I was wondering if anyone knows the difference between the FF regular and double strength. I tried calling the company but it is closed for the week. I have a horse with horrible shelly, cracked feet. I wanted to put him on FF but would go with the double strength at first to help faster but i"m not sure if that’s the point of the double strength. Would anyone happen to know?
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As far as I know, it is just a more concentrated form so you feed half as much. Someone may have more incite but that is how the girl at Dover explained it, I don’t know how much the Dover girl knows about it though! 
Feed pure biotin instead.
It’s supposed to be the same thing, just double strength, but my horses can taste a difference and I can smell it though I’m not sure what exactly that difference is.
My farrier recently commented on how awesome my horses feet are looking these days. He said, “whatever you’re doing, keep doing it.” I chuckled and replied, “awesome, I stopped buying/feeding supplements and I quit feeding fancy expensive grain.”
Sometimes we think we’re doing the best we can by feeding our horses the most expensive, designer stuff we can find, and yet I’ve found time and time again that less is more
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Sometimes we think we’re doing the best we can by feeding our horses the most expensive, designer stuff we can find, and yet I’ve found time and time again that less is more :)[/QUOTE]
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I used to ride a horse for a lady who fed at LEAST 20 supplements. Freakin’ insane.
Four white stockings and four shelly feet. Farrier looked at new horse and then my trainer and raised his eyebrows. When you first start your horse on this supplement, you feed at double the maintenance dose - hence the double strength formula. Then 3 months later (I think), you ratchet dose down by half to feed at the maintenance level. It did great things for my horse’s hooves.
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This may or may not be a helpful suggestion, but I don’t know anyone who’s had any significant luck with FF (myself included). Rather expensive product without the proven results to back it up was not enough to encourage me to keep buying it.
My guys have been on regular biotin and flax seed for a couple years now, and the results are ten-fold better than they were with FF. Their feet gleam almost as much as their coats do :lol:. Just my personal experience.
I think, but am not 100% sure, that the double strength came out so Smart Pak didn’t have to use so many wells when they started to offer Farrier’s Formula. It’s just an extra concentrated form of FF.
Feed pure biotin instead.
Where is it sold like this?
I’ve always noticed my finger nails get really strong when I eat more jello. What’s in Jello?
Dead cows. I won’t feed gellatin to my horse altho it probably is much better for hoof growth. I used to use it when I had very long dagger natural nails as a teenager. My vet says gellatin is fine for horses. I just don’t want to feed him dead cows.
I used the double strength farriers’ formula, but am now going to start making my own hoof mixture. Don’t forget the methi- whatever…my farrier says it is necessary too.
DAC.com is a good company with good products, so I’m going to see if I can buy the hoof ingredients from them and mix my own hoof formula.
I know, I know, it’s been debunked, blah blah blah randomCOTHnoise blah blah blah… But it worked like a CHARM on my late TB. It was the difference between him keeping shoes on and not being able to. This was back when I lived where a set of fronts was $250 plus the import cost from Canada, so it made a big difference to my budget!
I’d be wary of the double-strength, simply b/c there was something in the regular version my horse did not like and after about a year or so he’d refuse to eat it. I’d switch to something else for a year or so, which would NOT work (later on I just gave up and fed no supplements at all), and his feet would slowly degenerate, so then I’d switch back… and so on. (Why yes, as a matter of fact he WAS a maintenance nightmare! :))
Combination of FF and topical Keratex Hoof Hardener was the only thing that consistently worked.
I had heard about Biotin but not sure where to get it. Also was told that powdered milk can be used or unflavored geletin. These are old time farriers suggestions but I’m just not sure I’m comfortable using them, besides I don’t know where to get Biotin from. We had used FF before but stopped because the horse isn’t on a regular riding schedule. Wish I never stopped because the hooves have suffered and now we have to start all over again. FF did work which is great but I would love to find something cheaper.
http://www.doversaddlery.com/biotin-plus-hoof-supplement/p/X1-22351/cn/1799/
I would feed this. 1 scoop, twice a day to achieve the 100mg dose!
Biotin is the main ingredient in FF and most other hoof supplements. Paired with flax like cataluna said, you have a good coat/hoof supplement.
I know that there’s pure biotin (it’s a powder) sold at our co-op… you could look for it at your feed store and they probably have it/can order it for you.
Jello is made of gelatin. It’s not made with cow feet anymore… but I still hate the stuff!!
I just ordered this for my horse - I liked the ingredients and the cost. And it will be part of my Smartpak which is handy. Has great reviews!
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I just ordered this for my horse - I liked the ingredients and the cost. And it will be part of my Smartpak which is handy. Has great reviews!
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I don’t see how that can provide the “recommended” amount of flax (1 cup per day). 120cc is definitely not a cup, especially when it’s not all flax.
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I don’t see how that can provide the “recommended” amount of flax (1 cup per day). 120cc is definitely not a cup, especially when it’s not all flax.[/QUOTE]
Should have clarified that I didn’t buy it for the flax really. I wanted that amount of biotin, without a ton of other minerals since he is already getting a different supplement for that. He gets flax in his Legends Omega Plus fat feed. I had a hard time finding a hoof supplement that was mostly biotin without lots of other “stuff”. This one fit the bill closely enough and was one of the cheapest, and had great reviews to boot.
There are lots of studies that show you need to supplement with both biotin and
methionine. Look for a true study, not opinions on a forum.
I’ve used Farrier’s Formula DS an was very happy with it.
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Jello is made from gelatin. Gelatin comes from cow and pig bones, skins, tendons and hooves. If you want non animal gelatin, it needs to be vegan or parve.
From the Gelatin Manufacturers Institute
