…like an actual carrot? That’s what they use?[/QUOTE]

It’s a bright orange colored stick, a bit heavier than a dressage whip.
Peeps in the know say it’s a re-branded cattle sorting stick, which you can buy at tractor supply for a fraction of what the ‘Savvy folks’ pay from the Great One…

[walktrot]

[QUOTE=Alagirl;7744980]
It’s a bright orange colored stick, a bit heavier than a dressage whip.
Peeps in the know say it’s a re-branded cattle sorting stick, which you can buy at tractor supply for a fraction of what the ‘Savvy folks’ pay from the Great One…[/QUOTE]

Or a pig-sorting stick. Valley Vet has them in the livestock catalog for about 10 bucks a pop. But they don’t have that $1.00 shot of savvy string.

[Sonesta]

As a BO, I will not accept a follower of the Parellis into my barn. I’d rather have a barn full of empty stalls than a single Parelli nutjob.

[Appsolute]

[QUOTE=mortgagemyhorse;7744950]
Oh My God. This is frightening. What percentage of riders follow this?

I have only made it to page 6 of the 45 page thread, do these Parelli supporters come in the picture?

Carrot stick…like an actual carrot? That’s what they use?[/QUOTE]

See, good ol’ Pat likes to use “warm and fuzzy” terms for regular old horse equipment. Because well, that is what these stupid woman like to hear (sorry, I just can’t be nice about it)

THIS is a “carrot stick” (thing being pointed at unamused horse) its basically a short stiff lunge whip (or like others have said - a pig mover), with a long lash attached (ohhhh but don’t call it a “lash” - thats meanie stuff, the Parellis call it a “string”)

Speaking of strings, lunge lines are not long lines, they are “strings” accourding to pepperoni.

And you do not “lunge” a horse - no no no, they play the “circle game”

Understanding now? Lunging, lunge lines and lunge whips have been around forever - but PP has this new AMAZING training method that does the “circle game” using “strings” and “carrot sticks” :dead:

Oh also note - the “string” has a nice big ol’ clasp on it. Thats good for clunking the horse in the head with.

Oh and look! Here PP is using his carrot sticks to force a young foal to jump logs…

HERE! You can get the whole kit! Rope halter, string with clasp for clunking, and carrot stick for the low low price of $120!!!

Like PT Barnum said…“there is a sucker born every minute”

[wood_snake]

OK, my parelli loading story. Several years ago I sold a very nice warmblood cross filly to a classic ‘peparoni’ ( love that name by the way. We call them the poki poki twirly twirly people) They come to pick her up in a very nice large 4 horse slant. I’m thrilled with the trailer because I had visions of a Craigslist nightmare. Lady wants to load the filly so they can “start their journey together”. Fine, filly is very well trained and level headed. Lady walks up to the trailer and stops. Filly stops. Lady twirls rope. Filly blinks at her. Lady walks her away from the trailer. This is repeated 4 or 5 times. Lady explains to me that the human must never enter the trailer, the horse must load on her own or the training is a failure. THEN she says that this training can be time consuming. (I bet!) She has allotted 6 (!!) Hours to get this done today. Its Saturday. My day off. I look at my husband. He looks back at me and I say (with a smile) the filly and I have an extra special magical connection and may be she just needs to feel my presence near the trailer. I take the lead rope, hubby falls in behind the filly ( he’s very well trained) I walk into the trailer, filly follows me, hubby closes her in and I tie her up. The look on that woman’s face was priceless. She said it was the most amazing piece of horsemanship she had ever seen and my deep spiritual bond with the filly was what she hoped to have with her someday. If I was half as clever as I think I am I should have told her that I would teach a clinic for her and all her friends and it wouldn’t cost very much. Really. I could be retired by now.

[Vesper_Sparrow]

[QUOTE=SoonieOTTB;7744953]
I had to google “upper and lower canada”, because I was afraid you’d run into the exact same person I had (and dear lord, she is a terror), but apparently, other coast.

At least your “upper level” rider didn’t go on and on and on about her blog? and how she was a magickal grand prix black stallion horse whisperer, only-true-classical-dressage-trainer-ever.

(she also trimmer her horse so short she was lame, other boarder and I held/doctored her horse for 4 hrs in a snow storm b/c someone was too stoned to understand why we were calling her - and then later told us we were doing it wrong, and a month later dumped said mare on cl)[/QUOTE]

Mine recommended a barefoot trimmer friend of hers for my gelding’s foot problems but I ran, ran, ran away from that one… But it is sad to see other people (usually novices or those too scared to ride) put their trust in this particular woman when there are so many other people better qualified to help them. People really do lack common sense or somehow they think horses can be simplified, which is not the case. As someone said earlier, there is no substitute for years of experience.

