[QUOTE=DeucesWild11;6514202]
I edited what I said so noone feels disrespected. I was tired and cranky. I am blocking all the trolls on this thread (as to not feed them!) and getting the heck out of dodge![/QUOTE]
Although it pained me ;); I just took some time to go back & delete my troll feeding – just not the best use of the space, I decided. And using the “ADD To IGNORE LIST” option accessed on the public profile of the troll poster has removed a lot of temptation.
MAN!! This eagle Mike kid really likes to try and make EVERYTHING about him. Get over yourself!!
You don’t even know this Jill woman apparently, and yet you are here 24/7 reading, posting and getting your knickers in a twist over FACTS that have been posted multiple times. Seriously??? You are not a horse person??? Why do you care!?!? Justice for Jill?? Are you really that out in left field that you do not see the PROOF that she has screwed over many many innocent horse lovers??
[edit] I can’t even imagine caring this much about some random person I hardly know and their business interests for the sake of argument.
[QUOTE=Equilibrium;6514294]
Should add, they were not in the same year just in case people are wondering. Trust me I questioned myself enough about being able to properly care for and raise babies.
Terri[/QUOTE]
And, even if it was in the same year; you knew the cause of death.
[QUOTE=Jealoushe;6514504]
MAN!! This eagle Mike kid really likes to try and make EVERYTHING about him. Get over yourself!!
You don’t even know this Jill woman apparently, and yet you are here 24/7 reading, posting and getting your knickers in a twist over FACTS that have been posted multiple times. Seriously??? You are not a horse person??? Why do you care!?!? Justice for Jill?? Are you really that out in left field that you do not see the PROOF that she has screwed over many many innocent horse lovers??
[edit] I can’t even imagine caring this much about some random person I hardly know and their business interests for the sake of argument.[/QUOTE]
I may be completely wrong, but I think he is just frantically trying to help his GF out, deciding whether she should “pull the trigger” as he phrased it. I really don’t think he cares one hoot about JB. Hes is tring to protect the GF.
[QUOTE=arabhorse2;6514383]
You apparently have problems with reading comprehension, Mike.
She was talking about two of her OWN foals, not the three belonging to Jill.
So tell me again, just who is jumping to conclusions?[/QUOTE]
When I just checked, this THREAD had been viewed 116,090 times. I feel very confident stating as a fact and not just opinion that any human being of average intelligence and with any human decency will realize very quickly who the trolls are and make their own judgments. That some very few posters have chosen to defend the indefensible and also provide names and phone numbers just lets those 116,090 viewers know exactly who they are and what they stand for. Put those whose views are offensive on your ignore list and let them shout into the void – their words speak more about them than any rebuttals ever will.
If someone posts a LIE about somebody, please report it to the moderators and the libled party.
My name is Leah, and I am a troll feeder. It has been almost 1 day since I have fed a troll 
What’s the deal with the foals? One new forum member posting under a COTHalter says they saw 3 dead foals under a blanket.
Can anyone substantiate that claim or otherwise prove it factual? There are enough factual items to make the situation disturbing, but the crazy off handed random posts by alters and newbies (either pro or con!) really create gray (no pun intended) area that clouds truth v fact. Nobody has questioned this “dead foal” claim thus far, which is a bit of a puzzle to me.
[QUOTE=rapazzini09;6513947]
any ideas which foals were the 3 dead ones? i really hope their dams are ok and that no one had purchased them in-utero.[/QUOTE]
I know the ID of one as it was one that I was interested in 
, but not the others. Don’t want to say much more here but I will be happy to share via PM.
What’s the deal with the foals? One new forum member posting under a COTHalter says they saw 3 dead foals under a blanket.
I will be happy to give contact info for the people that were with me that day privately. They will say the same.
[QUOTE=COTHalter44;6513281]
Cancelled the night before. I am sure none of the foals will be registered this year. :no:
Sorry but the house does not even top the THREE dead foals laying under a horse blanket outside her barn last year (2011) in the sun until she could dispose of them. A horrible image I will never get out of my head.[/QUOTE]
This is our credible source?
[QUOTE=COTHalter44;6514554]
I will be happy to give contact info for the people that were with me that day privately. They will say the same.[/QUOTE]
Was she reported? Did anyone DO anything about it? AC doesn’t usually look fondly upon multiple dead bodies laying around.
As a non-Jill supporter I question the claim and did post on another bulletin board that it’s likely not true…due to a bit of hysteria over there
If it’s true and that’s what happened, there is NO reason to post under an alter name. As well, if it did happen, I’m sure Jill knows who the heck you are anyways. :lol: But again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with posting the truth on here. It’s posting blatant lies that will get you in trouble. :yes:
Tone it down, folks. There is zero IP evidence to support the claims that eagle74 is anyone but who he says he is, and he’s given a perhaps ill-advised abundance of personal identifying information in this thread and his profile. It’s feasible that he found this thread, posted his own experiences, and got as caught up in the dramatics of the whole situation as many others participating in the thread have been.
