CREST Toothpaste for Sarcoids?

[MistyBlue]

DW, also want to get a Thomas dressing down of my own someday. Not sure what that says about us though, LOL!

I’ll give it a try: Thomas, you’re a cantankerous mean doody head!

My husband is also a cancer survivor. Prostate, a common treatable cancer if caught early. And thankfully he was caught early because he had a very fast growing type with a very high PSA level. It was ready to spread and could have killed him.

But due to modern drugs and radiation seeds, he’s 100% now.

Many cancers now are not death sentences.

If there was a “cure” for it in herbs, it would have been found back when herbs were all that was available. Because cancer was recognized back in BC times.

And just because many herbs were tested and came up lacking does not mean it’s a medical conspiracy.

Although some herbs do well in conjuction with modern allopathic cancer treatments to help alleviate some reactions. Marijuana is one. :yes:

(not sure if that Thomas insult worked…I kind of like those qualities in a person)

[Bluey]

I think that some of those posting the wonders of alternative treatments, herbs and all that are showing how little they understand what we know of the world around us and because of that we don’t seem to be able to explain where their theories don’t make sense with what is known today.

One problem I see is that those posters are not only telling how good their way out ideas are, but keep bashing conventional management and medicine as they are saying their ways are better.:no:
I see why they may become rather defensive when some point out the incongruencies in their position.
No one likes to be told they don’t know what they are talking about and exactly why.

Now, I think I will go try some alchemy.
We need to find a way to make gold out of plain dirt, hay is so expensive any more at $8 a 70 lb bale of alfalfa.:eek:

[tikihorse2]

[QUOTE=Bluey;4953512]

Now, I think I will go try some alchemy.
We need to find a way to make gold out of plain dirt, hay is so expensive any more at $8 a 70 lb bale of alfalfa.:eek:[/QUOTE]

(Been following this discussion with great interest.)

Bluey, I suggest rather than gold out of plain dirt, the old horseperson’s dream: the hay goes in one end and comes out the other as cash! Wouldn’t that be LOVELY!? I know it’d make my life a lot better! :lol:

Kim

[Bluey]

[QUOTE=tikihorse2;4953615]
(Been following this discussion with great interest.)

Bluey, I suggest rather than gold out of plain dirt, the old horseperson’s dream: the hay goes in one end and comes out the other as cash! Wouldn’t that be LOVELY!? I know it’d make my life a lot better! :lol:

Kim[/QUOTE]

Can you bottle rainbows?
Lets go in business, I know a breed…

[RAyers]

[QUOTE=Bluey;4953512]

Now, I think I will go try some alchemy.
We need to find a way to make gold out of plain dirt, hay is so expensive any more at $8 a 70 lb bale of alfalfa.:eek:[/QUOTE]

Easy, fusion. Dirt is mostly silicon so we simply need to add more neutrons, protons and electrons to it. DUH! A little glue and a happy working song will do it.

[hitchinmygetalong]

[QUOTE=RAyers;4953700]
Easy, fusion. Dirt is mostly silicon so we simply need to add more neutrons, protons and electrons to it. DUH! A little glue and a happy working song will do it.[/QUOTE]

Like THIS ONE?

[deltawave]

Bluey, I suggest rather than gold out of plain dirt, the old horseperson’s dream: the hay goes in one end and comes out the other as cash! Wouldn’t that be LOVELY!? I know it’d make my life a lot better!

Oh! Oh! I have the answer to this! Check it out:

My hay is $150 per ton.

Back in yuppie-ville where we used to live, the “garden market” sold “naturally composted horse manure” for . . . wait for it . . .

$150 per ton.

Now if only I could figure out how to get my crap from here to there (about 180 miles). “Here” there’s too much horse manure in farm country. “There” there are too many yuppies with garden envy and discretionary income.

[goeslikestink]

[QUOTE=tikihorse2;4953615]
(Been following this discussion with great interest.)

