DESPERATE TO MOVE! They're here! pg 26

[Chester_s_Mom]

[QUOTE=MoonBallad;2097852]
Thank you so much for this post. I’m totally horrified by the nastiness some people have shown here to someone in a desperate situation. I spoke with Chanter on the phone for more than 3 hours last night and I have NO doubt all she says is true and she needs help. For some of the people here to assume that she’s lying because they don’t understand her situation and to come on here and say some of the things they’ve said is sad and unkind at the very least. Just because you have never been in a situation like she is and you can’t understand or comprehend it doesn’t mean it isn’t actualy happening to someone else.
I’m very late and can’t write more now but I’ll try to when I get back[/QUOTE]

Thanks for another update; and for spending time “with” her. Can you “scan” the postings here for her so she doesn’t have to ride the emotional roller coaster of seeing folks debate her worthiness? It seems best at this point if someone do that for her.

[TKR]

Maybe it would be best to ask Chanter to take a deep breath and tell us what she wants to do and what would work for her. I am sure all the offers that have been made are made with the hope it will work for her. But has anyone just asked her to outline how she wants to handle this with her animals and herself and maybe someone can offer something similar. Just a thought. I agree that when anyone feels desperate and is limited in their resources and afraid, it is hard to think clearly. If someone is in the area and could meet her for a cup of coffee and speak with her one on one, maybe a solution could be worked out. I hope so.
PennyG

[Lady_Delancy]

So Ive got a question, did Animal control ever show up? Is there any kind of Police or Incident report?

[YankeeLawyer]

Status on Offers for Chanter

Given that it is hard to weed out the posts for offers, I tried my best to piece together the various offers that have been made so far and post them here in one place. May I suggest that if someone has another offer, that they quote this post and then add their offer at the bottom (which will make old offers show up in a blue box with the new offer below in white)? That way there will be a comprehensive list of outstanding offers.

First, Chanter’s number is 352-591-0668 if you can do anything to help her. She says she only has dial up, so the line will be busy if she is on the internet, and she does not have an answering machine, i.e., keep trying.

The following are offers that have been made; note that about half way down are classifieds that people have gathered from various sources (labeled “Ads”). Note too that some of these offers might not have been viable or otherwise might not still be available:

DailyNhtly:

Chanter,E-mail me directly (k.lauralynn@gmail.com) if you’re still in need. I may have a way for you to get out of that situation, as well as housing your horses (not 100% sure about the dog right now…). Free rent with a job to help you save up some cash. As for right now, I understand your fear, but I would call the police and sit down with a detective, explaining the situation fully. I don’t know what kind of deal you can make, (as I assume you’re fearing retaliation if the police and the ASCPA just randomly showed up to check on this guy), but you at least need to get something submitted formally.E-mail me if you need to and best of luck…

Laura http://got.to/keepfaith

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StefffiC
North Carolina –

Chanter,

The coop barn next door has two open stalls. I can do temporary care for you, and feed the horses my feed/hay for a few days until you can get up here. Let me know if you need it.

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StefffiC

Chanter, the offer I made for your horses I told you that the horses could stay as long as you wanted. It’s a coop barn, but I’d provide the food, hay, and labor for the first few weeks until you got on your feet. After that then you’d need to be here and care for them. It’s a 3/4 of a mile walk to my neighbors, and I’ve got a f/t job, 5 horses, all of which are undersaddle, 2 are clients that I have to ride. It’s a major stretch for me to do anything like that.

I wonder why the service dogs aren’t neutered, too. And, a Shit-zu (? spelling) service dog? I thought most service dogs were big dogs, but I could be thinking of something else.

Steph

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Nootka (note – apparently Nootka might not be able to offer a place after all because she rents)

I have 2bedrooms and room temp for 2 horses (1 horse could stay long) plus room for dog/s in Dunnellon which is 20min south of Ocala.

Maybe we can work something out?

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2socksmom:

Chanter,
I am in NC but I have a six stall barn with only 2 horses. I know its a long way from Ocala but I would be willing to take the 2 horses and 2 dogs for a while. PM me if interested. There is work nearby at another farm and living arrangements.

