Doing business with JILL BURNELL? BEWARE.

I have a legit question regarding the horses being moved to another farm with grass. Does anyone else have the same concerns?

Horses never having access to grass, and then being moved to a field/fields with grass…with no barn, sounds like a recipe for grass founder unless many muzzles are used in the beginning of the transition.

[QUOTE=ahf;6515729]
Jan, to my knowledge, Redwine has never been approved for breeding for the Hanoverians. Not here, not in Germany.

I believe you are thinking of Federalist and Romantic Star. Who are absolutely Hanoverian approved, but not as I understand it, activated.

(ETA - Edgar beat me to it.)[/QUOTE]

You’re both absolutely correct. My bad … should have finished the sentence by saying the same holds true for the Hanoverian approved stallions (not activated due to unpaid bills).

Thanks for clarifying!

[QUOTE=Acertainsmile;6515781]
I have a legit question regarding the horses being moved to another farm with grass. Does anyone else have the same concerns?

Horses never having access to grass, and then being moved to a field/fields with grass…with no barn, sounds like a recipe for grass founder unless many muzzles are used in the beginning of the transition.[/QUOTE]

I think if you did an abrupt transition, that could be a problem…when I’ve brought my OTTBs home from the track, I started out with short hand grazing and gradually increasing it to full turnout. I see your point though, because would that have been done in this case?

This late in the season, it’s likely that the grass is all dead and dry, which would minimize the risk, at least. I think it’s unlikely that the horses moved into a lush, green, growing field.

Small to no issue in this case. Norcal at this time is going through it’s “Mediterranean seasons” ie a rainless summer, and most of the grass is yellow and dead. The OP provided a link to the future 35 acre property and it does not appear to be irrigated.

ETA I see Simkie beat me to it.

Havent a clue whats going on with grass on the West Coast…just thought about it when looking at my fields this morning, we’ve had some rain so fields are now lush and green once more (yay).

Good to know that things are drying up in CA, can’t imagine slowly introducing grass to 30 head with no barn. :frowning:

[QUOTE=equinedriver;6514794]
So please, any of you out there with signed unfulfilled contracts, monies paid for goods or services not received, please do contact me.[/QUOTE]

This may be a silly question but it’s been stated that there are at least two registries that have money owed them due to bounced checks. Can they be included in your compilation? If yes, please PM me your information and I will forward to their attention.

You’re very kind to take on this mission.

For your reading pleasure:

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332329&highlight=IHF+nomination

It seems like I really have you in a quandry, eh 2bayboys? Since this is a public forum, and you don’t have the monopoly on the site, I’m free to post my opinion as well. If you go back to the beginning of this post, I posted the photos after the SIL stated the animals were abused. Then after the “shock and awe” died down, it was stated that the horses looked fine. Maybe from the photos I posted? If so, then I feel like I did something in regards to the truth not spread conjecture.

Funny, I never supplied any information on myself until I was accused of being Jill, her husband, yada yada so I posted my phone number, big deal. Then some Rona Barrett decides it’s important to be Dick Tracy and post my info based on looking up my profile and cross referencing it with my facebook. Daventry obviously looked at my facebook as she questioned me on specific photos. Now someone has gone so far as to check the FAA to see who I am! Really?

“Since you’ve provided so much information about yourself (officer, pilot, farmer, coach”

Same info you provided as well 2bayboys! Hunt away, you’ve obviously confused me with someone who gives a sh*t!

“You obviously are in communication with JB, since you made comments about the SIL’s financial interest in removing the parents from the home”

Wrong again, I “speculated” in regards to the SIL’s financial interest, nothing more and definitely not in communication with Jill. Since my number is up on this Board, I’m sure one of the resourceful women can delve into my phone records to try and disprove this as well!

“poor spelling” OOOPs, please get out your red pencil and highlight so as to discredit me. Next you’ll be critiquing my CAT III landings!

Didn’t you just hate it when the hubby went TDY to Cubi Point? I’m sure he stayed on base though and never went in to Olongapo. Test him by asking him what he knows about LBFM’s and see if he gets a little twinkle in his eye:;);):wink:

originally posted by eagle74:
"It seems like I really have you in a quandry, eh 2bayboys? Since this is a public forum, and you don’t have the monopoly on the site, I’m free to post my opinion as well. If you go back to the beginning of this post, I posted the photos after the SIL stated the animals were abused. Then after the “shock and awe” died down, it was stated that the horses looked fine. Maybe from the photos I posted? If so, then I feel like I did something in regards to the truth not spread conjecture.

Funny, I never supplied any information on myself until I was accused of being Jill, her husband, yada yada so I posted my phone number, big deal. Then some Rona Barrett decides it’s important to be Dick Tracy and post my info based on looking up my profile and cross referencing it with my facebook. Daventry obviously looked at my facebook as she questioned me on specific photos. Now someone has gone so far as to check the FAA to see who I am! Really?

“Since you’ve provided so much information about yourself (officer, pilot, farmer, coach”

Same info you provided as well 2bayboys! Hunt away, you’ve obviously confused me with someone who gives a sh*t!

“You obviously are in communication with JB, since you made comments about the SIL’s financial interest in removing the parents from the home”

Wrong again, I “speculated” in regards to the SIL’s financial interest, nothing more and definitely not in communication with Jill. Since my number is up on this Board, I’m sure one of the resourceful women can delve into my phone records to try and disprove this as well!

“poor spelling” OOOPs, please get out your red pencil and highlight so as to discredit me. Next you’ll be critiquing my CAT III landings!