Bluey, I suggest rather than gold out of plain dirt, the old horseperson’s dream: the hay goes in one end and comes out the other as cash! Wouldn’t that be LOVELY!? I know it’d make my life a lot better! :lol:

Kim[/QUOTE]

well they do say where theres muck theres money

so the good old horse pooh is cash if you use it right and sell it by the bagful

ooooooooh maybe sell it to caballus for her herbs
as eco freindly fetilizer

[Bluey]

[QUOTE=goeslikestink;4953757]
well they do say where theres muck theres money

so the good old horse pooh is cash if you use it right and sell it by the bagful

ooooooooh maybe sell it to caballus for her herbs
as eco freindly fetilizer[/QUOTE]

I would guess the OP already uses the manure she produces, as that is part of the holistic approach she seems to be following.

I have to say that I myself used to raise some great and abundant gardens on sandy soil and horse manure.:yes:

[chaltagor]

[QUOTE=Bluey;4953838]
I would guess the OP already uses the manure she produces, as that is part of the holistic approach she seems to be following.[/QUOTE]

Well, if water has a memory, there’s got to be a lot of poo in it. But wouldn’t it also have the memory of the chemicals used to treat it? Hmmm, what a conundrum.

[deltawave]

Well, if water has a memory, there’s got to be a lot of poo in it

Hey, our brains are 70% water, aren’t they? :lol: :lol:

[caballus]

[QUOTE=Bluey;4953838]
I would guess the OP already uses the manure she produces, as that is part of the holistic approach she seems to be following.
I have to say that I myself used to raise some great and abundant gardens on sandy soil and horse manure.:yes:[/QUOTE]
Yep – none is wasted. We have the most gorgeous, deep, deep, black rich soil that I’ve ever seen. It’s ready to plant early, early spring and we make ‘manure tea’ for fertilizer for the potted plants, as well. It’s good stuff … BUT, full of nitrogen so for some plants needs some added potash and lime. We use woodstove for heat so the ashes from the stove are used in the garden as well. Hey, its free – it saves us having to pay to have someone haul it off and its tremendous fertilizer. Heck … why pay for “Composted Manure” from the gardening store (as so many do) when we’ve got an abundance of it here? Our land is mostly rocks where we have the ‘bare paddock’ (great for hoof conditioning!) and where we have the gardens so we build “up” with the composted manure.

And just as another train of thought about manure? If one keeps a separate manure pile away from the barn/paddocks/etc. then it can be used as a ‘burying’ pile; the heat from the decomposition of the manure will break down a horse’s or cow’s body in about 6 months. No!! We DON’T have one of those, thank you.

[MassageLady]

Since you seem so against snark, I must take you seriously and assume you are AGAIN PRACTICING MEDICINE WITHOUT A LICENCE and report your post, which is a shame, since this is such an entertaining thread and it will likely get cleaned up shortly.

Sorry but since I didn’t mention names, it wasn’t prescribing-it was a suggestion to the masses, as in if you feel pain, an aspirin would help. And since this is not a prescription-it’s not prescribing.

Say what?
Cancer cures are thru the roof today. Guess you had not noticed?

Then why are they still trying to find the cure? this is funny…but not for my mom who died of cancer. Sure wish I’d have known of your CURE then! And if there was one…wouldn’t it be all over the news?

Yeh right and you’re a thoroughly nice person apart from your little rant!

Yes Thomas I am…unlike you who continually comes onto the alternative threads just to bash people who don’t believe the way you do.

Well I think you’re a prat and pretty ill informed to boot.

Will that do?

I could care less what you think of me-since your opinion really doesn’t matter.

[AnotherRound]

Interesting. I haven’t read the whole thread, but the first page, wow.

I think this is a lesson in how you get your facts wrong when you don’t do your research.

For example, this article talks about an old forumlation of Viadent, which contained the Sanguinarine, not Crest. Viadent was made by Colgate.

According to this article, in the 1990’s they stopped making Toothpaste with Sanguinarine, because it was causing pre-cancerous mouth lesions.

So, to correct the OP, Sanguinaraine does not cure cancerous growths, it causes them, and Crest didn’t have that forumation, Vidadent, made by Colgate, did.

but they don’t put Sanguinarine in Viadent toothpaste any more. I can’t find where they put it in any toothpaste any more. Because of the risk to health and all that.:lol:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=923659

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/badininsomor.html

But I really haven’t researched. Just thought this was interesting.

[caballus]

[QUOTE=AnotherRound;4954679]

So, to correct the OP, Sanguinaraine does not cure cancerous growths, it causes them, … [/QUOTE]
OK … so then maybe someone can explain to me why veterinarians are so hep to prescribe “Xxterra” for sarcoids?

