Hi all. I was wondering if anyone had some good ideas on lighter TB stallions out there. I have an amazing Perch/TB mare who has the best attitude, jump, and work ethic. I’d like to breed her and get something a little lighter and improve the movement. Any ideas are welcome- I am new to this.
Unfortunately, the TB hunter stallion is a (sometimes all too literally!) dying breed. A Fine Romance is retired. That leaves Sea Accounts, Friend or Foe, Stravinsky, and Harvest Moon. I think Perfect Soul had new connections who were seeking sport horse mares (to the point of nominating him to the IHF) but he’s a bigger, coarser type. Aaron’s Gold is in Virginia but they don’t ship.
My Guaranteed Gold stallion is producing beautiful hunter types that win on the line and in the ring. He is a cremello - so will 100% produce a dilute colour (buckskin, palomino, smoky black, smoky brown) on your foal if that is of interest to you.
He (and his foals) can be seen at www.TrueColoursFarm.com and you can click on the Draft foals to see pictures of offspring out of mares similar to yours
Good luck in your search! 
I would suggest that before deciding on aTB stallion, see what his get are doing in the hunter ring.
I nominated Sea Accounts to IHF for a couple of years and no one nominated their foals, so I didn’t this year…just more money to spend. I suggest you check the IHF nominated sires list as (at least in the past) there have a couple of TBs nominated I had never heard of.
He does a few kids doing the hunters or at least who spent some time in the hunter ring quite successfully before moving on to eventing or the jumpers. And his half-brother, Adagio, by Apiro finished 3rd overall in East Coast IHF two years ago.
He has also been crossed with a number of drafts, draft crosses and RID/ISH mares with lovely results. One, who is a 1/4 Perch 3/4 TB just did a Training level CT in KY last weekend with his ammy owner who has done all his training herself and had a baby 6 months ago.
If you have any interest in him, message me either here or on on FB and I’m happy to send you pics/vids and refer you to some of the owners.
As for other TBs, there is also Noble Houston in CA, Navy Bird on the east coast somewhere (though I don’t know what he’s produced), Goldmaker (though the JC revoked his papers so if you’re looking for a JC foal, he won’t work), Innkeeper (I believe he’s still at VA Tech) and Jump Start Farm has a new TB stallion…don’t know anything about him.
Seems like I’m forgetting a few, but that’s a start for you anyway.
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I would suggest that before deciding on aTB stallion, see what his get are doing in the hunter ring.
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I agree, VB.
It is also a good idea to know how old the stallion’s offspring are, ie how many foal crops he has, to get a better understanding of how they are doing in the show ring.
If a stallion has crops who are 6- 14 years old, it would be reasonable to expect to see numerous verifiable show results of offspring, in whatever discipline.
On the other hand, if the stallion is young, and has only younger crops, you might not expect to see too many showing yet.
Cheryll Francella of The Windrush has a lovely TB stallion that throws hunter foals. They are shown on the line in HB and win. His name is Runnintothealter. Beautiful mover, great temperament and improves mares of all types. Pics of him are on FB. Lots of foals on the ground to see.
Any good minded, good conformation, good hunter style moving TB stallion can sire good hunter show horse babies!! He neither has to have been shown himself or have offspring showing!! A good horseman can look at a stallion and pick a good sire prospect. We are breeding an “unproven”/unshown, race bred TB stallion for hunter/sport horse foals and the buyers are loving them. You just need to watch the stallion or his produce to decide what will work for your mare. Every successful stallion/show horse had to start somewhere!! JMO!!
Sea Accounts is my go to guy and first pick hands down. You’ll get size, talent and athletic ability from him. I wish I had a mare to use on him. Maybe someday I will or can lease one. 
The thing with any race stallion is most of them won’t breed AI… Are lc only to tb mares, so you do need a tb aimed at the sport market for that reason.
