Festival of Champions

Ahhhh! That explains it. I forgot the children’s tests are odd like that.

I agree that Peters tends to get his already PSG or higher.

But what about Charlotte and Carl? I thought they (mostly) got them young and developed them themselves.

But yeah, not a long list. And understandably so - if competing at the top is your profession, do you have time to gamble on developing a young horse that may ultimately top out at PSG or just not be competitive at GP? I don’t think I would.

We do?

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I know you know this; mean and average are not interchangeable.

The arithmetic mean is equal to the sum of all the values in the data set divided by the number of values in the data set…so yes, the mean is the average.

{ X1 + X2 + X3 +X4… + Xn } / n = average of X… eg, the mean value of the data set

Perhaps you are thinking of the term Median…which is different than then mean…which is different than the mode…which are all measures of the central tendency of data.

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Carl’s yard has young horse riders and working students who do a lot of the early riding. For example Lucy Scudamore.

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I agree. Steffen isn’t known for starting young horses, and owners have provided him with horses to ride. Steffen’s father bought Udon for him when the horse was three.

It may be news to some owners and riders, but to others it’s not.
Whether owners/riders choose to do it is up to them.

Name one Olympic rider that buys young (eg., unbroke, not sat upon) and takes them to GP.

Robert Dover had Jane Forbes Clark buying his horses…which dates me…and I don’t follow all the current gossip to know who’s buying what for whom, so please educate me. I would like to know who is actually training their own.

The people who buy young are those who can’t afford trained horses.

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With only 6 scores ot would be difficult to detect outliers using a box plot unless it was a very strong outlier.

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It appears to be news to everyone but you, who has invented this “guiding principle” out of thin air.

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You are correct! My mistake! Mea culpa.

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As mentioned above, Laura Graves bought Verdades as a foal and brought him along herself. But she is the only Olympian I can think of that has done it in recent memory. I am happy to be corrected if someone knows of others.

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This is true. Boxplots are best to reflect a population when you have ~20 data points or more.

Unfortunately we don’t have 20 judges to compare in this test…thus why I did the individual value plot, the ANOVA and the ANOM.

We work with the data we have.

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No problem…statistics…schmatistics…the way stats are usually taught are a cure for insomnia so I’m sure you are not alone.

It took a program on applied statistics that made me realize the power of some of this stuff.

I appreciate the power of it; applied mathematician here so I should have been more careful before posting!

Wasn’t it Mark Twain that said there are statistics, damn statistics and lies?

I remember reading somewhere that Isabelle Werth doesn’t sit on the babies as it is too dangerous. I totally get that. My 5 year old threw an epic tantrum because the concept that different parts of my leg mean different things was initially confusing. He cartwheeled across the arena in consternation and I thought I was a goner. He figured it out, and we both survived.

Baby riding and high performance riding are two different skill sets. I don’t begrudge people for buying horses that are solid 3rd level. Especially if they are really going for the team.

I think Laura Graves bought Verdades as a baby because it was what she could afford. Ann Gribbons has brought a few up from zero.

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Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Ha ha, no dyslexia here!

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“Lies, damned lies, and statistics” …

As an applied mathematician, then we speak a common language.

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