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onthebit12000
Location: Illinois
Posts: 823

Chanter,

Im a long way from FL, but have an extra room at the 'inn" and could also house your two horses. The dogs could be a problem. I have 2 dog aggressive Cane Corso’s who live in the house, so any additional dogs would have to take residence in our extra garage.

I know its a long way to go to IL, but if you get to where you just need to get up and go…you are welcome here.

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onthebit12000:

Chanter,

I just sent you a PM. Please call me at 815-761-4937. I have contacts in Ocala that might be able to help you.

Gail

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vxf111:

I just found this thread, and I am worried for you.

I am all the way in PA, and it’s a very small consolation, but I can take the small dog for as long as you need to get back on your feet, provided small dog doesn’t mind living with cats. I don’t think my apartment manager would ever allow me to have a larger dog and I live in an apartment in the city- so I cannot help with the horses.

It’s a very very small offer but I am putting it out anyway.

I hope everything is all right. I would take the dogs with you when you go out. It would be better if you could take the horses too but they’re so big and hard to find a place to go with. The fewer beings in this crazy guy’s line of fire- the better.

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gillenwaterfarm
Location: Mobile, AL USA

Chanter, if you are seeing this, I’d like to draw your attention to a post by Jessie on the Sport Horse breeding forum announcing an empty trailer headed from Ocala to VA Jan 2. I know someone from NC announced they could take you, and had a job nearby…You have to drive through NC to get to VA from Ocala.

http://www.chronicleforums.com/Forum...ad.php?t=77473

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gray17htb

Chanter, I can move your horses for free if they stay in the west central FL area. PM me if you need me. I’m about 1 and 1/2 hours south of Ocala.

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ADS

lark_b:

From an e-mail I got:

Endurance.Net just posted an ad for someone looking for live-in help on a
horse farm in Vermont. You may want to refer the poster to Endurance.Net -

Caretaker/exercise rider needed in NE Vermont. Duties would vary widely from
exercising 4 well broke horses, to working with and training one young
horse, and one young mule. If applicable, we also need someone to do farm
maintenance and caretaking. We put up all of our hay, have several acres of
lawn to mow, bushhogging, trail maintenance, fencing, and housesitting when we are out of town. Small, but nice cottage provided. Non smokers only, please. Salary negotiable, depending on workload. crodd22@hotmail.com

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horsesourcetexas:

New TB Horse Farm FT- 6 days. Working with mares & foals. Experience a MUST. $400 - $500/wk upon exp. Fax resume 352-347-6329 or call 352-347-6210

Horse Groom- Champion Reining and Cowhorse Ranch looking for qualified groom for show horses and turn outs. Duties include stall cleaning, animal husbandry, and grooming. Riding skills a plus. Call 4 Arrows Ranch at 352-438-0160

OUT IN THE STABLE HORSEY HOOFS, Here comes Santa down the roof. At Equistaff we need grooms. Come by and see us really soon. 622-2040

These were in the Ocala paper. I don’t know if housing is available on the first two. Try Equistaff and explain that you need immediate housing for you and the animals. They were a Godsend for me in the past for sure. Post if you got this, if not, I will try calling here in a bit.

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Equibrit:

PRIVATE FARM Seeking Self - Motivated Person to be in charge of Ten Quarter Horses, including Exercising and Trail Riding: also responsibility for equine related facilities and equipment. Use of Three Bedroom, 2 Bath house, Salary and Benefits included. (678) 314-5749 GA

ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT, All utilities included, in exchange for farm work or work and reduced rent. Horse experience necessary. N. Fulton / S. E . Cherokee County location. (404) 797-7564 GA

NEED EXPERIENCED Horse Person with references. Full time work at Equine Hospital and boarding / training facility. Salary & housing. (706) 342-4535 Madison, GA

HORSE FARM needs Two Experienced Grooms. Full time and Travel. Salary and Housing (770) 740-8432 Rancho de Caballos necesita dos ensilladores con experiencia tiempo copleto y puedan viajar, se prove casa y salario. Llamar (770) 740-8432 GA

