[QUOTE=Coreene;2169963]
None of what is going on at CH’s place is anyone’s business but CH’s and Chanter’s. If she feels compelled to share it, let her to do it in a PT.[/QUOTE]
A PT to whom exactly???
My interpretation is that she is trying to seek out people on the BB (unidentified to her at the present) who may be in contact with chanter and who might be able to help mediate the situation.
Coreene…please…Chanter came here and involved everyone in her drama and asked for help - Chantershelper gave it to her - THRU THIS BB. Now there are problems which came from her goodwill, which she was willing to give because of this BB. So now that there are problems and she needs help - and again, Chanter is the one who started this thread - why is it wrong to tell us what has happened and ask for help??? Are you a presonal friend of chanter? If so PLEASE talk to her and relay to CH what she can do to get this behind her. You are way off base in your blame game.
Oh please, y’all have fun with this trainwreck. Buh bye. CH, sorry it bit you in the ass and hope you get it sorted out soon, but my recommendation would be to stop posting the details. There’s nothing to gain from it. The internet is not the place for either advice or airing the laundry.
[QUOTE=Coreene;2170007]
The internet is not the place for either advice or airing the laundry.[/QUOTE]
It’s going to be pretty boring on the BBs once these new rules take effect!!! 
Hmmmm, people came out of the woodwork on the board with helpful advice for Chanter. So I guess it worked for her. And it has helped MANY others to share on this board. Sorry you aren’t one of them as you seem pretty sour to the idea. So why do you post, if not to get or share information:confused:?
CH, hang in there. We are trying to help figure some things out for you.
[QUOTE=Coreene;2169963]
None of what is going on at CH’s place is anyone’s business but CH’s and Chanter’s. If she feels compelled to share it, let her to do it in a PT.[/QUOTE]
Ditto.
This is just a personal dispute between two board members, being fought out in public on COTH. I admit, I didn’t know this was even allowed.
Coreene, while I totally respect your opinion and somewhat agree with you, I personally love that this is all coming out. Not because I think it’s fun, but that I think this trainwrech could open some people’s eyes and serve as a reminder to everyone on this BB that it is VERY IMPORTANT to ask as many questions as possible from the get go, and to be very careful about who you trust on the internet. People in the beginning voiced perfectly acceptable concerns and asked valid questions only to be shot down as rude or careless. THAT is unacceptable. The fact is, most people do not know who people are on this BB and the OP in question had a history of crying out for help and claiming victim.
This should all serve as a terrible reminder to everyone.
The only reason Helper is posting publicly is to ask for assistance from the person or persons that Chanter may be communicating with. Chanter has closed all contact with most of the people who were directly involved in this matter and Helper is at a loss at the moment. There are many further details that WILL NOT be explained on a public BB. The situation is very tense for all involved and legal help will be a long time coming. Helper only wishes to know what Chanter wishes to do as far as other living accomodations are concerned and is more than willing to help, along with other volunteers, to make this happen. Chanter, at this time though, will not communicate with anyone known to those of us who are trying to organize an escape plan. Helper is, for many reasons, afraid to approach her in public without an independent third party present and is having trouble finding someone that Chanter will trust. Thus, the need for the person Chanter is speaking with to come forward. NOT to choose sides, just to relay messages in a neutral tone. Helper is truly concerned for Chanter’s well being and wishes to end this situation in a matter that will benefit them both in a time frame that will allow them both to move on.
Not to put words in Coreene’s mouth, but it’s possible that she is concerned for CH should she end up getting sued. I’m not saying that’s likely, but having all this information out there might not necessarily be in her best interest. Just a thought.
And a horse internet board became the place for advice on how to deal with someone who you don’t want at your house how?
Now I’m pissed.
You know, if I were Chanter, reading this thread, I’d be sitting in a corner somewhere incommunicado too. And possibly wishing that modern medical science hadn’t saved my life and left me with literally “half a brain”.
