Favorite Classical Trainer Nick Peronace VS USDF Judging Standards

He is also not important. You can find plenty like this in the comments section under any youtube video.

Holy Moly!
What a completely ignorant and stupid statement!

ETA: as if all hays and grains are created equally and this [quote below] says anything about her nutritional needs being met. My Yo got a whole 60# bale of hay a day when he was only doing TL/1st work… and of course then there’s the question of Carpathia being IR or having ulcers…

ā€˜She gets hours of grass turnout, 8 flakes of hay, 8lbs of grain each day, with 4lbs of it rice bran.’

And even if you don’t know a thing about horses, or TBs, as a human being, you must understand food is fuel.
My son is running XC this fall again… and as a teen the amount of food he is consuming in order to maintain competitive-ness is… amazing to me.
To ignore his nutritional needs, as NP clearly ignores Carpathias, while expecting a quality performance would be neglectful.

If he wants to understand better google ā€˜Hilda Gurney, Keen’ and look at those images… and when did Keen compete? WAY before we had the nutritional advances we now have in Equine feeds and understanding ulcers and other digestive issues that effect overall health.

What a sad, sad thing, to treat your partner this way…

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The term ā€œfake news,ā€ no matter how badly it’s mis-applied, does seem to appeal to a certain demographic.

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Mind = Blown

There you have it folks, in his own words. What other proof do you need that some people just live in a completely alternate version of reality? Incredible. Literally. I’m incredulous.

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I thought he owned Carpathia and is listed as owner st the show he attended.

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That little political statement he threw in is telling. This mindset of his is not unique. Unfortunately.

Skinny tb’s. Grrr… A former trainer I worked with would get in a thin tb and within two months that horse was in good shape. The proper food, free exercise, and the right work.

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Agreed, especially since he’s going to go whine to USEF himself. That should entertain them.

Of course when he receives his notice that they find his complaints about the judging to be baseless, he’ll just accuse them of being ā€œinā€ on the fix, no doubt because us COTH ā€œhatersā€ contacted USEF and forced them to read an online discussion forum.

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Crying fake news does not stop you having to evacuate from Florida, but doing fake dressage will ALWAYS get you a pitiful score.

I think you can only whine at USEF if you are a member.

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It’s my understanding that if a person leases a horse, they can be listed as the owner. Or they can outright own the horse. In either scenario, one can show as an AA (rider (leasor) generally pays as opposed to being paid). However, if another person is listed as the owner, the assumption would be that the one riding is being paid to train the horse and then they would be considered a professional. Unless it is shown that no money changes hands (owner to rider) and the person riding is training the horse out of the goodness of their heart or they just want the ride on that particular horse.

Because I am procrastinating this morning…

'I never cared for the USDF medal program because frankly it just doesn’t interest me. Some people have the opinion that such medals add credibility to a trainer. I can see their point of view, but I also think competing at a higher level also adds credibility. ’

Erm,…
the medal process is one that signifies proficiency at each level. That is how you gain credibility… not by simply saying you ride at an upper level, but earning medals, by scoring consistent high scores at each level.
THAT’s credibility.
Measureable, identifiable, quantifiable achievement.

ā€˜Posting video and pictures adds credibility also. But if your a superficial snob who only cares about medals and scores, and less what your eyes tell you, then I’m not the trainer for you. Again, it makes no difference to me. I have nothing to prove to anyone.’

My eyes are decent, I’ve been told that by several UL riders I’ve worked with.
But to really establish achievement I would prefer the eyes of those who know more than me. :wink:

It would be like getting a high score for a test I rode, from a friend who has never ridden an actual Dressage test, doesn’t take Dressage lessons and who’s riding in general is suspect at best… simply because I told them what I can do, and what I should score. Talk about a hollow achievement!

Those scores [for Medals] are from the eyes of people who have achieved a proficiency of understanding that very few of us competing or simply riding have.
I don’t want my ol’ TL eyes to decide… I want info from those who know and do better and have proven to do so by achieving scores at each level to earn the medals that signify that achievement.

However, what this demonstrates is that he clearly doesn’t understand the program that he rails against.
I understand being anti-something. But it helps to first understand that something so you truly are against it.

I would ask him, 'How do you get those medals? How are they awarded, ie ā€˜for what’?"
As I am not sure he understands the process or achievements those medals signify enough to argue against it…

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Nick wrote: ā€œI honestly have no idea who the judge was. I know they have a history in dressage and also driving. Who they are really isn’t of importance. It only matters to the hate campaign who tries to discredit any accomplishment I achieve.I scored a 75% and they’re hateful little minds exploded! They had better get used to it because I’m not going anywhere.ā€

Well, the judge’s name is right on the test which he has always been careful to hide. Also, Nick was not the only rider/spectator/boarder at that little fun kids schooling show. :D:D:D

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I know…so much for truth on his Blog. It is his warped version of truth. I just wait for him to show again and anticipate similar scores. Taking one lesson and another in November does not make one an FEI rider but carry on Nick to the top.

I had a little laugh at his version of the dressage pyramid.

