I dream of finding a nice mare and breeding to IdleHour Night Flight- I love the look of that horse!
OHHHH, I’m in lurve!!! What a hunka-hunka, and I have JUST the mare, the feminine version of him!!!
here: http://community.webshots.com/album/556431560MBFbkU?vhost=community
Pures are suppose to be bay. The only white allowed is a small star. A “CB” with lots of white is likely a CB sporthorse (i.e., a crossbred) rather than a purebred.
If there were enough pures to be out competing, I suspect they too would turn heads. I am hopeful that some of the younger stallions & colts will be showing up in competitive venues so that more folks will be exposed to the purebreds.
If you want a wonderful breed where you can make a big difference by breeding and showing, this is it!
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OHHHH, I’m in lurve!!! What a hunka-hunka, and I have JUST the mare, the feminine version of him!!!
here: http://community.webshots.com/album/556431560MBFbkU?vhost=community[/QUOTE]
umm fanfayre. nope she looks useless, you must get rid of her and I will be nice and take her off your hands!:winkgrin: For real, she is beautiful. You get the first baby, I get the second okay?
Night Flight is splendid, and absolutely awe-inspiring in person, but if you want temperament and brains as well as beauty, breed to his stable-mate Idle Hour Yorktown. That is a sweet horse as well as a very well-balanced one who throws tremendous foals. I believe Night Flight is half TB anyway. We are planning on a few babies from Yorkie.
We consider Clevelands and the Sporthorse CB crosses to be excellent animals for using.
However the draw back to the breeding is they need time to grow up. Big does not mean the brain is also grown up and ready to train. They need to be trained in the old-time ways, slowly with WAITING for body to grow and mature with time. They can be started under saddle gently at 3-4, but I would not be expecting them to do W-T-C with much coordination. The large bone that we love, doesn’t firm up, joints harden, until later in their life. Sometimes they are not mature at 6yrs! You certainly should not be jumping or putting long distances under their hooves before age 6, or you will have all the problems seen in other breeds started too young, problems that will hurt their long-time useability.
Slow growing, slow mental maturing, it the big problem with this breed in modern, “Want it now” society. They just don’t work that way.
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Msrobin, the $500 filly on Craiglist is not a purebred. Her sire is half CB. I suspect this filly is 1/4 CB. However, she is still a bargain. The filly’s grandsire that is the purebred CB is a lovely horse that stands in Oregon named Tregoyd William.[/QUOTE]
agree the star is to big for starters a cb acepted star is nothing more that a eith tiny half moon of afew brush marks on the center of the head no other white is allowed or seen in a purebred
:D:lol:Or we could do ET and each get the first. Thanks for your kind words, btw.
Actually, what am I thinking- I already have 2 youngsters- a 3yr old and Fanny’s filly- what do I need another youngster for? toeknee- if you really want a foal, pm me.
Night Flight is splendid, and absolutely awe-inspiring in person, but if you want temperament and brains as well as beauty, breed to his stable-mate Idle Hour Yorktown. That is a sweet horse as well as a very well-balanced one who throws tremendous foals. I believe Night Flight is half TB anyway. We are planning on a few babies from Yorkie.
As my mare is also 1/2CB, 1/2TB, we’d end up with a 1/2CB, 1/2TB, but Yorktown would definitely be a consideration
My CB/TB mare looked more like the TB half until she was almost 6. Now she is very CB looking.
Still waiting for the Perch/CB to grow up :eek: . She is still mouthing things-lunge line was the latest.
She sure loves the deworming paste, however. CB/TB is aghasted and eats dirt to get that awful taste out of her mouth. :lol:
Goodhors, based on my experience with my CB Sporthorse and what I have gathered talking to CB folks, you bring up a very good point. These are not horses that you break at 2 and have showing at advanced levels at 5 or 6.
However, they are worth the wait.
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For a rare breed, prices are cheap. I suspect therein lies part of the problem. If purebred youngstock were selling quickly and at good prices, everyone with a purebred mare would try to make sure the mare had a purebred foal. Even before the rotten economy, this was not the case. Too many purebred mares, here and in the UK are bred to something other than a CB stallion. [/QUOTE]
I have always bred 1/4 breds, as I believe that is the ultimate athlete. However I usually has 1-2 1/2 breds a year. Just last summer I bought my first pure mare. She is at the breeders now and “knock on wood” is at 20 days past her last breeding date and no signs of heat, so we’ll check her soon. I think the partbreds are the athletes but you do need the pures to make partbreds. My pure mare is very uphill built, is an awesome free jumper. I think she will make quite the athlete, but then I have to decide, show or breed? I will probably breed but will train her and try to show her when I can, at least prove she can do something. Prices are down in general, but these animals are amazing, and I think alot of the problem does arise in that we are a small group of sellers and the photography on some of the sale horses is, well, not the best. Check out the breed’s North American website at www.clevelandbay.org for a list of stallions, breeders and sale horses and just pictures in general! They are an AMAZING breed!
