Dutch harness horse drama. Update major mare/ foal neglect Nov 2023 post 1782 Update Kate Shearer responds post 1930 Nov 25/23

You would need a subpoena to even start the process and they might argue confidentiality of source is protected. In general professional news media do not make blatant errors of this kind out of nowhere but are often guilty of not fact checking especially when it’s tangential to the main story.

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Well one thought is that the writer would want to fix the mistakes that certain people are claiming they (the writer) made about the facts.

The topic is not that a braider makes more money as a braider than they do as a practicing equine lawyer, but that a braider makes more money than they assume they would make being a lawyer, but they are not a lawyer.

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Hahaha oh my goodness!! Thankfully, I never had to see this one and I hadn’t been born yet! The dog was quite the character, for sure.

May be something to do with the funky right fore hoof - static side view pic shows it to be very upright, pastern broken forwards, looks to be clubbed. Picture from the front shows hoofcare to be overdue / minimal with splitting and breakage so unlikely to be being addressed as it should

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Oh lord, are we going from a DHH thread to a barefoot or die thread?

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What else could we hit? Bridleless…RK…I’m sure we could come up with some more. :popcorn:

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Er, no. Merely making an observation.
But carry on with the disparaging remarks and we sure can :roll_eyes:

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You don’t need a subpoena to ask a journalist if what he wrote in an article under his own byline is in fact accurate, according to his source. I mean it’s not like his interviewee, Shearer, was divulging state secrets. She was talking about herself!

I looked up the article and it contains this statement:
“Shearer, who lives in Scottsdale, Arizona, is a lawyer and practices equine law. It can be difficult to have a normal job during law school, so she kept braiding at shows and helped work her way through law school at Arizona State University. It remains lucrative work for her.”

Since this reporter is a 20-year veteran with Tulsa World and has an account at Muck Rack, which is a site for journalists to catalogue and showcase their work, one would presume he would want his stories to be accurate.

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LOL not sure how you got all the way there from that one comment, but while we are at it we should also discuss bitless, treeless, and the miracle cure that is turmeric (more of a UK based forum joke).

Also, every horse has ulcers and no ones saddle fits. So there!

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Yes, back in 2017 I think so well pre-dating MB. I’m sure it was in one of his blog posts.

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Well it will be interesting to see what the DHH mares produce with the well-known pre-potent jumper stallions-that will start to give her an idea of what might work in her program if she is committed to her DHH mares.

Considering already produced reserve champion best young jumper of the Kwpn keuring and won the futurist this year….yes 2022 was only my third year breeding so I’m excited for the coming years and heck it could be a huge failure but so far I would say for the fledgling program I’m doing pretty good

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Maybe some of those horses would excel at Western dressage? That is, if they have enough turn out and have been tested for Lyme and scoped for hind gut ulcers.

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Yeah, who said anything about shoes? (Other than a discussion about winter shoes in cold climates.)

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/facepalm…

But yeah, trainwreck threads tend to have those on the bingo card…

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If you like what you get do not forget to look to the future and think about keeping a filly.:slight_smile:

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That is the plan!!! Highly considering keeping the for pleasure filly due in February. Since he is still at the top of rankings for Dam sires.

@Kasheare,

I’m happy that you’re happy with the results of your breeding program and that you’re finding buyers for your foals. That’s awesome.

But I am troubled by your emphasis on the results of the foal keurings and futurities. It’s great that you took your get to evaluated and are receiving feedback, but these are NOT performance results.

Would I rather buy a foal that did well at a keuring than one that didn’t? Sure. But it is absolutely, positively not any kind of guarantee of future performance.

You’re breeding performance horses, and none of them are performing in any discipline yet.

Ask the TB breeders the how price fetched at yearling sales correlates to earnings on the track, the hunter people how success on the line translates into success over fences later in life and ask the AQHA people how halter class or futurity wins translate into future performance.

So keep on with your breeding program but maybe stop blowing your own horn quite so hard until one of the babies has a performance resume.

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…reserve champion best young jumper of the Kwpn keuring

OK, I am confused. I thought the horse in question was a foal. If so, how could it have been considered “best young jumper”? Are the KWPN inspectors jumping foals these days at keurings? And did it outperform the older horses in the jumping chute? :thinking:

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It seems like at this point, posters are going out of their way to look up videos not posted here (please correct me if I am mistaken) and then critique… ad nauseum… for the sake of pointing out all the flaws.

At this point, I feel that if someone doesn’t like the cross- don’t buy it, don’t recomend it to your friends :wink: .

Like in the HB world, results of the “in hand” classes are not predictive of success in the hunters, but of a “type”, that due to (in HB world) due to conformation has a “statistically” good chance of success. Many horses who were the overall HB Champs at Devon or multiple high score winnters went on to do zip. Some went on to careers. The owners/breeders still brag about it. Some that flopped and never won a class have gone back to Devon and won the AOs.

I feel the same for the keuring. The ones that do well , based on gait and conformation, “predictive” of being able to go on to that arm of the discipline. The real wildcard in this discussion, as has been pointed out, the “f1” of this can be crap or nice- but that doesn’t mean any future breeding will be the same.

It seems that people are taking a little too much joy in pointing out flaws. I think it is beating a sock puppet at this point regarding interviews, board exams, flip flops etc. And for the love of all things- KS stop stoking the fire. I get the desire to defend yourself but it is dragging a lot of negativty you don’t need for your business up.

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