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For the life of me, I cannot understand why you continue to lie, Nick. We all know that your old barn manager judged your ā€œfreestyleā€. She never had any dressage experience before you came into the barn. Tell me again how she’s credible? That’s the same test where the years were crossed out and rewritten in sharpie, was it not?

Furthermore, please stop perpetuating this myth about the ā€œtypical skinny thoroughbredā€. There is a clear difference between racing fit and poor nutrition thin. If you can’t understand the difference, that’s on you. I’ll give you one guess which category Carpathia falls into. Ever heard of ulcers? Yeah, those are a thing too.

There is no ā€œhate campaignā€. If you didn’t perpetuate yourself to be more of a dressage person than you are in reality, none of this would exist. It is your clear lack of understanding and continual self aggrandizing behavior that got you here. It would be one thing if you happily rode and worked your way up the levels like the rest of us, but you portray yourself as a dressage guru and prodigy. (Hello, ā€œThe Maestroā€ and ā€œMasterā€ from previous threads.)

Lastly, The Chronicle has absobloodylutely nothing to do with these forums. They host them. It is other people who comment and post on here, not The Chronicle itself. It has never run a publication about you (why would they? That would be more up Rate My Horse Pro’s alley) and probably never will. There is absolutely no reason for them to come out and interview you. If you can’t understand that, then we can’t help you.

PS- Even when you create a profile here for the forums, you have to acknowledge a disclaimer that the Chronicle isn’t reponsible for the comments therein. Here it is verbatim: Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

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I’m pretty sure it’s inverted. :yes::lol:

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I still wonder why he fights to prove all his delusions to us so badly. Like, seriously dude, ignore us, go ride. In reality nobody here would give a crap about what he say or does but he seems to want to be famous for all the wrong reasons by being so public with his lies and harassment.

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I believe his ex-barn manager, the one who put on the therapeutic in-school show where he competed against grade school kids, does a bit of driving as per her Facebook barn page. I believe she also owns a dressage saddle and has been ā€œhelpedā€ by him in the past. If she was the one who ā€œjudgedā€ his 4L Freestyle, I wonder how she feels about having enabled him like this? And what does this say about her character?

Maybe he’s never heard of dewormer.

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Or possibly perverted!

Love this conundrum

Q: Where are the ā€œgood photosā€ you claim exist from that competition on June 4th?

A: I made them public right on my Facebook page. You can find them under the heading ā€œFake News Cothā€.

only, it’s no longer available, a little investigation finds the answer

Nick Peronace The link isn’t going to work anymore I had to delete it. The hateful fake news Chronicle members contacted the photographer of these pictures. The photographer complained to my blog host and so had them removed. I didnt delete them because the photographer never asked my permission to post them on their webpage so I just figured fair was fair. So now I’m going to complain to their web host about my picture on their website (see how ridiculous and childish this is getting).

The bottom line is, is that they reported fake news about me and wouldn’t show good photographs. They want people to believe they’re not out there, when clearly they are. And then when they saw I called them out on their lies, they fought like hell so they can continue to only show people what they want you to see! It’s a hate campaign.

I’ve said this before and I will say it again, anything you read about me on the chronicle is an absolute lie. If you want the truth come directly to me.

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If you lease you must put down yourself as rider and the owner as the owner, it doesn’t necessarily indicate being a pro. I think Nick says that Carpathia is in professional training with him, but I swear I saw somewhere that he bought her. I’m not sure why it is an issue, many pros own their own horses, they don’t all rely on clients providing them horses to ride.

I think in his case, saying he owns her does not sound as special as saying he has a sponsor who trusted him with training their horse.

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WHOA! No need to drag her into Nick’s alternate reality… It was just a fun show and she likely obliged by ā€œjudgingā€ his fun little freestyle set to the tune of the national anthem. She did not know that he would be waving that ā€œfunā€ test around as a banner of his awesome horsemanshipness from then until the end of time. It says nothing about her character and such comments are out of line!!

Nick, your score means nothing if it was not judged by an accredited judge. Plus it could not be an actual 4L freestyle that included all the required elements if it only lasted the length of the usual ceremonial version of the SSB.

That second self interview just makes me sad. No one looking for a trainer would be convinced by reading that.

Nick, once again - the only hate campaign is the one you have created. You are the only one damaging your own reputation. You can ignore threads like this and do your thing and JUST RIDE - you say this is all BS anyway so what do you care? COTH the magazine has no influence or input in these forums -which you would know if you bothered to read/have a reality check. That would be like me claiming that the state of Pennsylvania is at fault for your false claims about corrupt dressage judges and your cyberbullying and must answer for everything you say!

It would read like this: Disclaimer: The opinions expressed by Nick Peronace are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Conditioning… the TB mare I had the pleasure of schooling a couple of times a week this summer took at least 20 minutes to warm up - transitions, circles, serpentines… and a couple of canters on a long rein before she was relaxed, loosened up and ready to actually work. You could feel her start to follow through, use her top line, lift… and then she was ready for the day’s actual schooling. Yes, all horses are different but I hope your 20 min rides do not include warm up and cool down in that time frame.

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