[goeslikestink]

there is not one time when i ahvent not beleive canter–

shes in trouble and of course she wants her pets with her and why not --i would do anything to keep mine --as those that are lets say – unbeleiving then think one day you could lose the lot and be just like her with nothing–

for what ever reason these horses and dogs have been her lifeline - her sanity-- her reason for not giving up disability or not shes not a giver inner – shes a fighter

and has express her fight loud and clear not just for herslef for her animals and not just for her own but for the ones left behind –

as for vet tech person-- matey what you see on the outside of a visit isnt always clear sometimes theres a mist as no one knows what happens behind closed doors - if this man is is well known and pwoerful shes up against it
and if she said it out loud then matey let me tell you this hes gone as far as beatening her whats next-- will it be on those heads if she donet reply becuase she cant–

sernerio a true one – i had two men in fields not long ago i saw them called police and they said they would sent a patrol it never came but i called my daughter she did - ithought becuase she drove up the lane that they was gone so i walked up same lane as she reversed down it - to my surprize i heard rustling and out they popped from behind a bush in my field
my daughter hadnt reached me yet and it was dark so strongest aprt of me said what you doing they said looking for a pub i sad as if – would you mind getting out of my field — to which they did they were dressed in black and had balaclovers on and daughter had reached me by then her and bf got out of car to back me up and we followd the men of down the lane still police hadnt came but i rung them and they said so they were only tresspassing - isad nothing they can do i said surposing one of them had hit over the head the police said then we put you on top of que to be seen and patrol sent – wehn you call - i said how can i call if i was dead---- no arguement

her lashing out is fear – have you got that one yet – FEAR

CANTER GET IN TOUCH WITH gray17htb SHES OFFERED TO TRNASPORT YOU AND HORSES AND DOGS TO SAFTY SHES IN YOUR AREA I BELEIVE GET IN TOUCH ASAP

[ctjumpers]

THANK YOU GOESLIKESTINK!

can anyone possibly try to put themselves in her shoes and think how they might feel or what they would do in the same situation! I THINK YOU WOULD LASH OUT TOO! And then to have people start bashing you 'cause you tried to help out and give someone a happy holiday by joining the SS thread!

Even though i am not able to offer any help, we are still praying for you in Connecticut! Please keep us posted!

[vxf111]

My offer will not work, as I didn’t realize that the smaller dog was still an active service animal. So Chanter needs both of them. Nonetheless, if Chanter thinks of anything she does need-- all she has to do is ask.

[lilblackhorse]

“PLEASE, someone, anyone that can help get me out of here NOW, I will move wherever”

I guess this is why I thought that maybe some of the kind offers would have been accepted by now. Of course they are not going to be right down her street, but she asked to go whereever, and that’s where the offers have come from.

I am sorry she is in this bind, but maybe two horses and a disability are too much at this time. Life throws us curves sometimes and we have to make some hard decisions. Maybe the horses can go elsewhere for a period of time while the authorities locally help her with finding a place where she can stay with her dogs.

[Treasmare2]

Edited to remove my personal opinion.

[Medicine_Wheel_Ogilv]

Yankee Lawyer and Chester’s mom, good ideas. I’ve been scrolling to summarize the offers as well and emailed them to Chanter earlier today. It’s good to put them altogether again. Horsesourcetexas, well said.

As for Animal control, they were to show today (I believe).
Yes, reports have been made.
Yes, Chanter is calling and asking about jobs.
Yes, Chanter is working with Adult Advocacy to see what assistance can be found.

Not too long ago, I met a woman (breeder in the past) who I thought was on her death bed. She almost was at the time, and still is off and on. She has MS and many associated disabilities with it. Thank goodness she used to train service dogs and kept her last one. She didn’t know she would need her.
This woman had strong opinions (don’t all horsepeople), strong desires, and also a failing memory. I jumped in to help her and was initially like a cork in the ocean trying to follow her thoughts and provide assistance. I realized over the course of a few months that to help her, I needed to be a pillar (and find other professional help). She would not follow through with things that were within her physical capability. We had many flow sheets of “to-do’s”; I searched, resourced and provided many options. All she had to do was make a phone call or give me more information to follow up on, etc. I treated her almost like I would my mother. I even grocery shopped for her! But she had unspoken fears. She suffered from depression. She self-limited for reasons I couldn’t even guess (and many she told me about). She wouldn’t help herself. In fact, she would sabotage attempts we would make together for her health. I ended up placing her very special horse that she couldn’t care for, adopting the other that was almost unadoptable, and now I just give her moral support and whatever help I occasionally can.