Chanter now knows that she has uprooted herself, drained her finances (and somehow I doubt she has a credit card that’ll carry a new move) all to find out through this BB that she is no longer welcome and needs to find a new home, AGAIN. And gee, just how have you some of you folks felt when you found out through idle gossip that some major event impacting you personally was going down? Or had something you were afraid of confirmed? Unable to cope, perhaps? Hurt? Lashing out at those who meant well?
Liar, whiner, scam artist, parasite, WHATEVER, howsabout we stop this train NOW.
I cannot allow her to stay here…too many things have happened/been said and done and it would just not be prudent.
Is there no way to step back from this posture? If she does indeed have a “brain injury”, then her reactions/responses/behavior/noncommunitiveness could be a result of this injury, coupled with the stress of the last few weeks of moving cross-country. Is there no way to perhaps start over, having a clearing of the air, an understanding of certain parameters of living on your property? All the while keeping in mind her processes and perspective could be skewed from her injury.
I feel terrible for you CH, but I also feel for Chanter. I couldn’t imagine the loneliness and isolation she must feel having really no one in the world (family) that cares for and loves her. What an awful situation, for both of you.:no:
[QUOTE=Coreene;2170046]
And a horse internet board became the place for advice on how to deal with someone who you don’t want at your house how?[/QUOTE]
Well, it sounds like the someone is at the new place because she wanted a place to be with her horses, and the new place is a horse farm.
I hear you…I’m really not trying to pick on you. I do feel you are being slightly unfair to CH. And, I stick to my opinion that CH has not posted gratuitous details. And, that she has as much right as anyone to post here for help on any horse-related topic.
Re, please go back and read Chanters’ post. SHE is the one who said she can not stay. She is aware that she is no longer able to stay there. It is not something that she is finding out here.
As for going back and restarting, after the events that have transpired, it is no longer an option in my opinion(and I am sure Chanter’s, Helper’s and her husband’s) for this situation to work out for any of them. Some of us more closely involved in the original move were sent a PM that contained many dangerous and hurtful rantings that left us in shock. While not choosing sides, because each person perceives things differently and a TBI can skew perceptions even more, I was personally more than a little disappointed by some of the personal attacks.
And you know this for a fact?
NONE of this should have ever been on this board, anywhere. NONE OF IT.
In my opinion, and it is only MY OPINION, and I can only base my opinion on what I have read here, Chanter needs more than the help of “internet friends” - she needs social services. Why is she not getting help from them?
Not that I expect an answer to that question, as it is, like just about everything else relating to this mess, none of my business.
I really feel for Chantershelper. :no:
We rented our new house back to the previous owner for one month. Our old house had not sold yet and she was having problems with the closing/ moving details on her new house. Since we were not going to be homeless, we graciously allowed her to rent. Well, we knew she was “wacky” but we did not know that she was a mentally unstable alcoholic. She refused to leave our house and we had to hire a lawyer and contact the authorities to force an eviction. Unfortunately, the law is on the side of the “renter”. You have to file paperwork, wait 30 days, give a second warning, wait 30 days… you get the picture. It was the biggest nightmare of my life. All because we were trying to help a person out.
What thanks did we get? Well, she finally left on her own and left the water running (to the icemaker) once the fridge was disconnected. She flooded the kitchen, dining room and everything underneath it in the basement. Ruined the hardwood floors. She did it on purpose. And she called me laughing to say that she had moved out two days earlier and to “look out for the puddle”. :mad:
Please, Chantershelper- hire a lawyer and find out what your rights are. Kicking a person out is not as easy as it sounds. And they can do some much damage before they leave. If you don’t have a solid rental agreement with a security deposit, etc then you will not have a leg to stand on if anything goes wrong.
Sorry, but I will never, ever be generous like that again.
[QUOTE=ReSomething;2170047]
You know, if I were Chanter, reading this thread, I’d be sitting in a corner somewhere incommunicado too. And possibly wishing that modern medical science hadn’t saved my life and left me with literally “half a brain”.
