Doing business with JILL BURNELL? BEWARE.

PROOF

Just got copies of the recorded JUDGEMENTS AGAINST JILL BURNELL

Household Finance owed $11,002.26 Document 2008096823

Turner, Reynolds, et al owed $64,684.43 Document 2011028070 (WOW – wonder why she needed so much legal counsel? Guess they do not take horses for payment!!)

Myron Hinrichs (vet)owed $5,080.00
Document 2011098447

Rivertown FEED owed $4,340.
83 Document 2012004127

PROOF JILL BURNELL DOES NOT PAY JUDGEMENTS and has LOST IN COURT.

[QUOTE=Appsolute;6770561]
Just got copies of the recorded JUDGEMENTS AGAINST JILL BURNELL

Household Finance owed $11,002.26 Document 2008096823

Turner, Reynolds, et al owed $64,684.43 Document 2011028070 (WOW – wonder why she needed so much legal counsel? Guess they do not take horses for payment!!)

Myron Hinrichs (vet)owed $5,080.00
Document 2011098447

Rivertown FEED owed $4,340.
83 Document 2012004127

PROOF JILL BURNELL DOES NOT PAY JUDGEMENTS and has LOST IN COURT.[/QUOTE]

Here is another one, with a copy of the arrest warrant. http://www.ratemyhorsepro.com/equine-court/civil-matters/waldenbrook-farm-inc-plaintiff-v-jill-burnell-defendant.aspx

Nice to see Jill is following the thread with interest. How are the bookings going for this year?

JB is lucky Maggie Weems is a current USEF member, horse owner and Breeder…it is nice to be able to barter and not have to come up with cash to pay your bills. :frowning:

[QUOTE=NJRider;6770587]
JB is lucky Maggie Weems is a current USEF member, horse owner and Breeder…it is nice to be able to barter and not have to come up with cash to pay your bills. :([/QUOTE]

and Kirsten Strain, who is a real estate agent, probably helped her find this out of the way property to hide at.

[QUOTE=Appsolute;6770561]
Just got copies of the recorded JUDGEMENTS AGAINST JILL BURNELL

Household Finance owed $11,002.26 Document 2008096823

Turner, Reynolds, et al owed $64,684.43 Document 2011028070 (WOW – wonder why she needed so much legal counsel? Guess they do not take horses for payment!!)

Myron Hinrichs (vet)owed $5,080.00
Document 2011098447

Rivertown FEED owed $4,340.
83 Document 2012004127

PROOF JILL BURNELL DOES NOT PAY JUDGEMENTS and has LOST IN COURT.[/QUOTE]

I am surprised that the journalists (including the person who wrote the COTH article) thought that these judgements were not of interest to their readers.

Perhaps a more comprehensive article is in order.

I covered $1500 worth of hot checks written by Jill Burnell when we partnered on a Redwine colt briefly, one of the two checks to IHF for Redwine as her check had bounced, the other check to GOV to register the filly I took in trade to get out of the partnership when I quickly realized the dishonestly of Gray Fox Farm’s owner. Of the weanling taken in trade, Ms. Burnell sent the filly very bloated and, as a three year old now, the now-healthy filly is still undersized. She wrote hot checks to GOV and AHS, forgot to pay Peter Pletcher and John French for showing her stallions and was taken to court by both though forgot to attend the hearing, sold a crippled filly to another friend without disclosing the injury, owes money now to at least two prominent trainers, had hay delivered by a CA grower without paying him, stiffed her vet, stiffed her feed company, and has done more shady and/or incomplete business than anyone I’ve ever even heard of. She tends to drop any client who questions her integrity and be unreachable. She’s mishandled and misrepresented an EVA-positive stallion. She does not bother to IGG test her newborn foals and her breeding environment from the photos shown in this thread is filthy. To me, this is a sign of real sociopathic behavior. I hope that Ms. Weems understands whom she is representing and I am VERY glad I’ve kept documentation of my dealings with Ms. Burnell of two years ago and very appreciative of GOV for helping me obtain papers for this filly when Ms. Burnell refused to send her dam’s papers to GOV. I have quite a few testamonies on file from others who have been frauded by this woman so can back up some of the postings on this thread. To me, the fact that her web site has consistently mispresented her business for at least the two years I’ve been exposed to this mess and the fact that the web is international in reach represents internet fraud.

