Embark vs Wisdom Panel? And puppy pics

I tought smooth collie too! Gorgeous dog :slight_smile:

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I see the color but not the ears of face, the pup in question is too, um fleshy and the bridge isn’t right for a collie, or the paws.

Your dog is very nice, did I miss where you said the breeding?

I’m sorry I know I live in a cave, what is the name of the movie with Keanu and the two dogs please.

I don’t think any of us are suggesting that this is a purebred collie, just that there may be some collie in there.

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John Wick - Chapter 3

I don’t actually watch John Wick movies usually (I don’t watch violent movies… or horror… or pretty much anything but romcoms LOL) but I did watch this one! I’m one step removed from living under a rock in this case.

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He’s a whole potpourri of stuff.

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Mine ears hath gone floppeth.

I’m still planning to do the Embark, just haven’t gotten around to actually ordering it yet :joy:

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I don’t think this is actually in the mix, but Panda German shepherd would be a pretty unusual component:

https://vgl.ucdavis.edu/test/panda-gs

I’m thinking something with a short, smooth coat and a shorter body length.

Beagle/Jack (according to the shelter) It fits his personality. He’s very much about the nose all the time – but he’s a bit more drivey than the typical beagle. He’s a hoot and a half! Haven’t done any DNA testing on him – I believe the description!

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my guess is Malinois x Collie.

God help her if its a Mal cross :crocodile:

Another vote for Embark, and another vote for DNA testing anything you’re not sure the parentage of. You could end up like me and just about pass out when you get the results for your 40lb county humane society “Cattle Dog mix” adoptee.

I spoke to an Embark geneticist about the results because I was sure there was a mistake, and there wasn’t. When dogs have so many breeds up close, they can sort of phenotypically revert back to looking like the platonic dog (think Carolina Dog, Dingo, etc) like she did, which muddies the breed-specific traits.

She’s the best dog I’ve ever had actually, best farm dog, best snuggler, and yes she’s legal to own here, but she’s also been the most challenging dog I’ve ever owned, and the results have helped me take her training and containment extremely seriously.

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Wow, that is interesting.
How far back or up close is the wolf parent?
Can you elaborate how she is
Challenging?
Beautiful mix of strong breeds.

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Those are some strong and higher energy breeds. Part wolf is kinda cool and terrifying at the same time.

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WOLF, WOW! I bet that was a surprise! :hushed:

Those other breeds are an interesting choice to cross with wolf, too. Gotta wonder what the thought process behind the original wolf cross parent was!

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The full wolf relative was at the great-grandparent generation. Challenging - most athletic and intelligent dog I’ve ever owned. When I lived in town, she jumped my 6 foot privacy fence easily, so I added a 2 foot extension, which she learned to climb, so I changed the extension to where it curved inwards toward the yard. After I put that up, she sat there and studied it, head cocked, for about 5 minutes, then experimented for about 20 minutes before she gave up and never tried again. She has a 4 foot standing vertical jump and moves like a cat, walks along the ledge of the indoor arena kickwall like it’s nothing and twists to land on her feet if she falls off.

She is reactive and very slow to trust, but once she fully trusts a person or dog (which takes 6+ months or more) you can do anything to her. We have special protocols for introducing new dogs to her that my trainers helped me develop (takes hours over multiple weeks, but it works, although in the meantime there are lots of Cujo noises), for going to the vet (we wait in the parking lot until they have a room ready, then go in a side door) and for meeting new people (muzzle. Always. She has a humane basket muzzle she’s very well acclimated to).

She’s insanely obedient with no prey drive and is best friends with the barn cat! She and I are joined at the brain. I can call her off a herd of running deer across a hayfield, and she refuses to let me out of her sight when off-leash (which I can do safely at my property only). We did an agility class (with a lot of safety protocols in place by the trainers) and she absolutely loved it.

Like I said - best dog I’ve ever owned, but to get there, it required a lot of training and discipline on my part to give her the structure she desperately needed and didn’t get before me (which landed her in 3 shelters and 2 homes before the age of 1).

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Yeah, to be honest, it pisses me off that she exists even though she’s my heart dog. You can’t tell me with that breed list that someone wasn’t intentionally trying to breed “bada** dogs”. I’m sure when she came out looking like a stuffed animal, she was dumped immediately. She’s very lucky to have ended up with me (I have a long history of working with stubborn northern breeds), because the normal pet world doesn’t make sense to her on a number of levels.

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True

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I’m so glad she’s with an experienced person. It could have been bad for her and other people if not. She is adorable.

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