Ah, yes. Nick Peronace. Search out Nick Peronace threads for a really good example of how not to brag about your shoveling skills in defence of your dark arts. What a waste of a human. And what a wonderful example of how BS can be revealed here on coth. I would hazard a guess that Coth professionals do not take BS lightly. BS threatens our jobs, our businesses, our livelihoods, and reputations. When someone claims things as fact that we know arent true, we take notice. It makes our jobs harder when the public think incorrectly based on shysters and people who talk out of the corner of their mouth. Honesty and humillity is the currency which good horse people have to back up their reputation. It makes everyones’ life harder when people try to claim superlatives they haven’t earned.
HOW DARE YOU post a photo of me without my permission? (I apologize for my pearls being a little tangled – I had just finished clutching them.)
“Losers in bathrobes” was Nick’s description of COTH, either on his blog or his FB page.
Lol barium!
Yeah I knew about the boring dots I just had never knew studs were actually were left in like that
No. Nothing about that horse is a hunter.
And I would not buy a neck like that. I have upheaded horses (naturally - saddlebreds) and mine are sporthorses precisely because they do NOT have a neck like that.
The horses shown do look like they’d make lovely driving candidates.
I think one can choose to react professionally, provide the correct information, and then walk away. Or one can choose to respond in a way that makes them appear immature, combative, untrustworthy, and difficult to deal with, which only serves to feed the drama and harm their own reputation.
Oh so he’s following the Mb threads? Now that’s funny.
Wow. Well having looked at that video, I have to say, I would not continue with that horse. The long gaskins and trailing hocks would eliminate this horse for jumper, eventing or dressage. The head set tie in would not be appropriate for hunters. I wouldn’t want the way the neck ties in to the shoulders for dressage. This horse wouldn’t reach under or use its back naturally for me, and that upright shoulder would eliminate it from my consideration on its own. But hopefully they can be a great horse for someone else!
No, the phrase originated in NP’s threads. He isn’t following the MB threads in any manner, as far as anyone can see.
Oh the bathrobes started there? I didn’t realize that.
Ah yes, it was NP with the whole bathrobes thing. How could I forget 
The ads for the horses in this thread read rather amateur written. I’m not going to pick on the horses themselves, but as constructive criticism, I would recommend some better ads. This can be directed toward many sellers though! Mostly just better pictures, video, and descriptions. I know people want to market their horses and generate excitement, but if it’s too much it just screams over zealous false claims and being clueless, but I mean, if it works, then what do I know LOL I’ve always ended up selling my horses by word of mouth.
About the ads, I would think if selling to anyone familiar with horse-buying a young horse is always just a promise and dream and never a guarantee.
I am more curious as to whether K intends to keep any fillies-that is how so many small breeders get “there”- constantly improving their mare base generation to generation. She has been using the good prepotent stallions to have a shot at doing that. I do not know enough about DHH to know if that base is not the way to go-however, as it was pointed out historically DHHs are in many lines (a way back) but more than one experienced breeder has double thumbs down (and mocked) starting with a thoroughbred mare which many of us have done. 
I remember in the book “All the Pretty Horses” by cormac mccarthy, when the boy goes to see the stallion the rancher has (a Three Bars horse) the ranches asks him what weight he would give the mare, and the boy responds that he would almost give more weight to the mare than the stallion, and that’s the answer the rancher wanted to hear, and so hires him.
Having fabulous semen doesn’t to me equal a breeding program. Its the mares you have that produce the get which you then take on to win in the disciplines you want to breed for, and when you can get repeated results from these mares, even with different studs, you have a breeding program worth advertising.
She actually swaps the hind for about two strides, then swaps back to a cross fire, bunny hopping the whole way.
Without reaching under, that’s what concerned. me.
This is what I saw too.
Certainly not a video that sells this poor horse.
“The one time she was jumped”
Photos show two distinctly separate instances of free jumping.
I mean, come on. I don’t care how many times you free jumped her, but to blatantly lie is unnecessary.
The third person to say WOW this is not in any way necessary. Just as bad as calling someone’s trainer. Be better
I keep thinking about the professionalism I saw on a thread long long years ago, on the QH section group. They were talking about, (I"m not a QH person, so my memory is not techinical) if I remember, a certain line of quarter horses and a ranch/breeder that had them. The thread went back and forth about the merits of certain lines of horses, and eventually, the very famous ranch in Texas who bred these horses for generations actually came onto the conversation. Their manner really impressed me. They talked about their “competitor” and their horses, and what the competitor’s horses can do, and how the competitor’s breeding program supported what they wanted to accomplish. They named horses, and how the horses were to compete against (these were reiners) and what impressive competitors not only the horses, but riders were to show against. They didn’t elaborate their own worthiness, they compared and contrasted what they wanted to do with their breeding program vs. their competitors’ breeding programs, and how they each were after slightly different things, and how well their competitor was acomplishing their goals according to their busines model. They then talked about their own horses, and the long line of horses which brought todays’ horses about, talked about what the progenitors were bred for and how they contributed to today’s successes.
They were humble, didn’t brag, talked about their hope for the future, and you knew that they were turning out champions that honored their sires and dams. The result of their posts was the biggest ad campaign you could ask for without breathing a word of superlatives and honorifics about themselves. In fact, verbaitim, it looked like they came on to bolster their competition, so people didn’t have a bad thing to say about either “side”. It was impressive, and the humility all by its self was something that made you want to go sign a check.
Far cry from what we have seen on this thread.
Why would anyone care enough to do that? And what would be the point?