[Thomas_1]

[QUOTE=MassageLady;4954652]

Then why are they still trying to find the cure? this is funny…but not for my mom who died of cancer. Sure wish I’d have known of your CURE then! And if there was one…wouldn’t it be all over the news? [/QUOTE] Get your head from up your backside and read about those who have been successfully treated.

NOTE: That NO treatment claims to be or is a cure all. Oh of course unless it’s some homeopathist that’s making the claim then of course it’s a wonder cure that does no harm at all!

Yes Thomas I am…unlike you who continually comes onto the alternative threads just to bash people who don’t believe the way you do.
Well I disagree. On both counts.

I came here when I saw the title and being well aware of the risks and consequences of messing about with sarcoids with silly home cures decided to ensure that there was a counter argument and challenge.

I could care less what you think of me-since your opinion really doesn’t matter.
Odd it seems to be bothering you so much you have to keep making comment on it then.

[Thomas_1]

[QUOTE=caballus;4954690]
OK … so then maybe someone can explain to me why veterinarians are so hep to prescribe “Xxterra” for sarcoids?[/QUOTE]

Because it can be effective for treatment of some warts.

But in asking the wrong question again you merely evidence that you clearly misunderstood what AnotherRound posted!

[kdow]

@MassageLady;4954652

Then why are they still trying to find the cure? this is funny…but not for my mom who died of cancer. Sure wish I’d have known of your CURE then! And if there was one…wouldn’t it be all over the news?

I am very sorry about the loss of your mother, but MY mother was an oncology research nurse for many years and still keeps up to date on the research as part of her current job (although she is no longer actively involved in any research projects) and the fact of the matter is that there are MANY different types of cancers and they cannot all be approached or treated in the same way.

So there will never be A cancer cure. Because there is not A cancer.

However, in the last 20 years or so, there has been significant improvement in the success rate of treating many of the more common types of cancers, due to a combination of better detection (the sooner a cancer is detected, generally the more successful treatment will be) and better treatment options. I’m sure that as technology and medications are developed, the number of cancers we can detect early and treat successfully will continue to grow.

[goeslikestink]

[QUOTE=kdow;4954805]
I am very sorry about the loss of your mother, but MY mother was an oncology research nurse for many years and still keeps up to date on the research as part of her current job (although she is no longer actively involved in any research projects) and the fact of the matter is that there are MANY different types of cancers and they cannot all be approached or treated in the same way.

So there will never be A cancer cure. Because there is not A cancer.

However, in the last 20 years or so, there has been significant improvement in the success rate of treating many of the more common types of cancers, due to a combination of better detection (the sooner a cancer is detected, generally the more successful treatment will be) and better treatment options. I’m sure that as technology and medications are developed, the number of cancers we can detect early and treat successfully will continue to grow.[/QUOTE]

echo, i have also lost family members to the decease and horses and pets
4 of my horses are in a research vetinary college as there cancers were rare
so any kind of help is important to help gain more knowledge, medications and better technology etc

i also think in eveyone life they know someone or somethign effected by this terible illness

the one thing we all have in common ------- is hope

[caballus]

[QUOTE=Thomas_1;4954773]
Because it can be effective for treatment of some warts.

But in asking the wrong question again you merely evidence that you clearly misunderstood what AnotherRound posted![/QUOTE]Questions are not “wrong” nor are they ‘stupid’ or anything but questions. I did NOT misunderstand what AnotherRound wrote and I understand the damage that can be done to HEALTHY tissue with the use of Bloodroot.

In THIS country, Thomas, some veterinarians DO suggest the use of Xxterra for sarcoids. Maybe not in the UK but here, yes. In fact, my own vet mentioned it as a possible treatment but I was nervous about the damage that could be caused to the surrounding tissue so opted to search out other means of treating it. And it was my VET who said she had heard of Crest toothpaste and then looking online, even here in COTH, I saw many references to the results of people using it on sarcoids. So I decided to go ahead with it - that and the Thuja as the combination remedy which has proven effective. Now, if you have a problem with what I’ve done with my horse then I guess you’ll just have to live with that. shrugs shoulders