Didn’t you just hate it when the hubby went TDY to Cubi Point? I’m sure he stayed on base though and never went in to Olongapo. Test him by asking him what he knows about LBFM’s and see if he gets a little twinkle in his eye:"

My head hurts… what a bunch of pychobabble. And he thinks I have alot of free time…

My husband is not in the military, nor did he ever serve in the armed forces, so your suggestion to quiz him about activities on TDY is meaningless.

Just a suggestion and I mean this sincerely, you should privatize your FB page, because your girlfriend’s pic is open to public viewing.

[QUOTE=eagle74;6515912]
It seems like I really have you in a quandry, eh 2bayboys? Since this is a public forum, and you don’t have the monopoly on the site, I’m free to post my opinion as well. If you go back to the beginning of this post, I posted the photos after the SIL stated the animals were abused. Then after the “shock and awe” died down, it was stated that the horses looked fine. Maybe from the photos I posted? If so, then I feel like I did something in regards to the truth not spread conjecture.

Funny, I never supplied any information on myself until I was accused of being Jill, her husband, yada yada so I posted my phone number, big deal. Then some Rona Barrett decides it’s important to be Dick Tracy and post my info based on looking up my profile and cross referencing it with my facebook. Daventry obviously looked at my facebook as she questioned me on specific photos. Now someone has gone so far as to check the FAA to see who I am! Really?

“Since you’ve provided so much information about yourself (officer, pilot, farmer, coach”

Same info you provided as well 2bayboys! Hunt away, you’ve obviously confused me with someone who gives a sh*t!

“You obviously are in communication with JB, since you made comments about the SIL’s financial interest in removing the parents from the home”

Wrong again, I “speculated” in regards to the SIL’s financial interest, nothing more and definitely not in communication with Jill. Since my number is up on this Board, I’m sure one of the resourceful women can delve into my phone records to try and disprove this as well!

“poor spelling” OOOPs, please get out your red pencil and highlight so as to discredit me. Next you’ll be critiquing my CAT III landings!

Didn’t you just hate it when the hubby went TDY to Cubi Point? I’m sure he stayed on base though and never went in to Olongapo. Test him by asking him what he knows about LBFM’s and see if he gets a little twinkle in his eye:;););)[/QUOTE]

Wrong again, I “speculated” in regards to the SIL’s financial interest, nothing more and definitely not in communication with Jill. Since my number is up on this Board, I’m sure one of the resourceful women can delve into my phone records to try and disprove this as well!

Wait…I thought speculations were not allowed, at least according to Eagle. Remember, fact only. Yea right.

Why bother quoting? Either people can read it themselves or the ones that have him on ignore do NOT need your quotes!! Can you ever learn?

Originally posted by falseimpression:
“Why bother quoting? Either people can read it themselves or the ones that have him on ignore do NOT need your quotes!! Can you ever learn?”

I just had to…:lol: And no, appearently I never learn. Sorry.

There are people who are victims, and people who are trying to help. Why keep derailing this? Attention mongers and the people who feed them are cute and clever only in their own imaginations :wink:

We removed some further posts re: “trolling” etc. to keep the thread on track, per our earlier post.

Mod 1

I emailed the link to this thread to the State Veterinarian of California. I implored her to look into this situation with respect to the fact that one stallion is EVA positive and the conditions in the “lab” are horrendous. For those of you who have business issues with GFF - I would encourage you to do the same and also speak to your Veterinarians to see if they will also ask for an inquiry as this does involve EVA.

I would also ask that the tennis match of words please STOP. Take if off line so legitimate information can be shared about this problem.

[QUOTE=Kaluna;6515389]
People can’t be sued for relaying their experiences or for commenting on actual pictures. People can’t be sued for talking about a stallion’s eligibility, the dirtiness of a lab, the fact that mares didn’t take, facts and stories about lack of payment and bad business practices, pictures and stories about dead animals, etc., when they are paying someone or thinking about paying someone for an advertised service or a sale or if the business is misrepresenting itsself or its products. Those are facts and experiences and reactions. ANYONE can complain about ANY documented bad business. There’s lots of documentation that this is a business with questionable practices based on the standard for the industry and for any business, and seriously dissatisfied customers. There’s no legal case here.[/QUOTE]

People can sue anyone for any reason so the above is untrue. Whether those people win their lawsuit for the above is obviously a different story as is whether or not the plaintiff gets arrested for outstanding warrants when she walks into the courthouse.

Again, I don’t understand why you all keep engaging eagle. Just ignore him, as he has absolutely nothing useful or relevant to add to th discussion at this point. He’s just poking you all with sticks and getting a reaction. Ignore him, shut him out, don’t quote him, don’t engage, and I guarantee he will go away. It really doesn’t matter who he is or what his motivation is at this point.

I also hope that the thread can stay focused as well. The offshoots have been mildly amusing, but it does make it onerous for anyone new to the topic to wade through. And I do think it is important that a lot of the info get out and not be lost in the giggles and sniping.

[QUOTE=Edgar;6515723]

As for her other Hanoverian stallions that were licensed, their dues were not paid so they are not currently activated with the AHS. Before they can be activated there is a debt to be paid to the AHS due to a bad check written by JB for mares inspected, that would need to be paid first.[/QUOTE]

Edgar, why wasn’t the bad check turned over to the District Attorney in her county? They tend to pursue those things pretty aggressively and I believe in California, with their three strikes law, it can be counted against her criminally, as well, no?