He wouldn’t be the first person to continue posting on a thread for entertainment value, for example.
We appreciate that the issues addressed in this thread are a huge concern for members of the industry, which is likely feeding into the frustration with eagle47, so let’s keep things focused on the main issues vs. miring the thread down with bickering and assumptions.
There hasn’t been any posting activity for quite a while under the grayfox account, so that makes it harder to pinpoint IP overlaps with potential alter issues. There may be a couple of things that raise an eyebrow behind the scenes for us, but nothing actionable at this time, in terms of current alters, so if we can’t tell, it’s likely you can’t be sure either, so please avoid automatically writing off anyone posting with a divergent opinion as an alter.
And as always, please avoid the name calling, etc. if you’d like the thread to remain open as a resource for discussion.
Thanks
Mod 1
[QUOTE=Yowsa;6514551]
What’s the deal with the foals? One new forum member posting under a COTHalter says they saw 3 dead foals under a blanket.
Can anyone substantiate that claim or otherwise prove it factual? There are enough factual items to make the situation disturbing, but the crazy off handed random posts by alters and newbies (either pro or con!) really create gray (no pun intended) area that clouds truth v fact. Nobody has questioned this “dead foal” claim thus far, which is a bit of a puzzle to me.[/QUOTE]
This situation has reached the critical mass where we don’t assume victims are lying about Jill Burnell. Personally, I think that is exactly right. This is not a court of law, and Jill Burnell will surely have her day in court. This is a forum where people are sharing their own experiences – positive, negative, or mixed and where we can share opinions and feelings. Again, not a court of law.
[QUOTE=Jealoushe;6514504]
MAN!! This eagle Mike kid really likes to try and make EVERYTHING about him. Get over yourself!!
You don’t even know this Jill woman apparently, and yet you are here 24/7 reading, posting and getting your knickers in a twist over FACTS that have been posted multiple times. Seriously??? You are not a horse person??? Why do you care!?!? Justice for Jill?? Are you really that out in left field that you do not see the PROOF that she has screwed over many many innocent horse lovers??
[edit] I can’t even imagine caring this much about some random person I hardly know and their business interests for the sake of argument.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps Mike and Jill met online and have a relationship based on that??:winkgrin:
[QUOTE=Moderator 1;6514570]
Tone it down, folks. There is zero IP evidence to support the claims that eagle74 is anyone but who he says he is, and he’s given a perhaps ill-advised abundance of personal identifying information in this thread and his profile. It’s feasible that he found this thread, posted his own experiences, and got as caught up in the dramatics of the whole situation as many others participating in the thread have been.
He wouldn’t be the first person to continue posting on a thread for entertainment value, for example.
We appreciate that the issues addressed in this thread are a huge concern for members of the industry, which is likely feeding into the frustration with eagle47, so let’s keep things focused on the main issues vs. miring the thread down with bickering and assumptions.
There hasn’t been any posting activity for quite a while under the grayfox account, so that makes it harder to pinpoint IP overlaps with potential alter issues. There may be a couple of things that raise an eyebrow behind the scenes for us, but nothing actionable at this time, in terms of current alters, so if we can’t tell, it’s likely you can’t be sure either, so please avoid automatically writing off anyone posting with a divergent opinion as an alter.
And as always, please avoid the name calling, etc. if you’d like the thread to remain open as a resource for discussion.
Thanks
Mod 1[/QUOTE]
But Grayfox just sent me this private message today, so she apparently is actively following this thread…
To say I’m disappointed in you would be an understatement. I’m asking you to retract your statements. As a direct competetor for stallion services this seems a lot self serving on your part. I don’t even have a sister in law. Of course the truth never seems to be all that important if it helps your stallion and damages my business.
Jill Burnell
[QUOTE=Fairview Horse Center;6514410]
um, you may want to read for clarity. Equilibruim was talking about HER OWN 2 foals not being in the same year.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, but here’s the original post:
Originally Posted by COTHalter44
Cancelled the night before. I am sure none of the foals will be registered this year.
Sorry but the house does not even top the THREE dead foals laying under a horse blanket outside her barn last year (2011) in the sun until she could dispose of them. A horrible image I will never get out of my head.
See, my reading comprehension is not in question!
If I saw 3 dead anything at a breeding farm, I’m getting on the phone and calling Animal Control! Shame on you for not contacting someone who could have done something about it!
Hello everyone,
It has taken me quite some time to read through all the postings on this thread and although my situation has been mentioned briefly in a few postings I think it is appropriate to give my personal account.