MY POINT IS:

Chanter is nowhere near like this lady but could have some of the limitations. If there is lack of followthrough (and I’m not sure that that is lacking - we just aren’t hearing about it all), it could be for not being able to face so many issues at once under duress. And that is UNDERSTANDABLE. I think Physical Energy expressed it well. Patient support and continued offering of ideas and assistance is the best thing for this woman. She is already getting professional help (the Advocacy group and others). I can’t do that - many of us can’t - especially on a BB. But I would suggest (ask you) to have patience with her. I wish I could be more expressive as many of you are, but I get frustrated with negativity that goes nowhere and is meant to feed the others. Maxxtrot wasn’t negative - only cautious - some of you are downright mean. There are already many loving people on this board. If you are worried about being taken advantage of, then look up some information, call Chanter, followthrough yourself before you help. If you have nothing to offer, then as my mother would say “BE NICE”.

[jmjhp]

OK, I have a question, does the OP have any family to help her at all?

[King_s_Ransom]

Oh come on! Let’s not start throwing around psychobabble. I know someone who is diagnosed borderline personality and I guarantee that no one here is competent to even THINK about it – it’s VERY difficult to diagnose, so let’s just not go there!

It doesn’t look to me like we have really had any viable answers to Chanter’s dilemma through CoTH. That’s not surprising. I think it is unrealistic to seek the kind of help that Chanter is needing through a BB. I suspect that even posting here was just an act of desperation on her part, something to do when she couldn’t think of anything else.

Sounds to me like finding competent agency assistance is what she needs. Unfortunately, it is so difficult to find help when you really need it most. I am praying that she will stumble into a guardian angel who can help her think straight, make good choices, and find and access resources. I know from personal experience that it is very difficult to think straight in the middle of a crisis – and I do not have any disabilities at all. That is one reason soldiers go through boot camp before they hit the battle ground – it’s not just skills-training, it’s learning how to think straight in a crisis. Unfortunately, most of us have not been through boot camp.

I spent six weeks “on the run” when I left my abusive husband, and while I am not making a comparison between this and domestic violence, I am just saying that I really could not make good choices. Virtually all of my “friends” totally abandoned me, they did not want to even HEAR from me because they did not want to get “involved” in my mess … and I suspect they did not believe that I was really in danger … I guess they thought I was just hopping from state-to-state for the fun of it?

At any rate, please do not start throwing around psychological diagnoses. If someone had tried to analyze me while I was in the middle of my crisis, they might have said I was borderline personality, too – or schizophrenic. It’s like one minute you’ve got your wits about you and the next you’re a nut-case. If you’ve never been there, you just don’t know.

[Tiempo]

Amen KR.

[physical.energy]

PLEASE Stay Out OF IT…

If you cannot offer some kind of positive helpfull advice. It provides no help whatsoever to be a googling armchair psychologist! If you can offer positive encouraging solutions or advice then have at it… it is welcomed with open arms. If all you can do is criticize and be nasty find another target in your day or go ride your horse and come back in a better mood!

THis thread is about finding solutions to a problem for someone who is in trouble. If you are unable to offer any solutions then why waste your time typing. The attitude of “you made your bed” is of no help either. Things don’t add up because we only get parts of the story and so what. The parts we are getting are bad enough to know Chanter needs help out so she can help herself. I get no impression she is looking for handouts but a hand up and some sense of safety or security.

Please keep the positive ideas coming, and if you know anyone in the ocala area who needs someone to farmsit or work give them a call and see if it might be a situation that is feesable.
Thank you to the people keeping us updated.