The Jockey Club “should” form a Sport Horse registry off shoot!! They should, but won’t, but there is a need for an “Appendix TB” registration where horses are not eligible to race or breed racing foals, but ARE registered and can be bred for Sport/ AI. I’ll never see the day, but it should be done!! Maybe some kind soul will invent a new TB division!!
there is also Castle Cove in Virginia. I personally like Default, also in Virginia, but I think he has mostly produced foxhunters.
Where are you?
If you look around you could probably find a nice local TB stallion. In most areas of the country there will be some nice TBs standing at small farms for their own mares or local ship in’s that don’t get national advertising.
Castle Cove is deceased.
Narrow it down a bit - Any TB stallions that have sired 4’ hunters or International Derby horses.
Dinah - That’s not really a fair question because so much of producing a 4’ hunter or Derby horse is having the horse in the right hands to get there.
As a stallion owner who’s a nobody in the horse world, I speak from personal experience. Cyriz has produced about 6 (just counting the ones I bred, not outside mares) who I will believe to my dying day could be Upper level horses in hunters, jumpers or eventing. I have one right now who I think definitely could be a 4’ hunter or International Derby horse if I could get him in the right hands. It’s not my discipline and I don’t have the funds to put him with the right trainer, so he’s at a hunter barn with a friend for sale.
One of the 6, had a injury that we’re afraid ended her competition career so she’s in foal to Valentino Z. Two were bought by someone who became a dear friend and they were out doing stuff and quite well, then she passed away and the distant relatives who handled the estate swore they couldn’t find a will and cashed in. I’ve lost track of the two boys thanks to name changing. Another was well on her way to an UL eventing career when the 3* rider who owned her had a bad fall and sold her whole string of young horses to pay medical bills, now she’s doing BN (and not very well, that’s not what she wants to be doing).
Sorry, I’ll get off my soapbox. It’s just really frustrating sometimes!
But to answer your question, I don’t know of any TB stallion currently standing who has 4’ hunters or big Derby horses. There just aren’t that many of those horses out there.
If you know of some, please share the stallions names.
what about timely roberto? breed show success isn’t main ring success, but APHA results are certainly evidence of good qualities.
For older stallions, ie those with offspring over 7-8 yrs old, I think it might be reasonable to expect/look for horses who have sired successful 3’6" hunters, which includes AO (at least here in Canada).
Preliminary/Intermediate eventers and mid-level jumpers.
One could reasonably hope that there should be some from each foal crop, starting with the first foal crop.
When it comes to the upper levels (above this) I agree that it often is a question of who the horse ends up with. Sometimes a horse shows talent, but if he or she has a particularly rideable temperament, is sold to a child or AA rider. And competes in those divisions.
Nothing wrong with that, but again, though, I would want to see real, verifiable results. Names, divisions, results.
But if there are NO horses showing in the mid to upper levels, after XX of foal crops, in my opinion, I think that too raises some questions, and is one more thing to consider in making an informed choice.
Again, if the stallion is young, and has only young offspring, you are making a calculated judgement, based on what you see in terms of athleticism, pedigree, conformation, jumping ability, movement and temperament.
cyriz’s mom, I understand your frustration, this kind of thing has happened numerous times with AFR offspring. You get your hopes up with one with true brilliance and then ‘life happens’. 
Exactly Fred!
And for those saying just breed to a local race bred TB. Sorry, I have an issue with that…at least if you are hoping to produce something with talent and competitive in the showring. If you’re breeding for a pleasure horse, then sure go ahead, though in that case, I would recommend buying something already on the ground.
Yes, there are some local TBs who can produce nice sport horses, but unless they have sport horse offspring and especially if you’re an ammy breeding for yourself, I believe your chance of success diminish greatly. Just MHO, of course!
OP, I think I mentioned the Cybaby who is the same cross as the foal you’re looking to breed. He is gorgeous, athletic and has a super temperament. I am happy to put you in contact with his owner/breeders if you’re interested.