In late March/early April of this year I decided to re-home my young horse, a mare by Rio Grande. She was the first horse purchase of my adult life and I had very high hopes for her. Unfortunately, after having her under saddle for less than a year, an injury surfaced that rendered her un-fit for riding. Since I could no longer ride her and I don’t have property of my own to keep her on, I made the decision to find a good home for her as a broodmare to live out the rest of her life. I put ads up for her and received several emails, but I tried to be fair and observed the “first come, first serve” policy. Quite a few people contacted me but JB was the first to do so. She initiated the discussion with me over email under the name “Alex” mere hours after the ad was posted. “Alex” then gave me call, introducing herself as Jill, but I did not give it any thought because so many people had contacted me I figured I was getting my names mixed up. Over the phone, she painted a very beautiful picture of her farm, breeding program, and care of the horses. She told me my horse would live out the rest of her life in luxury. Talking with her gave me the confidence that my horse was going to a good home. Not knowing anything about breeding and being a trusting person (to a fault), I made the decision to send my horse to JB. I want to emphasize, this all happened in a matter of hours after I put up the posting.
Within two days JB sent me a payment (via paypal) for the very reasonable re-homing fee I had asked from her. A hauler was scheduled to pick my horse up one day later. Between the time that I accepted her payment and the hauler was scheduled to pick up my horse I came upon the knowledge that Jill would not be a good home for my horse. Specifically, I found out she has an active warrant for her arrest and a public notice of a trustee’s sale due to default of payment on the property deed that the she and her husband own, the same address as seen in her payment to me.
This is in fact the same property that my horse was going to be living on. Under the guidance of my agent/trainer and others, I rescinded the oral agreement I had with Jill under the grounds of false representation of a good home. We never had a written bill of sale. I made multiple attempts to return the money to Jill but each time she rejected it. I tried twice via PayPal, but the second time she reported my account as fraud and I was put on a hold. I also emailed her and asked her where I can send the money, but received no such response.
The next time I heard from Jill after sending that email was a month later being served the claim that she made for $10,000. Never did she try to contact me regarding this demand, as she states and signed in the claims paperwork as doing.
The time arrived to have our scheduled court date and although I brought a bank check made out to her and offered it to her, she refused, saying she would only take over 5 times the amount she had paid me. Of course, I was not going to agree to this. The judge dismissed the case in the county she filed in because it was the wrong county – neither of us even lived within its boundary. I understand now why she did not file in Sonoma County, for fear of being served with judgments she has out for her there. She has threatened to serve me in the county I reside in and I welcome it. I have a herd of people behind me, ready to stand up against her.
Although it will be fun to see the look on JB’s face when a crowd of people enter the courtroom to try to get back what she owes them, I honestly wish it had not come to this. I just wanted to find my horse a home and know that she would be safe and well cared for. I do consider myself lucky that my horse never actually ended up in her hands. This experience has unfortunately taught me that some people are not really how they present themselves and that in future dealings, I will be far more pro-active in doing research about someone with whom I am doing business with, making sure that they can uphold their end of the contract, rather than just simply taking their word for it.
I hope that those who still support JB and GFF can understand and accept that many people have been wronged by her. We are not making this up. I believe she is one of the most dishonest and manipulative people in the horse business and I am not afraid to spread the word. Thanks for all the support and please feel free to PM me if you would like to be part of my case against JB.
Stephanie
[QUOTE=eagle74;6514645]
Thanks, but here’s the original post:
Originally Posted by COTHalter44
Cancelled the night before. I am sure none of the foals will be registered this year.
Sorry but the house does not even top the THREE dead foals laying under a horse blanket outside her barn last year (2011) in the sun until she could dispose of them. A horrible image I will never get out of my head.
See, my reading comprehension is not in question!
If I saw 3 dead anything at a breeding farm, I’m getting on the phone and calling Animal Control! Shame on you for not contacting someone who could have done something about it![/QUOTE]
AC was called. I never said it wasn’t. Apparently they are useless. :no:
I also said that I’d be happy to give my contact info privately and that of those who were with me that day. I’m not dumb enough to post it publicly. :rolleyes:
OK, come on Moderators. Can you not check the IP from the PM sent to horsechick and see if it matches any of the other “house guests” or “alters” lists that were already given to you?
[QUOTE=horsechick;6514644]
But Grayfox just sent me this private message today, so she apparently is actively following this thread…
To say I’m disappointed in you would be an understatement. I’m asking you to retract your statements. As a direct competetor for stallion services this seems a lot self serving on your part. I don’t even have a sister in law. Of course the truth never seems to be all that important if it helps your stallion and damages my business.
Jill Burnell
***************[/QUOTE]
What? She doesn’t have a SIL?
Please stop being hostile to those coming forward
[QUOTE=COTHalter44;6514652]
AC was called. I never said it wasn’t. Apparently they are useless. :no:
I also said that I’d be happy to give my contact info privately and that of those who were with me that day. I’m not dumb enough to post it publicly. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Thank you for taking the time to come forward. I am very sorry that you had to experience that; and sorry that the initial reaction by some is still skepticism - especially given your clear willingness to share further details privately.
Could you please PM Equinedriver with your info and have the other witnesses do the same? The more contacts and details that we can provide to the investigators; the better.
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