Dutch harness horse drama. Update major mare/ foal neglect Nov 2023 post 1782 Update Kate Shearer responds post 1930 Nov 25/23

It was a normal post. She asked you a very good question and had been discussing the topic with you for a bit.

Like I said before, know your audience. It is a skill that you seem to lack.

This is the post you were responding to.

If your footwear was not HIGHLY unprofessional it would not have ever come up. Horse board here, where things like that are discussed.

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As I stated earlier, I think it is a misnomer on KWPN’s part (although I doubt they are interested in changing how they describe it). I will also point out that the title in question falls under a category for Foals and Weanlings. It in no way means that any particular foal was “best young jumper” - just best in that specific category for FOALS/WEANLINGS.

I really have no problem with her breeding program, etc., and I already stated that it was a good achievement. But I do think it would be helpful to potential clients and more respectful to other KWPN breeders to use more precise and accurate descriptions such as “Reserve best foal/weanling in the jumper direction” instead of puffery such as “reserve best jumper.”

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At a keuring, a horse can earn “High score jumper”. Then if it is in the Top Tens, it can be called “Reserve Champion Jumper Foal/Weanling”. There’s not technically a “best young jumper” nationally as the foals/weanlings, yearlings and two year olds are split in the top tens. But there is an overall award for the individual keuring site. As stated though it’s called high score jumper.

I hope that helps clarify things!

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@Kasheare, the only thing I’m going to say about your breeding program and your braiding is you seem to be putting some nice foals on the ground that will be very suitable for a specific market, and your braiding is gorgeous. That’s not the issue. It’s your attitude that needs a reset if you want to survive professionally.

Why are some athletes universally “hated”? It’s not their athletic skills that makes them a problem. It’s the ones who are vain, thin-skinned, boastful, “too big for their britches”. Extra points for being the type that clap back at fans. Even more extra points if when clapping back, they seem to be stretching the truth or exaggerating an accomplishment. Extra, extra, extra points if they are pretty new to the game and are swaggering around as if they are already hall of famers who have little to learn from those around them. That’s blood in the water on social media. Social media is a hellscape, and people who need to use it in their professional lives are prudent to navigate it like a minefield that can destroy a good reputation in a matter of days.

Caring about “who actually reads COTH” is missing the point entirely — you need to care about who uses Google. I guarantee that’s pretty much every person who is a potential client. That’s why I posted the screenshot above. I visit COTH, so not surprising that the algorithm put it at the top of my search. Because I happened to be reading this thread beside my son who never visits COTH, I asked him to do the same search. This train wreck was at the top of his search as well. What do you think happens when your name comes up to someone who might be in the market for your young stock? They’ll Google you and immediately see this sh*tshow. That alone will stop a bunch of people in their tracks. If they click on it and scroll through, I bet the majority won’t be focused on the portion of your posts that are informative and helpful. My first thought would be, “if anything goes wrong with this sale, if I have any dispute with this breeder, they won’t hesitate to trash me on SM. Hard pass.”

In my professional life, there are lots of reviews of me online. I’m proud of the fact that the vast majority are very positive, but of course, there are a few that are negative. Some of those are cruel, unwarranted, and factually incorrect. I think anyone looking at the reviews would come away with the impression that I’m very good at my job. That would change in an instant if I got in the mud with my critics and responded “oh yeah? Do you realize I’ve won this and that award, I had the highest blah blah blah… so suck on THAT!!” Now, the impression of me is “she’s batsh*t crazy”. I agree that some of the posts here are unfair and/or silly criticisms of your program. But you don’t have to rise to the bait, even if your justifiable pride in your program is stung. That only hurts you.

What’s the old expression— it takes a lifetime to build a good reputation, and a second to destroy it. Please stop hurting yourself.

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Unique visits?

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@fargaloo1,

Thank you for the excellent, sympathetic, insightful analysis.

I wish I could like your post more than once.

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I’m shocked that people think it’s ok to assault someone over some words.

Calling someone names isn’t ok, but violence is never the answer. Two very different things.

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Just to make a point there are international followers here. Besides Canada, UK and Australia we also have followers from New Zealand, Germany and Latvia. There was a long and interesting thread from someone called I believe it was Anna, who by accident got into the horse world and came here often for advice. I really enjoyed that thread and was disappointed when it disappeared. She had made friends here and I have often wondered what happened to her.

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Violence is never the answer and someone foolish enough to dump a beer on someone should suffer the consequences, but you have to wonder how a completely innocent person just sitting quietly minding their own business gets involved in that type of situation. Or in mulitple types of situations.

The discussions regarding breeding and braiding are fascinating, and would be the end of it, but some are quick to lash out even when not attacked. Is there some piling on? Yes. But the way you react or don’t react dictate how that ends up and when you are polite and professional or just plain ignore people get bored and go away and nobody gets a beer dumped on them.

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And if I’d been involved in this altercation, whether I was at fault, the other person was at fault, or something in between AND I had a professional reputation to uphold, the absolute last thing I’d be doing is “getting into it” on SM, even on an unrelated topic, for fear of opening a door that someone could drag this incident in and link it to my professional name forever. That’s the time to keep your head down and keep your nose so clean it squeaks.

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I forgot the name, but we have a member in South Africa as well.

Oh, and Mexico, Haiti, Argentina.

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The “bows” are more of a main ring thing in Arabians and look tacky, in my opinion. I’m a bit more of a traditionalist.

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Is this a matter of semantics? Was it tramp, ho, floozy? If this case is not settled, don’t post it here (you can DM me though :slight_smile: )

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I’m not into victim blaming.

I partied a lot in my youth, and I can assure you that people get drinks poured on them, sucker punched, hit with bottles etc over NOTHING all the time. One of my good friends was walking out of a bar and was hit with a beer bottle for no good reason and caused him serious brain injury and he was never the same. Now suffers from mental health issues and addiction.

She has said it’s in the courts so I’ll wait for the actual facts before I attack her over some rumors.

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Good to know.

sorry-lack of computer skills…

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I know that feeling.
Thanks for clarifying.

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Maybe I’m dense, but I don’t remember anyone calling your braiding skills into question. Your braids are lovely.

Bury your shovel please.

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Out of curiosity, what is your favorite forum? You can PM me if you’d prefer.

I tried other forums but always come back to COTH. I did really enjoy my foray into a parrot forum, back before I had 6 cats and had delusions of grandeur on owning a conure… Lots of very interesting people there, a huge depth of knowledge and just like COTH, a lot of Take-No-S&%T-Grannies to chase off the riff-raff.

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Haha maybe you didn’t read above where it was asked lol

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