Ok, today’s looser lead the Derby from the start to the finish. I’m curious how many other Derby winners have done this. Does anyone know?
- Spend A Buck, Winning Colors, Go For Gin and War Emblem were the most recent.
Looser lead? I’m not sure what you mean.
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loser led
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AS I think about it, I get quite disgusted. The stewards obviously felt strongly about it, and Mr Mott’s mouth was not helping,
BUT, They have punished the jockey, the trainer, and the owners, the horse knows he won and that’s that.
They should have simply fined the jockey his share of the purse, and suspended him for a fanciful amount of time.
I know I’ve had horse shy and leap four feet to the side, and it’s almost unpreventable. But the jock was the pilot. He, theoretically, was in command, not the hapless trainer and owners.
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Watching the Derby was really tough. The jockeys risk their lives to ride and I can see why they complained. Might Maximum Security need blinkers or eye cups? On the other hand, no body was going to catch him and he was obviously the winner.
This is the rule for what should happen in circumstances like this:
"A leading horse if clear is entitled to any part of the track. If a leading horse or any other horse in a race swerves or is ridden to either side so as to interfere with, intimidate, or impede any other horse or jockey, or to cause the same result, this action shall be deemed a foul.”
The rule exists for the safety of the jockeys and the horses. The stewards applied it correctly. The foul that Maximum Security committed led to his DQ. It’s not the steward’s fault that the horse did something that’s not allowed in racing.
There’s really nothing here to be disgusted about.
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At least 22… probably into the 30s by now since we have had quite a few recently.
So that does explain why Angel Cordero & Codex were allowed to keep their Preakness win, after Cordero deliberately was bearing-out into KY Derby winner Genuine Risk and whipping her in the face?
I never knew these rules were not in place in 1980.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0iFI7aLsQY
And.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqj7D0rIHsM
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So you think since a call was not made by different stewards at a different track 39 years ago, then the result of the Derby should stand? No matter what the infraction was, it should just be a free-for-all?
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Personally I saw no infraction in the 2019 'derby. But my eyes are failing… So. Whatever.
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Rather than bemoaning the fact that the rules weren’t enforced 39 years, better to celebrate that they are being enforced now.
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I’ll describe the infraction for you since you can’t see it:
Maximum Security crossed into War of Will’s path so abruptly that his hind leg was between War of Will’s two front legs and War of Will’s head was practically on his rump. And by some miracle, War of Will stayed on his feet… instead of what usually happens where the horse clips heels with the horse in front of him and goes down, triggering a mass casualty event. Which is why crossing into a horse’s path in that manner constitutes an automatic DQ in today’s rules in pretty much every racing jurisdiction.
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Maybe glasses? Not sure how you can miss War Of Will about falling on his face coming off the far turn and into the stretch.
I saw it in real time as the race was being run. I remember thinking that I was expecting to see an inquiry before the horses even crossed the finish line.
Did just read an article that faulted the stewards for not posting the inquiry rather than the objection on the tote board. Evidently the stewards were already reviewing the incident before the objections, they just didn’t tell the public they saw it and were reviewing it. I kinda agree with this also. Right call but should have posted the inquiry as soon as they decided the incident needed further review rather than waiting for the objections to be lodged.
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@Texarkana - excellent explanation. I saw everyone bear out to the middle of the track at one point and was not sure what had happened til I replayed a couple times and saw that it was Maximum Security that caused it. Went thru the video frame by frame where you can see both horses’ legs “tangled” and am amazed that this didn’t have a catastrophic outcome. IMHO, Maximum Security’s jockey did not have a lot of control over his horse. For most of the first part of the race, the horse is looking towards the middle of the track and appeared to be trying to engage horses on that side of him. Then he looked toward the infield, seemed to lose focus and then drifted in, thus causing domino effect on those horses to his right. Would Country House have passed him and won? Again, IMHO, not likely but the entire incident unacceptable.
I was very surprised no-one said anything about the first race on the TV “card” today, where the 1,3,4,5 horses all were really bumping and banging into each other hard.
Love the post parade and all the gorgeous pony horses. Especially love the two Appies that are built like brick houses. :yes:
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Ultimately it isn’t that Country House might have passed Maximum Security and won (his jock said County House wasn’t interfered with). It’s the racing rules that says that the horse causing the interference gets placed behind the worst placing horse interfered with (Long Range Toddy).
County House just happened to be in the right place at the right time to cross the wire second and then got moved up when Maximum Security was DQd.
I love that chunky monkey Appy lead pony. He also works at Keeneland and nothing seems to bother him 
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That sounds like Harley. Breyer just released a portrait model of him last year. He’s a cool horse.
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Thank you, Texarkana. Maybe after the cataract & lasik surgery I will be able to see it. I had no one around to explain it to me.
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Maybe glasses? Not sure how you can miss War Of Will about falling on his face coming off the far turn and into the stretch.
“WMW; Please see below. Thank you.”
…“Thank you, Texarkana. Maybe after the cataract & lasik surgery I will be able to see it. I had no one around to explain it to me.”
