Doing business with JILL BURNELL? BEWARE.

[Fairview_Horse_Cente]

[QUOTE=lauriep;6631655]
But we have had offspring from more than 17 stallions pass through our barn. Can anyone else make that claim? I don’t think so. But it gives us a unique perspective and we are able to compare one to another. We have free jumped them. We deal with them on the ground. [/QUOTE]

I also have had offspring from 15-17 Warmblood stallions, plus about half a dozen or more Hunter, or Eventing type TB stallions offspring spend a good bit of tme in my barn, and I totally agree that is does give you a fairly unique perspective.

That said, I have sometimes come to totally different conclusions than the masses. One VERY popular warmblood stallion has been crossed a zillion times to TB mares, with often disappointing results in the temperament department.

That same stallion crosses amazingly well with full warmblood mares, but that is not what he has mostly been used for in the Hunter world.

Being able to compare several of a stallion’s offspring, out of similar and different type mares really is nice to be able to learn from. Especially nice when the boarders are paying me to board them, and the observing is more of a bonus.

[DownYonder]

Originally Posted by lauriep

But we have had offspring from more than 17 stallions pass through our barn. Can anyone else make that claim?

That is a little bit of a ridiculous statement as any trainer that has been around for any length of time will have dealt with offspring from many different stallions.

For instance, at my current barn, we have offspring from 19 different stallions. I think there were at least 14 different stallions represented at the previous barn, with offspring of additional stallions represented in previous years.

[lauriep]

Point taken. But MY point was that actually living with these horses gives you a much different perspective than watching them in HB classes and decreeing that they will not amount to much…

[DownYonder]

[QUOTE=lauriep;6632407]
Point taken. But MY point was that actually living with these horses gives you a much different perspective than watching them in HB classes and decreeing that they will not amount to much…[/QUOTE]

Agree, And time will tell if the Redwine offspring amount to much in the performance ring. We will have to take a look at the stats in a few years to see how he did as a sire of performance horses.

[Daventry]

[QUOTE=equinedriver;6510488]
For those of you that have posted that you got scammed and have “moved on”, it really won’t take that much effort for you to assist in putting a stop to her fraudulent activities. An hour at most. Contact me and send me copies of your contracts, cancelled checks, bank wire orders, emails etc. and I will package them for the FBI and Attorney General. After they receive the packet, you probably will get a phone call from the investigator to discuss your case, which was about 30 min for me. After that it has been nothing but me keeping track of deadlines, following through to find out what happened and then bugging them until they take the next step. I can easily set up an email list to keep everyone up to date after the case is opened. The power will be in the numbers…

This really is the only way to put a stop to it. Getting on here and bitching about her a couple times of year is very entertaining, but it won’t do any good except to maybe make you feel better after a good vent.[/QUOTE]

So, I’d like to know equinedriver…you put in all of this effort to finally get people to listen. To get people to finally stand up. To get people to stop being embarrassed and keeping it to themselves. To get people to finally do something…and then you fall off the face of the earth and leave all of them hanging…which makes them more embarrassed, more humiliated…defeated. Great job you did for everybody! :no: So, were you Jill? One of Jill’s friends? One of Jill’s clients? Did somebody threaten you to stop what you were doing? Threaten to sue you? And if that’s the case…for what? :rolleyes:

As a result, I’ve heard further rumors this fall that the never ending drama continues.

So all of those people that posted on here about being wronged, has anyone done anything, spoken to someone? Anything?

[HoofJustice]

[QUOTE=Daventry;6683701]
So, I’d like to know equinedriver…you put in all of this effort to finally get people to listen. To get people to finally stand up. To get people to stop being embarrassed and keeping it to themselves. To get people to finally do something…and then you fall off the face of the earth and leave all of them hanging…which makes them more embarrassed, more humiliated…defeated. Great job you did for everybody! :no: So, were you Jill? One of Jill’s friends? One of Jill’s clients? Did somebody threaten you to stop what you were doing? Threaten to sue you? And if that’s the case…for what? :rolleyes:

As a result, I’ve heard further rumors this fall that the never ending drama continues.