[Sandy_M]

[QUOTE=wood snake;7745120]
OK, my parelli loading story. Several years ago I sold a very nice warmblood cross filly to a classic ‘peparoni’ ( love that name by the way. We call them the poki poki twirly twirly people) They come to pick her up in a very nice large 4 horse slant. I’m thrilled with the trailer because I had visions of a Craigslist nightmare. Lady wants to load the filly so they can “start their journey together”. Fine, filly is very well trained and level headed. Lady walks up to the trailer and stops. Filly stops. Lady twirls rope. Filly blinks at her. Lady walks her away from the trailer. This is repeated 4 or 5 times. Lady explains to me that the human must never enter the trailer, the horse must load on her own or the training is a failure. THEN she says that this training can be time consuming. (I bet!) She has allotted 6 (!!) Hours to get this done today. Its Saturday. My day off. I look at my husband. He looks back at me and I say (with a smile) the filly and I have an extra special magical connection and may be she just needs to feel my presence near the trailer. I take the lead rope, hubby falls in behind the filly ( he’s very well trained) I walk into the trailer, filly follows me, hubby closes her in and I tie her up. The look on that woman’s face was priceless. She said it was the most amazing piece of horsemanship she had ever seen and my deep spiritual bond with the filly was what she hoped to have with her someday. If I was half as clever as I think I am I should have told her that I would teach a clinic for her and all her friends and it wouldn’t cost very much. Really. I could be retired by now.[/QUOTE]

Well, as annoyed/amused as I can be by the Pepperonis and their followers, I have to say they aren’t the only weirdos out there. We had a gal at our barn much enamored of clicker training. But she clicked for EVERYTHING, all the time, to the point where her mare hadn’t the least idea what response her “trainer” wanted. So…comes time to leave for college (sigh), and thereupon we have 3-4 hours of clicking and mare running backwards and getting away, and… well, you get the picture. She finally asked the BO (80-ish old cowboy) to help her. With her at the horse’s head and gentle tapping with a dressage whip and rewarding mare for every forward step, it took about…5 minutes to get her in the trailer. ROFLOL

[trubandloki]

Darn, I was totally hoping for photos of the little notes.

[Sparrowette]

[QUOTE=Chachie;7744644]
Finally, we had had enough. We made a chute, I made the mare do a million small circles, a friend cracked a whip and the mare jumped on the trailer within 5 minutes. Afterwards we got emails about how we should be more natural and less cowboyish, etc. whatever. [/QUOTE]

Cripes… What’s NATURAL about making a horse jump into a small stall in a box on wheels tied behind a truck that will likely be rolling down a highway at 55 or 60+? Quite frankly, “Natural” usually doesn’t exist for horses (except the wild mustangs) and never exists for horses kept by humans for use.

I know that there are people here on COTH who will disagree with me, but I do believe there are times, with certain horses in certain situations where “cowboy-up” is the method to use. A good cowboy will get a bad/sour horse to “come to Jesus” more quickly than many other ways, and that can be the difference between owner sending mare to the auction or saddling up and heading for the trail. That is a situation I’ve actually seen. There were two mares who actually had to be headed and heeled to be caught, because they would go into rearing bug-eyed fits at the mere SIGHT of a halter.

What those mares went through was hard to look at, but I knew it made the difference between going home and carrying the owner around the trails, or a very short visit to sunny Mexico.

[Chachie]

Oh no Sparowette, it wasn’t the buyer who suggested the chute, it was me and my friend, the seller. We were trying to be polite and pacify the new owner, as my friend was afraid she might back out at the last minute. Finally, we had had enough with the NH crap and yes, we cowboyed up, made the chute and got the daggone mare in the dang trailer and on her way.
Because of that incident, I tolerate to a point NH stuff but I am old school and know that there are times when that stuff just won’t fly. I, too, am very leery of NH owners who want to board at my barn. I have said more than once to a potential boarder that my barn just isn’t the place for them because I heard the name Parelli or John Lyons or Clinton Anderson. Some of the NH trainers are as bad as Parelli but I don’t want anyone to cross over that line into Pepperoni Land and think it is ok to shove down our throats here. I also don’t allow clicker trained horses here either. It’s one thing to do for fun but like the poster’s experience above, I don’t want to go through something like that so I steer clear of it.

[Paks]

Personally I’d let the police know you had a case of trespassing. Minor though it is, it shows the woman to be a bit unbalanced. They could perhaps stop by her house and talk to her.

[ChocoMare]

[QUOTE=Sonesta;7745044]
As a BO, I will not accept a follower of the Parellis into my barn. I’d rather have a barn full of empty stalls than a single Parelli nutjob.[/QUOTE]

You have chosen wisely, grasshopper.

And Snowflake: That is THE SINGLE BEST description/summary of those fruitloops I’ve ever read. :yes:

[Alagirl]

I was reminded of this thread though:
http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?243250-Susie-has-a-visit-from-a-Kool-Aid-drinker-hilarity-ensues
And hilarity ensued…

anybody have a clue as to what happened to Woodland?

[lorilu]

I agree re: letting the police know/filing a report. BE SURE you ahve No Trespassing signs posted. If it continues ONE more time, get a no-trespassing order… or whatever it is called.

[Trakehner]

You shouldn’t have helped her load…bag of microwave popcorn, adult beverage and comfy seat…maybe even a video camera to remember the fun. When your enemy is defeating themselves, let them.

[Christa_P]

I have a 12H POA/Pulling pony cross that we bred. It would have been HILARIOUS to watch a pepperoni person try to train her :). Even at 22 she requires a knowledgeable horse person to keep her toeing the line - she would walk all over a person trying the NH stuff. FWIW, she is a competitive driving pony for me, but getting her trained required some firm measures.

[californianinkansas]

[QUOTE=Christa P;7746604]
I have a 12H POA/Pulling pony cross that we bred. It would have been HILARIOUS to watch a pepperoni person try to train her :). Even at 22 she requires a knowledgeable horse person to keep her toeing the line - she would walk all over a person trying the NH stuff. FWIW, she is a competitive driving pony for me, but getting her trained required some firm measures.[/QUOTE]

She sounds like an awesome little mare! Pics please?