[TKR]

Does anyone in the Ocala area have any contacts or connections with the agencies that have been contacted to just check and see if she is being helped? Maybe give Chanter some other agencies or contacts that could also offer help. Being distressed and limited on her means of communications, perhaps the best way to help is make some contacts for her or give her the telephone #'s and names.

Also, I know that during the holidays it might be very difficult to get a response because many of those who are in a position to help via these agencies are away or out of the office. I know we have tried to make some contacts for my father in law who is in his 90’s with many health problems and living alone and we mostly been told to “call after the holidays”.

If any one knows an official personally, this might be a good time to emphasize the dire emergency and need of this situation. Chanter may not be able to do this in her state of mind and she is too afraid to be bold even with someone who might help.

PennyG

[Treasmare2]

To the contrary. My post had more to do with my concern for the good hearted, kind people here who are all trying to help someone that appears to be in need. Giving people can get sucked dry in the process…my reference to goggle was so people could protect themselves in the helping process. It is wonderful that so many want to help but the rejection of ideas seems to be disappointing other BB members. Helpers can get burnt out…helping is good but burnout or getting hurt in the process is not good. I am sorry.

[maxxtrot]

ok, i have never said anything nasty to this woman, just wanting some more info.

wendy123- i am sorry that you think because i cannot spell that i am not a very hard working tech, that does her job very well. ask my boss, I CAN’T SPELL WORTH A S**T, again i am sorry. i asked chanter about this barn in the hope of being able to help her, the response i got just made me ask more questions. i too am very short on cash and cannot afford to take on two more horses. i also am not going to give this woman a refrence for a job with people here in the area, because i can’t seem to get a straight answer.
some of you thought maybe she did not tell me the farm name and the fm’s name as she was afraid i would tell him. i would never do that, i am not close with this manager, just do work at his farm, like i do with several hundred others in the area. i explained that i just wanted to know if it was the same farm, as maybe then i could get some help her way. i just cannot help in anyway but to send her help. have no extra room, no trailer, no barn apartment, cannot take any dogs(as we have three) and no more room for horses. i am turning down paying boarders as it is now. i am selling off my stock as i too need money. but i am doing something about that. it just semms if she is really in need than she would do whatever it takes to get her and the animals out of there.

so, if some of you feel the need to attack me, that’s fine, i can take it, but attacking me is not helping anybody. so i guess i will be done with it. i was really worried about coming back to this thread as i knew it would already be a trainwreak, and it is. i meant no harm to chanter’s feelings and again, i never said anything bad to or about her. all i wanted was more information and some answers to some questions that she had pm’ed me about.some stuff was just not adding up for me. so if any of you can help, please do. but i think it will take more than just the offer of a place to stay.

[hundredacres]

[QUOTE=arabhorse2;2097434]
I thought all service dogs for the handicapped have to be spayed or neutered? Why would Chanter have intact males in her possession, if that’s what they are? Seriously folks, I’m asking a legitimate question here.

And when did they authorize Shitzhus and Pit Bull crosses as service dogs? Those dogs are usually Goldens or Labradors.[/QUOTE]

I’m sorry…these are gigantic, whopping, mountain sized red flags.

I can’t read this thread anymore. I was so worried…now I’m just feeling, well,

duped.

Chanter…I wish you the best. I hope you get the help you need. I’ll keep you in my thoughts…

[rebecca_yount]

Chiming in here. I actually am a licensed psychologist in addition to being an experienced farm owner. This thread has been a very interesting read for me.

Probably the best assistance that those who desire to help Chanter could give would be be sure she gets in touch with professionals and agencies that could help her.

Talking to her for three hours on the telephone, using up valuable time and apparently money on a phone card, seems to me not as productive as her connecting with agencies that have the expertise and resources to assist her.

Best intentions notwithstanding, I think the BB community is being drawn into a very difficult situation. So maybe someone could give her those numbers and leave it at that. She seems quite capable of making phone calls. The rest of it is best left to professionals. In the end, they will do the most effective job.

[dm]

I’ve read all the posts, and I am up in the air about what to believe … but, that aside, I have been truly touched by the number of people so willing to help. You guys are a great bunch!