Dehydration/minor colic JINGLES needed

[vxf111]

Moonriver, the point I am trying to make is that there are different types of service dogs (there’s no need for a seizure sensing dog to be tall enough to turn on a light switch, as that’s not the service being provided) and that you can have an ADA approved service dog without getting a dog from an official organization. I assume, I do not know, but I assume that is what Chanter has.

But anyway, it really doesn’t matter right? Regardless of what type of dog it is of whether it’s a service dog or not, I firmly believe that Chanter is in a bad psychological place and needs some help. Not the kind of help ChantersHelper can give, but help nonetheless. I can’t even imagine having a TBI. I really can’t. I can’t imagine coping without some help. Professional help. I really hope Chanter can get that help.

[moonriverfarm]

Me, too, and you are right, it doesn’t matter BUT I do question how loosely she is using the term “service dog” to her own benefit. It just adds to the myriad of questionable things Chanter claimed that got CH into this mess.

[vxf111]

I see the point you’re making. I for one, having a little (not a lot) of history with Chanter do think the dogs are ADA certified. But it doesn’t matter.

Do we know where exactly in Texas (big state) Chanter and ChantersHelper are? Maybe we can dig up some good local resources for Chanter that will help them both.

[moonriverfarm]

CH, please tell us how we can help - we are all willing to jump in and make this easier for you!

[chantershelper]

We’re in far north Texas about 70 miles from Dallas.

I spoke with the county sheriff and the constable yesterday, hoping that I could get someone to do what they called a “civil standby”…basically come out and be here as an impartial third party so I could try to talk to her and work out some logistics for while she remains as well as see what she wants to do. They were absolutely no help and basically said “you got yourself into this mess.” I would prefer not to start legal proceedings if we can help it, but do have to protect ourselves as best we can at this point.

I am hoping to make better progress today. I know there are people who are willing to help trying to contact her and I am trying to do a crash course on “the system” to see what agencies might help.

[Black_Market_Radio]

And what happened to the vet tech who was lambasted for her grammatical skills, for merely stating she thought she knew the barn in question, and was skeptical of any misgivings going on there?

The fact is, there have been MANY red flags along the way, and some are still being defended. I wonder how much checking really went on besides just spending hours on the phone with the person in question. I spent hours on the phone with, and even had children with a sociopath. I saw red flags along the way, and explained them away. I almost always believed HIM when people would tell me otherwise. He would tell me his sob story and I would fall for it. One day I didn’t fall for it anymore and he blew up like Mt St Helens on me.

I learned my lesson. See a red flag? Check it out in as many ways as you can, and not just from the source of the red flag itself.

[moonriverfarm]

Oh, Lord, CH…could you convince the sheriff she is unwilling to evict and is disruptive? If not, social services might be your next avenue. Surely they can intervene between you and a mentally unstable person especially IF that person is already in “the system” and gets a check.
I guess “Chanter, you gotta pack up and leave” is not an option anymore.

[blackhat]

Advice from the peanut gallery

Like there’s not been plenty of advice, but oh, well.

Chantershelper -

1. If you are seriously considering there may be need for legal action, stay off the boards about the event(s) until resolved. There’s nothing here but sympathy and random opinion, and nothing you say in a public forum will help in a court situation.

2. Talk to your local healthcare provider, determine who needs to see Chanter if you feel like helping.

3. Get her off your property. Whether the situation is good or bad, get her off.

Chanter -
You only get so many chances.

OK, I’ll shut up now and wander away.

[MistyBlue]

C-Helper…sent you a PM. :winkgrin: Has some helpful info.
Just an idea, protect your computer and sign-on and sign off accounts…and also do not have your passwords written anywhere. Keep your private info safe.

[vxf111]

Legal Services of North Texas
1515 Main St
Dallas, TX 75201
214.748.1234

[chantershelper]

“Pack up and leave” has not ever really been an option. She has no where to go and no money to get there. This is why I wish I knew who she was talking to and what she’s thinking. I feel certain there some people on the board she’s had contact with. I would like to try to help her get to where she thinks she’ll be happy. I cannot allow her to stay here…too many things have happened/been said and done and it would just not be prudent. We need an exit strategy and plan!

I am working on it. And I appreciate all the support and hope that you all continue to wish us BOTH well.

[MistyBlue]

I hope if anyone is talking to Chanter that they do contact C-Helper and let her know what’s going on.
Everyone was so willing to get her there…whoever she’s talking to now seems to have some sort of responsibility to at least help keep lines of communication open.

And just to be prudent…next time please do a quick search on the actual name of the person. Maybe a lot of this could have been avoided.

[moonriverfarm]

CH, she’s not actually living in your house, is she?
Please tell me she is under a different roof.

[rainechyldes]

I realize it’s an hard issue. However I think perhaps there needs to be a hardline set here somewhere along the way.

From what I can gather, Chanter did indeed choose of her own volition to move from where she was, to where she is. No one dragged her there kicking and screaming, therefore, her own money was spent on her -own- decision. Regardless of whether or not we all think she is competent to be making her own decisions, she thinks she is. If a person decides they are capable of making their own way, then as far as I’m concerned, they need to do so. Personally, given the choices, I would roll up the nice approach carpet and lay it out in a clear cut fashion.

IE- write it up as a document, copy for her, copy for you. Stating an eviction notice of such and such a period. Get her to sign it. Don’t fall for the her walking by and ignoring you stuff- that is completely childish, and more manipulation on her part. Whether or not she has some type of injury at this point, I think is moot. If the feeling is, the injury is going to continue to make everyone tiptoe around her, holding your breath, then your only other option is to have her held for a psych review.

I have no idea as a non-family member if that’s even possible. At the moment, I would think you are her landlord/employer. If she refuses to work, then she’s fired. If she refuses to pay bills, she’s evicted. The fact that she has no money, is not anyone’s fault but hers. She made the choices.

And that may make me sound like a horrific person, but I’m not. My point is, Chanter needs help yes. The kind that nobody on this board is qualified to give, at least over the internet. Evict her in a reasonable and legal fashion, the way all landlords do when a tenants behaviour is unacceptable.

[Coreene]

Um, helLO, if it was SO important to have kept so much of the stuff private in the beginning, CH et al, then how come we are getting details in chapter and verse now? CH, it was nice that you helped but posting details of what is currently going on takes you off that high road and brings it right down to the same level as Chanter’s bitching.

[moonriverfarm]

We are NOT getting details in chapter and verse Coreene - show me why you say that - and as far as CH, she is stating FACTS, not slinging insults or details, because we are asking how we can help. Lay off her, unless you want to invite Chanter to your farm to live.:mad:

[Perfect_Pony]

Can’t someone just send a big scarey dude over to Chantershelper’s house, this time to talk to Chanter??

[Roisin]

[QUOTE=Coreene;2169899]
Um, helLO, if it was SO important to have kept so much of the stuff private in the beginning, CH et al, then how come we are getting details in chapter and verse now? CH, it was nice that you helped but posting details of what is currently going on takes you off that high road and brings it right down to the same level as Chanter’s bitching.[/QUOTE]

Bad form, Coreene, bad form.

CH is in a bad way and IMHO handling this with a lot of tact and discretion. She needs BB people who might be in touch with chanter to help…and it sounds like the situation might be quite serious. CH has not given any gratuitous details.

Hang in there CH.

[moonriverfarm]

Are any COTHers near CH? Who would drive over and serve as mediator?
If I weren’t across the country I would already be there.

[Coreene]

None of what is going on at CH’s place is anyone’s business but CH’s and Chanter’s. If she feels compelled to share it, let her to do it in a PT.