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I am planning on crossing Follow Me with a mare that has Donnerhall in her sire’s damline (2nd dam of sire is full sister to Donnerschlag) but who on my mare’s direct damline is strong moving Weltmeyer x G line.
So it would be 4 x 4 x 5 x 5 Donnerhall crosses. Plus as others noted, the nice Furstenball’s seem to be out of strong moving Weltmeyer (or similar) mares.
Edited to add: if I went with Fashion Maker, I would have so much line breeding it would b crazy 4x4x5x5 Donnerhall and 4x4 Weltmeyer, 5x5 Bolero, 5x6 Pik Konig[/QUOTE]
Personally, if they fit phenotypically I wouldn’t be too afraid of this at all. Again, per the Tesio “method” you want to load G’s 4/5 through G’s 7/8 with your line breeding and try to balance so that (about) the same % of, say, Donnerhall is on the sire’s side that is on the dam’s side.
The fact that you are linebreeding to so many different stallions keeps still keeps the genetic diversity…and it seems that just like some Arab stallions (like Bask+++), you really can’t have too much Donnerhall. And if the Furstenball sons are crossing well with Weltmeyers, that’s even better, since you have 2 crosses to him as well.
You should enter the data in Sporthorse Data base and look at the percentages and placement of the various stallions. They do have a “test mating” option, but that doesn’t give you all the cool info. So I just make up a name for the foal and enter it as a “new horse”. All you have to do is put the name of the “foal”, the sire, the dam, the year of birth and the country.
As far as intense linebreeding, a gal sent me this pedigree:
http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?d=Fable+Passionata&sex=f&color=&dog_breed=any&birthyear=&birthland=
This mare was foaled in 2002 and was a kick-ass CT competitor; sound, smart, willing. Short, but of course she is an Arab.
She has 44 crosses to Raffles in G’s 4-9, making her 55.7% Raffles blood…a stallion who was foaled in 1926!!
Since she has all those crosses to Raffles, that means she also has a ton of crosses to Skowronek (both the sire AND the damsire of Raffles).
How many? Try 87 crosses to him in G’s 5-9, including 32 crosses just in G8 alone. So this mare is 45% Skowronek…a stallion who was born in 1909!!
I’m telling you…nobody does linebreeding as intensely as the Arab breeders, but it worked in this case. The mare had no problems mentally or physically and in fact, other that her height (14.2…“normal” for an Arab) she was a fantastic animal.
Stallions like Raffles & Skowronek (and apparently Donnerhall), have no skeletons in their genetic closet, so you don’t have to fret. Like I said, you’d be doing mild stuff compared to many Arabs (and even many TBs).
Honestly, I really wouldn’t worry about a mere 4 crosses to Donnerhall;)
Furstenball has a number of interesting sons now.