So all of those people that posted on here about being wronged, has anyone done anything, spoken to someone? Anything?[/QUOTE]

I am doing something about it. Please contact me with any and all information regarding the Burnell matter. These horses and owner have moved into Marin County. Thank you for any information you have.

[COTHalter44]

While I do think it’s odd and somewhat crappy that ED has disappeared, I do not think she is Jill or one of her friends based on her posting history here. Although, I could be wrong…

Thank you HoofJustice for taking this on. Something needs to be done.

Daventry, I have also heard of much drama this fall even though she’s been silent on the forums, Facebook and so forth. It’s never ending.

[mbm]

i would suggest that one of the “known” COTH folks team up with hoofjustice so there is another person that has the info in case this person goes “poof”

[COTHalter44]

A quick peek at HoofJustice’s email reveals that he/she is from the Marin Humane Society.

[Mardi]

Glad to see this is still humming along, and people are still interested and active.

But was disappointed to read that shenanigans have continued, after all the time spent on getting the word out.

[mbm]

COTHalter44 - you might remove that email addy from this thread… it can be seen by anyone and not just folks who have user IDs here.

[Laurierace]

I find it interesting that the humane society may be investigating. While there may or may not be a humane issue, there absolutely is a criminal element to her business that needs to be addressed for this fraud to come to an end. Not sure if they can do anything about that part or not.

[horsepoor]

[QUOTE=mbm;6685027]
COTHalter44 - you might remove that email addy from this thread… it can be seen by anyone and not just folks who have user IDs here.[/QUOTE]
Yeah- they might not have realized the e-mail address was public (easy mistake to make when registering here) and I don’t think it is right to publish it like that without permission.

[COTHalter44]

[QUOTE=mbm;6685027]
COTHalter44 - you might remove that email addy from this thread… it can be seen by anyone and not just folks who have user IDs here.[/QUOTE]

Done. Sorry about that. I knew emails had been posted earlier in this thread so thought since it was public it was ok. My mistake.

[mbm]

[QUOTE=horsepoor;6685284]
Yeah- they might not have realized the e-mail address was public (easy mistake to make when registering here) and I don’t think it is right to publish it like that without permission.[/QUOTE]

i do not think that the public can see the email addresses for users here. only if you have a user ID and are signed in can you get to the info re: email addy’s afaik.

[horsepoor]

[QUOTE=mbm;6685752]
i do not think that the public can see the email addresses for users here. only if you have a user ID and are signed in can you get to the info re: email addy’s afaik.[/QUOTE]

I meant that new people do not always know the email address is publicly available to other members. You have to set it on your profile so it doesn’t show up (as mine is). Then when someone adds it to a thread as above, it is public to anyone. So we’re on the same page.

And thanks alter44 for making the change. Just in case that’s an issue for that person (and maybe it isn’t).

[mbm]

ahhh gottcha

and yes, thanks COTHalter44 !

[dogdays]

![]( have been following this thread for some time and I thought I remembered equinedriver saying she was from Aiken SC, so I went back and searched.
I found this post: "
equinedriver
[IMG]http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/images/statusicon/user-offline.png) Working Hunter

		 				 					Join DateJul. 19, 2003LocationAiken SCPosts555 					 					 				
		 		
  	 		 		 		 		[h=2][IMG]http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.png)[/h] 		 				 				 		 			 				[INDENT] 					I moved to Aiken 2 years ago from the mid west.  We had not moved  in 22 years. The thing I like about it is that VERY FEW of the horse  people here are from Aiken, so they are very welcoming. You don't feel  like the 5th wheel trying to get into an already established group.  

I went into shock over hay prices, but have found a way to deal with that. The hunter jumper scene is fairly active, but not on a major scale like eventing. Highfields does a nice job with the PSJ shows so as long as you aren’t looking for the big time, you should be quite happy with what you would find there. [/INDENT]

[Laurierace]

I don’t get it. What’s your point Dogdays?

[dogdays]

Just doesn’t sound like she is Jill. I read where some thought she might be, that’s all.