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Clevies are magnificent! It seems there’s nothing they can’t do. Fantastic for driving, of course–that’s what they’re for–but also wonderful at hunting, jumping, and dressage. How I would love to have a Cleveland mare! In any case I intend to breed my little TB mare to a perfectly splendid Cleveland stallion from Idle Hour Stud in St. Michaels, PA.[/QUOTE]
Which one Ashby? I have a pure and a 1/2 bred by IH Yorktown, plus I had one other IH Yorktown I sold. MY stallion is by Ramblers Richard Lionheart, had one other 1/2 bred by him also. The pure stallion I am breeding my mare to is (Richard X Earlswood First Edition).
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They are handsome and impressive horses! It’s so important to use the mares for purebreeding when there are so few - every crossbred foal is a lost year in the mare’s breeding life. Although I’ve heard great things about TB crosses - maybe that is the destiny of the CB?[/QUOTE]
I used to think we were producing too many Pure Colts for the market, now I think differently. I think the breed will be saved with the 1/4 and 1/2 breds. I think the pure colts will make excellent stallions to produce these crosses and the pure mares need to go to breeders who want to produce these AMAZING animals. I can’t tell you the temperament of my pure three year old mare, she is so laid back. My 10 year old partbred stallion, my daughter could handle if she needed to, and my two year old mare by Tregoyd William is really starting to come into her own. They are just the sweetest animals. I’ve never seen a “spooky” CB, they tend to take everything in stride.
Now stop…I’m blushing. 
Seriously there are so many NICE CB stallions out there…just to prove it I’ve bred to (personally my mares) Tregoyd William, Idlehour Yorktown (three times), Rambler’s Richard Lionheart (twice), Stainmore Wolfhound, Idlehour Lion’s Share, Forbes Native Statesman, and I have a breeding to a pure in NC left to use. I love to mix the blood up at my farm. I’ve also had on my farm and sold three Forest Fellow offspring (very nice horses!), had a Fryup Marvel for a while too. And the funny thing is my husband will say “boy does Felicity look like Aspen”. Richard and William offspring. Or friends came and said “boy does Aspen look like Smudge” (their stallion by FNS). They just all look so similar, and boy are they nice. Talk about SOUND barefoot, good bone, EASY keepers!
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She is still mouthing things-lunge line was the latest.
She sure loves the deworming paste, [/QUOTE]
Remember before she left how she grabbed the chain off my gate and took off with it? What is it with perch crosses and deworming paste? I have three right now and they are the EASIEST horses to deworm. Sort of neat. 
Hi Maria, Robert from Tandem Hill here. There are two of us that got the same CB crosses from you on here. How cool is that!
Did you ever find out the background on there stallion and what his lines are? It would be interesting to know more, if you have anything.
Robert
Tandem Hill Farm
www.tandemhillfarm.com
Oh, Maria, I forgot about that! Lilly also tries to open the latch on the roundpen gate.
If you send me your snailmail address I’ll send a really nice photo of Contention and Lilly standing at the top of the driveway (with the elec. tape across it). It’s a “Mommmm, we want to come hommmme” picture. As in right outside the back door home.
Both Contention and Lilly are barefoot and their feet look great. I love my CBs!
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Hi Maria, Robert from Tandem Hill here. There are two of us that got the same CB crosses from you on here. How cool is that!
Did you ever find out the background on there stallion and what his lines are? It would be interesting to know more, if you have anything.
Robert
Tandem Hill Farm
www.tandemhillfarm.com[/QUOTE]
About once a month, the daughter in law emails me and says “did you get my email two weeks ago with the pedigrees on all the horses”. I always say “no I didn’t”. Hopefully soon. The key is trying to help her register Sir Walter. Everyone is giving her suggestions, but nothing more. I may take the step and contact the CBHS and see what it is she needs to do. If Sir Walter is registered, everyone else is easy. I just got pictures of the two year old I sold in Feb that was a 1/2 sibling to all of those. She is STUNNING! I’ll have to pass the pictures on to you. I also talk to Marcia who owns the two from you, and the girl in NJ that has the other 3 year old mare at her barn. I’m not sure where the three year old gelding went. Would love to see pictures of your guys. I think you still have Nick? He was one of my favorites along with my Vicky. Is Nick your Sir John or is Sir John the other colt?
Hi, No Nick is still in that “all legs” stage, But he’s going to be BIG! The other one, Sir John is a wonderful looking horse! You would think he’s a purebred! Smart as can be, as willing as one could ask for and he has the kindest eye on a horse I have ever seen. There both standing just under 16 hand right now.
I’d love to see more CB’s driving over here, and remember I offer a 1/2 off training fee for them Maria! Who know’s you could have your own Frosty Oaks Coaching team before long! How about it?? lol
Robert
Tandem Hill Farm
www.tandemhillfarm.com
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I’d love to see more CB’s driving over here, and remember I offer a 1/2 off training fee for them Maria! Who know’s you could have your own Frosty Oaks Coaching team before long! How about it?? lol
Robert
Tandem Hill Farm
www.tandemhillfarm.com[/QUOTE]
Oh DON’T tempt me, my two year old needs a job and that would be an easy light weight one!
Frosty Oak, would make a nice name for a Road Coach!!!
I’d love to see a Coaching team of CB’s again. I tried to find a team for Kate last year for the WEG demo but theres none to be found.
We could still make it Maria!! I’ll get the horses going, You paint the coach!
Any Ideas on how we can get CB breeders more interested in driving Maria?
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