Chanter now knows that she has uprooted herself, drained her finances (and somehow I doubt she has a credit card that’ll carry a new move) all to find out through this BB that she is no longer welcome and needs to find a new home, AGAIN. And gee, just how have you some of you folks felt when you found out through idle gossip that some major event impacting you personally was going down? Or had something you were afraid of confirmed? Unable to cope, perhaps? Hurt? Lashing out at those who meant well?
Liar, whiner, scam artist, parasite, WHATEVER, howsabout we stop this train NOW.[/QUOTE]
If you are in contact with chanter (something about your post makes me think so), maybe you could give chanter and chantershelper a hand.
I don’t think people here wish anything but good for chanter. There is understandable frustration with the appearance of having initiated herself the state of “unwelcome-ness” she now finds herself in.
For those of you so quick to jump on CH for her “inappropriate” BB form, consider the reason she posted in the first place. Chanter started this thread and in the first sentence or two BITCHED about the quality of the water on CH’s farm. An appallingly bad way to treat a kindhearted and unselfish stranger who has opened her home and farm to Chanter, I think.
I didn’t weigh in on the first thread because it seemed to take an ugly turn when people started raising red flags, and frankly, I didn’t want to get into a pissing match with people on a BB.
That said, I am always extremely skeptical of chronic “victims” because I have been burned by a few. In my experience, these people are often very highly skilled manipulators, and so adept at lying and deceit that they actually start to believe their own complicated and often far fetched stories.
I am very curious just how Chanter’s story was verified and checked out as those rallying around her insist it was.
Now CH finds herself in a situation I wouldn’t wish on anyone. I’m not sure what contract/agreement she may have entered into with Chanter, or if one even exists, but I do know evicting someone under normal circumstances can be very difficult, I cannot imagine how it will happen under these unique circumstances.
I do feel empathy Chanter but I have to wonder how much of her drama she has brought upon herself. Treating CH as rudely as she has done, and by this I mean the comments she made in her initial post, and not anything CH has said, is appalling and screams of an ungrateful, unappreciative person, head injured or not.
Sounds like it’s time for Chanter to step up and help herself. Only she can make the decision to sell her horses, which I think is the obvious place to start, and only she can admit she needs professional help. Unless of course she doesn’t need professional help at all and has just been playing everyone from the beginning.
CH, I am deeply sorry you are in this predicament.
I had not read any of these posts until yesterday and once I started reading, it was like watching one of those horror movies where you want to yell at the screen - “don’t go in there.” There was some sort of mob mentality that took over and all voice of reason was lost. The only person who has not changed through all of this is Chanter. She was and is very needy, but the needs are those that people on a bulletin board cannot meet. The panicked emailing and posting was no different from when there is a post that a horse is on the way to slaughter. Perhaps more than a place to live, Chanter may have needed to be in the center of that attention and support - propped up by strangers and saved. No big surprise that when she came to the end of what we thought was her struggle, it was not the end to her struggle or her torment. Now the people who met that need have turned on her and, in a similar mob mentality, are throwing that support to someone else. Now she is attacked for the same foibles and problems that were the rationale for her support just a few weeks ago. She is no different and no less deserving of sympathy. She didn’t graciously accept without complaint the help that was given, but how could anyone who was involved have expected that? If she were capable of doing what the board members expect of her, she would not have been in the situation of needing the help to start with. I agree with those who say that this does not belong on a BB. It didn’t the first time and it doesn’t now.
Just wondering…but certain things seem rather odd.
Such as not having any paper trail. Like no phone, no TV/cable, no personal internet, no leases, no utilities in your own name, etc.
Add in repeated short term temp housing that suddenly require fast emergency moves, usually coupled with similar (and sometimes almost identical) fantastic reasons for moving immediately…as if a certain story has worked well more than once…
It just seems like someone who might know the system well and is taking pains to make sure there isn’t any paper trail.
Just an observation of course. :yes:
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