[QUOTE=lauriep;6770514]
I want to address the dead foal thing because it keeps coming up. Because we were speaking on a daily basis back ten, she told me that two foals had died (don’t know about a third, if there really was one) within a day of each other, one from an injury, I think, and one that never thrived from time of birth. Now, her TINY property was in the middle of a residential neighborhood where I am sure you were not allowed to bury animals. So, she would have had to wait for the disposal company to come and get them. And what do you do til then? Put a tarp over them and hope they come quickly.

I am not making excuses, but having been in the horse world so long, I know that horses die when it isn’t convenient for them to be buried or picked up, sometimes for a couple of days. So, I really don’t think this particular story adds anything to the other, clearer evidence, of her poor husbandry.[/QUOTE]

this is exactly what happens… depending on how long it takes the renderer to get there the horse could be on the ground dead for over 24 hours… i used to board at a retirement facility and oldsters died periodically and they would be there, on the ground for however long it took for the guy to get there…

i personally think the abuse charges will be dropped and all horses returned… if people want justice to be served they will need to lawyer up and FIGHT.

Yes, Diane. Good post. It seems to me that the “culture” here from many is going to the dark side of worrying about what may get JB off the hook…so they are really playing her game.

Upward and onward. The internet is a media outlet. People get razzed all the time about stuff in the news.

I doubt that COTH members that are razzed about this, will have any impact on the outcome of this case. Piling on is a silly term and a little PC.

This is what it is and everyone here knows it. People need to stop being so afraid. Isn’t that what stopped so many she abused from stepping up in the first place. This is not the time for weakness, but at time for strength and no wimpiness. Your thread just made that very clear to those who need to hear the bottom line, again.

BTW…“sociopaths”, which it seems to me JB is always find a team of enablers that allows them to continue their bad deeds. For to expect for them to suddenly “see the light” is unrealistic. Very tangled, this stuff is.

My prayers go out every night for these horses, that justice will be done for them and all those that got sucked into the dark side of horse breeding, but did not know that they were.

She’s a master of deceipt. Let’s just hope the courts see that, with back up from those who paid the price for her ILLEGAL activities.

There is a third prominent trainer who showed one of the stallions fairly extensively for her. He was also stiffed, but I am not comfortable outing his name without permission.

I don’t know about “abuse” charges, but criminal fraud sounds like it may well be within reason with this person.

Sid, the piling on comments are addressed to those who don’t actually have any dealings with her, but just come on here to add hearsay, or huff and puff. Which is fine, but it a) doesn’t add useful proof and b) gives the wrong impression of a lynch mob to those only casually aware of the situation. REAL fraud or theft, withREAL PROOF, is what is needed to go forward with any legal proceedings.

Chad, John, Peter. No secrets there.

[QUOTE=dianehalpin;6770649]
I covered $1500 worth of hot checks written by Jill Burnell when we partnered on a Redwine colt briefly, one of the two checks to IHF for Redwine as her check had bounced, the other check to GOV to register the filly I took in trade to get out of the partnership when I quickly realized the dishonestly of Gray Fox Farm’s owner. Of the weanling taken in trade, Ms. Burnell sent the filly very bloated and, as a three year old now, the now-healthy filly is still undersized. She wrote hot checks to GOV and AHS, forgot to pay Peter Pletcher and John French for showing her stallions and was taken to court by both though forgot to attend the hearing, sold a crippled filly to another friend without disclosing the injury, owes money now to at least two prominent trainers, had hay delivered by a CA grower without paying him, stiffed her vet, stiffed her feed company, and has done more shady and/or incomplete business than anyone I’ve ever even heard of. She tends to drop any client who questions her integrity and be unreachable. She’s mishandled and misrepresented an EVA-positive stallion. She does not bother to IGG test her newborn foals and her breeding environment from the photos shown in this thread is filthy. To me, this is a sign of real sociopathic behavior. I hope that Ms. Weems understands whom she is representing and I am VERY glad I’ve kept documentation of my dealings with Ms. Burnell of two years ago and very appreciative of GOV for helping me obtain papers for this filly when Ms. Burnell refused to send her dam’s papers to GOV. I have quite a few testamonies on file from others who have been frauded by this woman so can back up some of the postings on this thread. To me, the fact that her web site has consistently mispresented her business for at least the two years I’ve been exposed to this mess and the fact that the web is international in reach represents internet fraud.[/QUOTE]

Here ya go people, Documented proof, nice job Diane. I have a Redwine gelding, who was bred in Germany Before JB imported the stallion. He is on the AA circuit now competeing in the Pregreen 3’3" incentive program, SO I do have an interest in seeing Redwine’s name cleared of JB, if at all possible. (and his picture taken off her website).

Laurie, gotcha. I’ve obviously following as this is so horrific. As I’m sure many others are. Hard to tame down the angered masses that actually got this exposed.

And that’s probably not a bad thing. Were there not so much ire that showewd up here, that would be pitiful from our industry.

At this point the JB case it might be a double sided sword. Nevertheless, the feelings and facts should not be silenced… the those things got this the attention out there.

We cannot control everything. And sometimes I personally thing we shoudn’t.:wink:

Maybe this was already discussed.

A link to this new article probably has already been posted somewhere here. No one appears to officially know (or can’t say) which stallion was injured and removed, but interesting that that particular stallion appears to be sold. Doesn’t someone here (I can’t remember the name of the farm–it’s the one who sponsors the stallion testing) have a lien on one of the stallions?

“Weems, whose office is in Fairfax, said she also represents a Georgia woman who bought the stallion and was waiting for it to be shipped before it was injured and confiscated. According to Weems, the stallion was hurt not from abuse or neglect, but in a fight with another stallion.”

Is this old news?

http://www.marinij.com/novato/ci_22327901/marin-authorities-seize-more-horses-from-chileno-valley

I think the lien is on Aloha, as he is the one that was at the test, if I am not mistaken.

Appsolute, I need to get in touch with you ASAP. Your mailbox is full on here. Zip me an email.

[QUOTE=Callmeacab;6770519]
Getting a judgement against someone will only put you in a long line of liens against that person’s property, if they own any. At a certain point, there can be more liens on a property than it’s worth. I know of one person who racked up three times the value of the property, and the bank wouldn’t even foreclose on it, as they would then have inherited the liens on the property. After a while, it’s meaningless paper, as it will never be recouped, so one has to ask “why bother?”. This doesn’t mean don’t try, but if you learn that you’re number 100 in a long line of liens, sometimes people will cut their losses and move on. This is how serial con artists work the system, and keep getting away with it. Makes you long for the old “debtor’s prison”.[/QUOTE]

But it costs very litle to file a lawsuit against her. California has “fill in the blank” forms; you do not even need an attorney. If you fill in the form and pay the filing fee you don’t have to serve her right then. Just get the dispute filed in the court’s database. The more lawsuits that are on record, the less likely other people (who think to check things like this) will do business with her.

When I was an attorney in California I had to do this against a contractor who had done shoddy work on my house. Within several days of the lawsuit being filed I received calls (this was before the Internet) from other people who had had trouble with this same contractor. He saw the writing on the wall and brought his work up to code.

If everyone with a legal dispute files a complaint (“in pro Per” – acting as his/her own attorney) against JB they will each: 1. Toll the Statute of Limitations and 2. Create a public record. If there are enough complaints filed agaisnt her, then, at a later date if the Plaintiff’s want, they can be consolidated and each Plaintiff can substitue in an attorney who will represent all the Plaintiffs who have similar interests.

ETA: I just saw that John French (and Peter Pletcher?) got a default Judgment against JB. All he had to do was fiile a complaint, have her served by a process server, and show up at the hearing. If Jill Doesn’t appear, then Plaintiff wins, and the Judgment is a matter of public record. Easy Peasy.

Point being: there is no excuse for doing nothing.

[QUOTE=Appsolute;6770561]
Just got copies of the recorded JUDGEMENTS AGAINST JILL BURNELL

Household Finance owed $11,002.26 Document 2008096823

Turner, Reynolds, et al owed $64,684.43 Document 2011028070 (WOW – wonder why she needed so much legal counsel? Guess they do not take horses for payment!!)

Myron Hinrichs (vet)owed $5,080.00
Document 2011098447

Rivertown FEED owed $4,340.
83 Document 2012004127

PROOF JILL BURNELL DOES NOT PAY JUDGEMENTS and has LOST IN COURT.[/QUOTE]

I forwarded all of this information to Gary Klein from the Marin Independent Journal. Wonder if he will do more than Brent would?